withdraw order

[invernomuto]

Hi, I've just observed that I could withdraw a single tank during the reaction phase without ordering a general withdraw to my tank platoon (so for example if I have three t34, during reaction I could issue a withdrawal order to one and a fire order to the other two).
In this case, for the soviet, there's no delay in order execution.
I cannot do the same in the order phase. During order phase I have to issue the withdraw order to the platoon commander (so all the tanks of the platoon must withdraw), AND there is a delay in order execution (the order is actually executed in the next phase). That is simply illogical to me.

Bye

[Mobius]

The Withdraw order is for an unlimited distance. The withdraw reaction is meant to get a vehicle out of immediate danger and is only about 50m or 100m. So there is a difference.

[spellir74]

ORIGINAL: invernomuto

Hi, I've just observed that I could withdraw a single tank during the reaction phase without ordering a general withdraw to my tank platoon (so for example if I have three t34, during reaction I could issue a withdrawal order to one and a fire order to the other two).
In this case, for the soviet, there's no delay in order execution.
I cannot do the same in the order phase. During order phase I have to issue the withdraw order to the platoon commander (so all the tanks of the platoon must withdraw),


AND there is a delay in order execution (the order is actually executed in the next phase). That is simply illogical to me.

Bye

I have sometimes seen a delay when I give a _rush-ing_ Inf sqd a fire smoke command in the _reaction phase_: it doesn't carry it out until order phase. But if I order a withdrawal in the order phase they will all withdraw during that phase.

I have not seen the withdraw delay though. Are you sure?

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As far as its illogic, the _game_ does do gamey things. Think of it like like chess being illogical. I guess that doesn't help your concern though.

[spellir74]

Uh... I see through forum surfing that the Russians do have an order delay for withdraw, representing apparently their lack of radios.

[invernomuto]

ORIGINAL: Mobius

The Withdraw order is for an unlimited distance. The withdraw reaction is meant to get a vehicle out of immediate danger and is only about 50m or 100m. So there is a difference.

Ok, but what i found to be illogical is the delay time for the russian, at least for withdraw in the order phase.
For the russian player is a useless order if I need to wait 40 seconds (next phase) to withdraw, i can simply use withdraw reacton in the reaction phase (which has no delay!), it's the same result.

So IMHO a reduction in the withdraw delay execution for the soviet side is needed (at least the same as defend order, 20 secs).

[Mobius]

You don't have a delay right away for a Soviet Reaction withdraw.  You can withdraw a short distance.   However, you will still pay a delay should the unit continue to withdraw the following orders phase or do anything else.  So you don't get a free withdraw without any delay.   The delay is just delayed [;)] one phase.