joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
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joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
VS and I will try to play through the short version of the NJ1 scenario.
VS will play the Axis - he is one of the most knowledgeable Axis gamers!
and I will play the Allied this time.
This is the first of three night scenarios and starts on the 21st of August 1941.
This scenario plays during the time of the destruction of Hamburg.
The Allied score triple for each terror target and normal for every other targets.
VS will play the Axis - he is one of the most knowledgeable Axis gamers!
and I will play the Allied this time.
This is the first of three night scenarios and starts on the 21st of August 1941.
This scenario plays during the time of the destruction of Hamburg.
The Allied score triple for each terror target and normal for every other targets.
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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
Because this will be a joint AAR, I will not discuss any future plans, but I will try to give a glimpse into the Allied side.
I will try to discuss past missions, and explain, why the Allied C in C is such an incompetent fool [X(]
In the NJ1 scenario BC is quite weak - there are still many Sterling and Wellington bombers used. There are not as many NIs as in the full campaign, because only BC is used.
Sterling bombers can carry a nice load, but lack altitude and are therefore any easy target for large AA concentrations.
The Wellington is a good and sturdy aircraft, but it is past its prime.
The Halifax II and Lancaster I will have to carry the main tasks, but I have to be careful. I do not have an unlimited stock of those.
Mosquito bombers have a nice aid -Oboe -, and can mark targets as pathfinders close to the homeland ( Oboe has a limited range from the closest Allied A/F).
There are even a few Lancaster IIIs, all of them pathfindercapable.....maybe I will use them for pinpoint attacks.
The helping force are 2 Wellington and one Mosquito RCM units as well as a few nightfighter units ( MosquitoII and Beaufighters)
here a look at the campaign information at the game start:

I will try to discuss past missions, and explain, why the Allied C in C is such an incompetent fool [X(]
In the NJ1 scenario BC is quite weak - there are still many Sterling and Wellington bombers used. There are not as many NIs as in the full campaign, because only BC is used.
Sterling bombers can carry a nice load, but lack altitude and are therefore any easy target for large AA concentrations.
The Wellington is a good and sturdy aircraft, but it is past its prime.
The Halifax II and Lancaster I will have to carry the main tasks, but I have to be careful. I do not have an unlimited stock of those.
Mosquito bombers have a nice aid -Oboe -, and can mark targets as pathfinders close to the homeland ( Oboe has a limited range from the closest Allied A/F).
There are even a few Lancaster IIIs, all of them pathfindercapable.....maybe I will use them for pinpoint attacks.
The helping force are 2 Wellington and one Mosquito RCM units as well as a few nightfighter units ( MosquitoII and Beaufighters)
here a look at the campaign information at the game start:

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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
The main strength of BC during this time will be the use of windows - and the Germans will have to adapt to the failure of their radar.
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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
ORIGINAL: swift
VS will play the Axis - he is one of the most knowledgeable Axis gamers!
Duh, but he still manages to send Werner the wrong file!
22Aug43 Axis
Bomber Command sends out multiple raids against area/rail targets. Since the introduction of their Duppel (Window) during the Hamburg raid last month most of the Nachtjäger force has been rendered impotent. All together we only manage to bring down 15 British bombers and of these only 7 are claimed by fighters. FuG 202 equipped a/c fail to get any sensor detections due to interference caused by window. FuG 212 a/c get two contacts but neither leads to an interception. It appears our a/c must rely on search lights and the fires of our burning cities to pick out enemy a/c. We can only hope that sensors in development allow us to overcome the severe restrictions imposed by window. Himmelbett is obsolete, we must chase the bombers to their targets and rely on our eyes!
Per Speculationem Impellor ad Intelligendum
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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
for turn 1 I used all A/C for a maximum effort turn.
I attack several different targets and used many NIs in streams and as patrols.
here is the raid list ( sorted for bomb raids)

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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
here are the fly paths of Northern Germany


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
and central Germany


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
the campaign information after turn 1


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
and the AAR of the raids:


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
you can see that my losses were in the raids against coastal towns ( Cuxhaven and Bremerhaven), which are not only protected by the typical Luftwaffe Flak units, but also by German Navy AA guns.
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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
and here my A/C losses:


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
for turn 2 there will be less action,
I forgot to move some units before the first turn.
Also several units are low on morale and others are tired.
I forgot to move some units before the first turn.
Also several units are low on morale and others are tired.
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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
turn 2 only sees one weak raid to Lingen, and a few NIs to known NF bases


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
here the flypaths.
you can see that the additional waypoints can help creating a better path through enemy territory, or to confuse the opponent

you can see that the additional waypoints can help creating a better path through enemy territory, or to confuse the opponent

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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
VS keeps his forces still grounded [8D]
he is probably waiting for an deep inland strike.

he is probably waiting for an deep inland strike.

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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
it looks like the raid against the small town of Lingen did some damage


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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
planning for turn 3.
NO MISSIONS, all A/C are grounded because of the amount of low clouds.
I would attack the enemy, as long only Germany is clouded, but I am not risking a bunch of landing accidents in this foggy weather.

NO MISSIONS, all A/C are grounded because of the amount of low clouds.
I would attack the enemy, as long only Germany is clouded, but I am not risking a bunch of landing accidents in this foggy weather.

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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
ORIGINAL: swift
The main strength of BC during this time will be the use of windows - and the Germans will have to adapt to the failure of their radar.
[:D][:D] I know you mean Window, obviously, but still... That BC should have an advantage by using Windows...[:D][:D]
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RE: joint AAR Nachtjagd 1 - VonShagmeister vs swift
Term, you not seen Swift play, he means Windows, even Vista
I would like to see the house rules he came up with, I feel sorry for Shaggy (except, I know Shaggy is pretty swift himself

I would like to see the house rules he came up with, I feel sorry for Shaggy (except, I know Shaggy is pretty swift himself




