Stacking limits and base building questions...

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Stacking limits and base building questions...

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Hi all,

I know that there is "WitP-AE Land" subgroup thread but I thought that this can still be asked here in main WitP-AE forum... [:)]


Although there was talk about this before (I participated as well) I don't recall that there were definitive answers and therefore the two questions:


#1 Stacking limits for HEX/base

Will there be definitive stacking limits for land units in certain HEX/base?

If stacking limit exists how is that altering combat and HEX/base fortification/building?


#2 Base building speed

Several years ago (yes it really was that long ago! [:D]) I made rather extensive tests with base speed building in WitP and I posted results to WitP forum.

In those tests I showed that base building (if you stack enough ENG units) can be much much more accelerated than what actually happened in WWII (I used Mariana base for B-29 for my test example).

Even with all WitP patching afterwards this was never altered.

So... will this be addressed in WitP-AE?



Thanks in advance!



Leo "Apollo11"


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I changed the subject line for better "visibility"... [;)]
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Hi all,

I know that there is "WitP-AE Land" subgroup thread but I thought that this can still be asked here in main WitP-AE forum... [:)]


Although there was talk about this before (I participated as well) I don't recall that there were definitive answers and therefore the two questions:


#1 Stacking limits for HEX/base

Will there be definitive stacking limits for land units in certain HEX/base?
Yes
If stacking limit exists how is that altering combat and HEX/base fortification/building?
still in testing...
#2 Base building speed

Several years ago (yes it really was that long ago! [:D]) I made rather extensive tests with base speed building in WitP and I posted results to WitP forum.

In those tests I showed that base building (if you stack enough ENG units) can be much much more accelerated than what actually happened in WWII (I used Mariana base for B-29 for my test example).

Even with all WitP patching afterwards this was never altered.

So... will this be addressed in WitP-AE?

yes
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Hi all,

Thanks for info!

We will all keep our collective fingers crossed... [:)] [&o][&o][&o]


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The stacking limit might be a problem for the allies when they are staging on small islands for offensives.  Thoughts??
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ORIGINAL: Raverdave

The stacking limit might be a problem for the allies when they are staging on small islands for offensives.  Thoughts??

Might be... but very small places were not used for bg staging bases in history so I think that is OK... [:)]

BTW, my biggest hope/wish for stacking limit is that it would eliminate the "Sea Train of Death" for both sides where overwhelming force (first for the Japanese in 1941/1942 and then for the Allies after 1942) is simply riding across the sea and disembarking, killing all oposition with sheer size and embarking again and continuing to anothe target!


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Hi all,
ORIGINAL: Raverdave

The stacking limit might be a problem for the allies when they are staging on small islands for offensives. Thoughts??

Might be... but very small places were not used for bg staging bases in history so I think that is OK... [:)]

BTW, my biggest hope/wish for stacking limit is that it would eliminate the "Sea Train of Death" for both sides where overwhelming force (first for the Japanese in 1941/1942 and then for the Allies after 1942) is simply riding across the sea and disembarking, killing all oposition with sheer size and embarking again and continuing to anothe target!


Leo "Apollo11"

LOL...with the new load rates - be careful where you disembark - if you plan on re-embarking.
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Hi all,
ORIGINAL: treespider
ORIGINAL: Apollo11
ORIGINAL: Raverdave

The stacking limit might be a problem for the allies when they are staging on small islands for offensives. Thoughts??

Might be... but very small places were not used for bg staging bases in history so I think that is OK... [:)]

BTW, my biggest hope/wish for stacking limit is that it would eliminate the "Sea Train of Death" for both sides where overwhelming force (first for the Japanese in 1941/1942 and then for the Allies after 1942) is simply riding across the sea and disembarking, killing all oposition with sheer size and embarking again and continuing to anothe target!

LOL...with the new load rates - be careful where you disembark - if you plan on re-embarking.

Another great news - thanks! [:)][&o][&o][&o]


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I think that for mariana landings, staging points for units were Guadalcanal, Fiji and Pearl Harbor. LVTs were carried on ships sailing from US West coast.
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Its isnt going to be "drop / attack / load" anymore either. The process will take a lot longer. You can do the drop and attack part, but then there is a 1 to 3 day waiting period for the unit to pack up before they can even begin loading again.
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ORIGINAL: Barb

I think that for mariana landings, staging points for units were Guadalcanal, Fiji and Pearl Harbor. LVTs were carried on ships sailing from US West coast.

And this is a problem with WITP in that the LCIs, etc have to carry the troops all the way from the staging base. Our soldiers didn't travel across the Pacific in the little landing craft, they only got aboard in the final landing approach...
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