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Is there still interest in this game? A year ago I bought this game and after trying it I realized I was going to need some more time to figure it out. I have a little more time to give to it now and was wondering if I figure it out is there still an active group to play against. I am not a big fan of playing against AI's as playing against people is what I find truly exciting.
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Welcome aboard!
I´m sure you will find PBEM opponents with out any problem!
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Hi there Spadman

Yeah, there's a good deal of interest still in this game.
Playing against the AI is OK but it gets a bit predicatable after a time
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There seems to have been an increase in people in the forums in recent months. I agree that when you are ready for a game, you should have no problem finding a player.
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Is there still interest in this game? A year ago I bought this game and after trying it I realized I was going to need some more time to figure it out. I have a little more time to give to it now and was wondering if I figure it out is there still an active group to play against. I am not a big fan of playing against AI's as playing against people is what I find truly exciting.
Thanks for any answers.
Mike

Yes there is interest. Look in the AAR section.
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The interest in UV seems to ebb & flow.  The old vets seem migrate to WITP eventually as they look for something more and then there's always an influx of new blood to keep things going.  Considering that the game was released in 2002 it's done rather well.
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agree todd. for such a old game, Uv is doing well. i have 3 PBEm games running at the moment and must say, that i got more for my bucks when playing Uv then in most of the other games.
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The interest in UV seems to ebb & flow. The old vets seem migrate to WITP eventually as they look for something more and then there's always an influx of new blood to keep things going. Considering that the game was released in 2002 it's done rather well.

I´m not sure how many people are going to be around for WITP AE though. To take WITP at 60 miles per hex and change it to 30 miles per hex seems like insanity to me.

As enormous as WITP map is and then to DOUBLE that! Take all the division units and break them up into the regiments and support troops...the grand campaign will be unplayable for all but a very, very, few.

That´s too much.

Hopefully it will have the UV scenarios included. That alone will make it worth the purchase.
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Well, the hex size will only be 40 miles per hex. But, if you change the hex size from 60 to 30 you do not double the map size, you quadruple it.
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ORIGINAL: Ike99
The interest in UV seems to ebb & flow. The old vets seem migrate to WITP eventually as they look for something more and then there's always an influx of new blood to keep things going. Considering that the game was released in 2002 it's done rather well.

I´m not sure how many people are going to be around for WITP AE though. To take WITP at 60 miles per hex and change it to 30 miles per hex seems like insanity to me.

As enormous as WITP map is and then to DOUBLE that! Take all the division units and break them up into the regiments and support troops...the grand campaign will be unplayable for all but a very, very, few.

That´s too much.

Hopefully it will have the UV scenarios included. That alone will make it worth the purchase.

I agree. All Matrix really needed to do with WITP was sort out the obvious problems once and for all, instead they are going to add on 200 types of ship damage and 10000 ship types that no one gives a toss about.

The reason for the delay in releasing it is AI problems. The greatest programmer in the world could not make a workable AI that has to to consider a million variables each turn.

Why not just get the basics right and release it as a PBEM only game???
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Well, the hex size will only be 40 miles per hex. But, if you change the hex size from 60 to 30 you do not double the map size, you quadruple it.

OK, 40 miles per hex. Still, that´s insane. It should have many, many, many theatre scenarios or forget it.
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But, if you change the hex size from 60 to 30 you do not double the map size, you quadruple it.

Nonsense to make a game so huge.
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Why not just get the basics right and release it as a PBEM only game???

The only people who will be able to play the grand campaign because of time is people retired and half of them would be dead first before they could complete the entire campaign.

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There will be another game out there now that is not "quite" as good as it can be? Imagine that.  As for the map in WiTP, I guess if you have  42" TV you can hook your computer up to it will be more workable. Guess that leaves me out
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There will be another game out there now that is not "quite" as good as it can be? Imagine that. As for the map in WiTP, I guess if you have 42" TV you can hook your computer up to it will be more workable. Guess that leaves me out

Forty seconds to scroll from one side of the map to the other!!

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On a laptop, forget it!

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Wow, I am really surprised at the amount of people still in this game. This must also be a testament to how fun the game is. I am working through the manual and tutorial once again and will let you all know once I am ready for a PBEM game.
BTW, I would doubt I would move on to WITP as this is probably as deep as I care to go in a "game". I hear you have to get your doctorate in wargaming to get into that game.
Thanks for all the replies.
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I guess it's a choice 5-6 UV games going with time left over, or 1 WiTP   [X(]
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I guess it's a choice 5-6 UV games going with time left over, or 1 WiTP   [X(]


Not really. I have 3 UV PBEM games going and still find time to keep a solitaire learning game of WitP going, although not with a rate of progress that would be expected of a PBEM committment.
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ORIGINAL: Ike99
But, if you change the hex size from 60 to 30 you do not double the map size, you quadruple it.

Nonsense to make a game so huge.

agree, ike. thats why imho most of the WITP players will still play their PBEM games with WITP instead of AE. AE is simply too big and too complicated.
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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

ORIGINAL: Ike99
But, if you change the hex size from 60 to 30 you do not double the map size, you quadruple it.

Nonsense to make a game so huge.

agree, ike. thats why imho most of the WITP players will still play their PBEM games with WITP instead of AE. AE is simply too big and too complicated.

I disagree. Personally, I can't wait for AE to come out. 3 of my 4 WITP PBEM opponents have already agreed that once AE comes out we are going to restart a game with AE. The WITP games we are dropping are games that we already have 3-4 years invested in. The joy for us isn't getting to the destination (end of the game), it is the trip to get there.

The way I see it is that my opponents and I average about 3-5 turns a week. That means that WITP will take us about 12 years to complete. With AE, the turns may take a little longer to do, but the turn around rate should stay pretty much the same....therefore, AE will take just as long to complete as WITP.
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