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Okay, time to pick you guys brains.....

I have my units on the map. I have a single flag on the map. I have to choose whether it's German or Soviet. I picked German even though this is a Meeting Engagement and neither side actually owns it...why is there not a choice to make objectives neutral at the start of the game???

The game ends at the end of the first turn in a German Minor Victory.

Why is that? The default Bonus turn is set on 30 with an amount of 0 for the bonus. This should be good but the Germans getting the flag at the start of the game seems to stop the game on turn one.

Is this something I'm doing or something the editor and PCK are doing?

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How do you get the date in the Scenario Name? When I try using 6/44 it tells it's an illegal name. Yet all the scenarios start with the date.

ROFL.....I guess it would be easy to find all the HSG scenarios if I start with that instead of the date now wouldn't it?!! [:D]

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MR,

For a meeting engagement it is probably best two have 2 flags one russian one german. That way both sides have something to work for and defend. This effectively boils down to having a neutral flag.

After you have made your scenario press the report button and take a good look at the breakdown. If one side is heavily unbalanced it won't take much for the other side to win it.

You can easily put a date in the name of a scenario but you can't put a "/" in the filename as that is an illegal windows filename character. Try loading up on of the campaign scenarios to see how it is done.

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S.
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MR,

For a meeting engagement it is probably best two have 2 flags one russian one german. That way both sides have something to work for and defend. This effectively boils down to having a neutral flag.

After you have made your scenario press the report button and take a good look at the breakdown. If one side is heavily unbalanced it won't take much for the other side to win it.

You can easily put a date in the name of a scenario but you can't put a "/" in the filename as that is an illegal windows filename character. Try loading up on of the campaign scenarios to see how it is done.

Regards

S.

Well, telling me it's easily done and then not telling me how it's easily done isn't helping all that much.....[X(]

I tried using just 644 in front of the name and that didn't work.

I'll go look at the campaign scenarios and see if I can figure out just how easy it is.

These are the kinds of things that should be in the manual to be honest. The kinds of things that I would expect to find there. Not what I expect to have to go looking on the forums for.

But whatever works. I know the editor isn't really functional in this game and that the next game is where it will come out into it's own.

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MR,

For a meeting engagement it is probably best two have 2 flags one russian one german. That way both sides have something to work for and defend. This effectively boils down to having a neutral flag.

I gave the Russians the flag and it works just fine.

After you have made your scenario press the report button and take a good look at the breakdown. If one side is heavily unbalanced it won't take much for the other side to win it.


Regards

S.

The report shows the Russians have 5 tanks and the Germans 4 transports. The Germans show a 51% to the Soviets 49%. I guess that's good?

In playtesting I have yet to come even close to killing more than 2 Puma's in combat. The Germans are very easy to win with.

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When I open the Campaign editor there are no dates in front of the file names there either. They are the same exact files in fact that are in the battle editor with the same file names as well.

I still have no clue how to get the date in the name.

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MR,

Upload your scenario and I will take a look at it.

The filename is not used in PCK or the editor. It is only for the OS. The name field is what gets displayed (and can have a date) in the Set battle menu.

I will take a look again at mouse zooming under IE6 there may be some other bug?

Start the editor and open the scenario "Kharkov-Ger-L1-Schwerpunkt". This is the first german scenario of the german campaign.

Notice in the Name field it says "5/42 Schwerpunkt!" (at the top) but the filename at the bottom is called "Kharkov-Ger-L1-Schwerpunkt" (no "/" allowed in the bottom field but ok in the top field). Does that help?
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These are the kinds of things that should be in the manual to be honest. The kinds of things that I would expect to find there. Not what I expect to have to go looking on the forums for.

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Page 73 of the manual which describes victory conditions may help explain why your game is ending early.

Please do post your scenario and I will take a look at it and see what I can see.
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MR,

Upload your scenario and I will take a look at it.

The filename is not used in PCK or the editor. It is only for the OS. The name field is what gets displayed (and can have a date) in the Set battle menu.

I will take a look again at mouse zooming under IE6 there may be some other bug?

Start the editor and open the scenario "Kharkov-Ger-L1-Schwerpunkt". This is the first german scenario of the german campaign.

