suicide titans

Xizarus · Post by **Xizarus** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 7:37 am

Anybody else build kamakazi titans? I've found that if I can get an assault to overheat and explode in the middle of a group, the results can be pretty interesting...It may be the only thing that will work against a swarm...

IKerensky · Post by **IKerensky** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 7:54 am

Blowing my own titan on purpose???

HUmthe closest thin I can relate is my knight design, who's job was to charge and make explode the lightest ennemy mach in the mobs... I know that that is the job of every AT, but the knight was designed to survive the explosion <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

Also kamikazing an Assault seems a bit of an overkill. Not to mentionthe pain in the ass to get it in middle of the foes and far from yours other AT.

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 8:30 am

"IF" is a very big if, and you'd need to get close enough without being blown up along the way. In order to attain that quick blow up, you'd need a really bad heat reg, and 5 TBs. You'd have to jack up your heat to just below 150, and then fire all 5 TBs. Dangerous, but it could work.

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 10:06 am

You also need to not have a dcs and your pilot must suck at damage control... explosions have an automatic roll, something between 50~98%.

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 10:53 am

Engines automatically explodes at 300 heat. The DCS and damage control skill only kick in if the engine is shot out.

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Mon Oct 22, 2001 2:57 pm

Well, got bored so I made the titan and tested it out. It's okay, but it does more damage from alpha-striking than from the engine exploding. <img src="frown.gif" border="0">

Pure Suicide

Here are the stats. It's designed to get there relatively in one piece.

Titan Name: Death Wish (Assault Close Combat Titan)
Chassis: Mark MK-A2
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Weight: 200.0t (200t maximum) Height : 18 [meter]
Bmt : 36 (33 kph) Reduce Heat: -2.2C/sec.
Jmt : 12 (100 kph) for 37 secs Cost : 499097 ($)

Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine :Mark MK-X [Engine A] [RT ]
Heatreg. <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0"> elinit H4 [Heat 4]
Flare :FL Small [Flare1] [Head]
Shield :Surko Ensure [Shld6] [CBT ]
LifeSup.:Bisvo Inc. [Life 6] [Head]
Scanner :CyberSys S [Scan 1] [CT ]
Computer:Mark BC-X [Comp. 6] [LT ]
JumpPort:Mark MJ-I [Jump 6]

Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/SL

[RA ] TESLA BOLT
[LA ] TESLA BOLT
[LT ] TESLA BOLT
[CT ] TESLA BOLT
[RA ] LARGE LASER
[LA ] LARGE LASER

Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Points/mm

[Head] (13) Dullaroy 025 [036mm]
[RT ] (27) Dullaroy 066 [095mm]
[CT ] (27) Dullaroy 069 [099mm]
[CBT ] (17) Dullaroy 039 [057mm]
[LT ] (27) Dullaroy 066 [095mm]
[RA ] (27) Vicenium 054 [090mm]
[LA ] (27) Vicenium 054 [090mm]
[LowT] (15) Vicenium 060 [101mm]
[RL ] (23) Dullaroy 070 [101mm]
[LL ] (23) Dullaroy 070 [101mm]

Armorindex: 4.00 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 226 [APts]
External: 573 [APts] Max:[101mm]
Total Armor: 799 [APts]

JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: skill on Assault Titan incl. Jump
Weapons : Energy
Warfare : Defensives Scanner
Skills : Recon

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Tue Oct 23, 2001 3:45 pm

Originally posted by Lyhrrus:
Engines automatically explodes at 300 heat. The DCS and damage control skill only kick in if the engine is shot out.

Well, the manual reads:
300+ C : *Possible* titan explosion...

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:05 pm

Try it for yourself. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:33 pm

Hmm, and how can I do that? I don't know the code for those situations. You can't tell if the titan is exploding cause it does at 300 C or because you failed a roll. Or if the roll is made every 5 or 10 secs. Don't know if you are aware, but when a titan explodes a jock *can* survive, though it is extremely rare. It's probably one of those 2% chances. What exactly tells you that this is not one of those situations?! If the manual states *possible*, I'll go with the manual until Larkin says otherwise. The manual has had mistakes in the past, and it probably still has. But only the code can tell.

LarkinVB · Post by **LarkinVB** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:28 pm

At 300C an engine explosion is 100% possible <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 3:31 pm

Ok then, maybe the manual should be changed. Along with Bernd's suggestions. Will work on it right away.

Lyhrrus · Post by **Lyhrrus** » Wed Oct 24, 2001 10:18 pm

*chuckle* If you tried it for yourself, you would have seen that the engine explodes exactly after you end your turn above 300 heat. <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Thorgrim · Post by **Thorgrim** » Thu Oct 25, 2001 1:27 pm

As I said, how can you be 100% sure? Have you tried 100 times? Larkin has this habit of always having a 2% chance of *anything* happening/not happening, I've seen this in practically *everything* in the game, that's why I wouldn't go for the immediate explosion.