Notice in the Name field it says "5/42 Schwerpunkt!" (at the top) but the filename at the bottom is called "Kharkov-Ger-L1-Schwerpunkt" (no "/" allowed in the bottom field but ok in the top field). Does that help?


Stridor - yes apparently this is an IE6 issue - when a unit is selected in the OOB list in the edit pane, the scroll wheel doesn't work on the map. I just tried it on my laptop which is IE7 and it doesn't have this issue, my desktop , which is IE6 does have the issue. But in any case - once you know that this is the problem - it's easy to simply click on the breifing button couple of times. I don't know that it's worth a lot of time trying to fix unless it's very simple fix.

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I just checked under IE6. The ability to save a scenario name with a date prefix works as intended and as is documented on page 113 of the manual.

However there is a bug (IE6 known bug) where selection boxes will not give up the focus. This was fixed in IE7 and is something that I will need to work around for those people who wish to stay with IE6.

As a temp measure bring up the specs box and dismiss it and you will have mouse wheel zoom back again.

I will look into a fix for this issue.

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Rick you posted as I was typing [:D]
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MR,

I have posted a hotfix for your mousewheel issues here http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1794755
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MR,

I have posted a hotfix for your mousewheel issues here http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1794755

Well - that was fast -

Tried it out and it solved the problem! Thanks. (Of course I didnt do much else - ).

Thanks Stridor
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MR,

Upload your scenario and I will take a look at it.

The filename is not used in PCK or the editor. It is only for the OS. The name field is what gets displayed (and can have a date) in the Set battle menu.

I will take a look again at mouse zooming under IE6 there may be some other bug?

Start the editor and open the scenario "Kharkov-Ger-L1-Schwerpunkt". This is the first german scenario of the german campaign.

Notice in the Name field it says "5/42 Schwerpunkt!" (at the top) but the filename at the bottom is called "Kharkov-Ger-L1-Schwerpunkt" (no "/" allowed in the bottom field but ok in the top field). Does that help?

No, it doesn't.

I have the manual. I've read it cover to cover about 3 times now.

I see where it talks about how all the scenarios/campaigns start with a file date and how you can't use some keys. What it doesn't tell me, and I haven't gotten across to you yet, is HOW do I name the file that it will display the date first?

What is a real file name that displays the date? Give me an example of one. I've tried "6/44 Kharkov" that doesn't work, it doesn't like the "/". Okay. So then I tried "644 Kharkov" that doesn't work either. It simply displayed the scenario as "Kharkov" when I did it that way.

It appears to me that the scenario display is taking the date from somewhere besides the file name and displaying that first in the display string.

But from where?

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Page 73 of the manual which describes victory conditions may help explain why your game is ending early.

Please do post your scenario and I will take a look at it and see what I can see.

That's okay. I never put my scenarios on the internet until I'm happy with them. Besides this is much more about learning the editor than it is doing the actual scenario.

Just how easy the editor is for the average gamer to use.

Outside of the zoom issue with the map and the file name displaying correctly it's pretty easy.

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Double Post.

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These are the kinds of things that should be in the manual to be honest. The kinds of things that I would expect to find there. Not what I expect to have to go looking on the forums for.

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Thanks for screen shot. That shows exactly what I'm talking about. Mentioning what shouldn't be done but nothing about how to actually do it.

Give me one example of a file name Stridor and I'll work it out from there.

BTW, thanks for all your patience with the new guy on the block.

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What is a real file name that displays the date? Give me an example of one. I've tried "6/44 Kharkov" that doesn't work, it doesn't like the "/". Okay. So then I tried "644 Kharkov" that doesn't work either. It simply displayed the scenario as "Kharkov" when I did it that way.
It appears to me that the scenario display is taking the date from somewhere besides the file name and displaying that first in the display string.

That's what Stridor's been trying to explain. The scenario name displayed in the in-game list is in a separate field from the Windows filename. Windows will not allow "/" characters in a filename. They will however work fine in the in-game display name. Load up one of the existing scenarios and you should see how the file name and scenario name are in different fields.

In Post #8 above, Stridor highlighted the exact field to use for the display name. The filename field is at the bottom of the editor display, the display name is near the top.

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