Opinion needed

[czerpak]

Hi grognards and greenies,
as I informed you earlier I work on getting WiR into Blitz Wargaming Club. Most things are sorted out, but there are some doubts about size modifiers for scenarios and campaigns. To explainthis shortly : players in Blitz get points for completing PBEMs. Obviously there is more points for winner, less for draws and for losers. But there is also another factor included, which is size modifier for scnario/campaign. Lets say there is 5 points for a win for basic scenario ( e.g. Uranos, Bagration) It is obvious that players should get more points for longer games e.g. 1941 campaign. Now the question is : should size modifiers depend on maximum lenght of scenario/campaign or depend on number of turns being actually played. It comes from a fact that long campaign can be finished after 50 turns, lets say. In this case should players be awarded points as for 4 years campaign or number of points the same like for 1944 campaign ?
I hope it is clear enough, right Rick ?
Take part in poll and give opinions in this thread please. It wont be easy to change anything once it is set up.
Maciej

[davewolf]

Originally posted by czerpak
Now the question is : should size modifiers depend on maximum lenght of scenario/campaign or depend on number of turns being actually played. It comes from a fact that long campaign can be finished after 50 turns, lets say. In this case should players be awarded points as for 4 years campaign or number of points the same like for 1944 campaign ?

My opinion: The max. lenght of scen./camp. should count. Because the number of played turns doesn't show if a player did a good job. If two players are equally bad (like me i.e.) they could play (almost) forever and the winner would get many points. Not good IMO.

BTW thanks for setting up at the Blitz Wargaming Club, Maciej. It will surely enhance our excitement even more.

Dave

[RickyB]

Maciej,

Your explanation made sense to me. I would vote for full points, whether the turns are all played out or not. However, I would weight the points for a long campaign slightly lower per turn, as there is a good chance that unless a draw is achieved the game will end before the last few turns. Good job.

[czerpak]

Originally posted by davewolf


My opinion: The max. lenght of scen./camp. should count. Because the number of played turns doesn't show if a player did a good job. If two players are equally bad (like me i.e.) they could play (almost) forever and the winner would get many points. Not good IMO.

BTW thanks for setting up at the Blitz Wargaming Club, Maciej. It will surely enhance our excitement even more.

Dave

Dave,
when we get our baby listed at Blitz, I will ask you to add a link to their page. It seems now, that they are willing to do the same for your page.
BTW I think I have at least as much fun working with Blitz as you have with your page

Maciej

[czerpak]

Originally posted by RickyB
Maciej,

However, I would weight the points for a long campaign slightly lower per turn, as there is a good chance that unless a draw is achieved the game will end before the last few turns.

Rick,
it makes sense, but short scenarios cover only half a map, no playing with production and West and Italy. So IMHO this would make a balance.
Maciej

[davewolf]

Originally posted by czerpak
Dave,
when we get our baby listed at Blitz, I will ask you to add a link to their page.

Maciej,
of course I'll add a link as soon as the new section will be online.

BTW I think I have at least as much fun working with Blitz as you have with your page

BTW there weren't any updates at my site the last two weeks because I'm currently working on a new design. (One is never satisfied... ) Don't think it's sleeping, I'm just a bit busy.

Dave

P.S. You mentioned you're from Czerkasy. Does it mean you were born there or did you live there for a longer time?

[czerpak]

Originally posted by davewolf



P.S. You mentioned you're from Czerkasy. Does it mean you were born there or did you live there for a longer time?

It is a long family story, but I'll try to keep it short :
my grandma was Polish born in Ukraine ( these lands for a long time belonged to Poland), she married a guy named Czerkas ( she doesnt want to tell much about him, but from what she said I reckon he was from a rich family, some aristocrats, who somehow survived revolution, I guess). He was killed ( again dont know if by Stalin or by Germans) shortly after marriage. Grandma was left with a child (my father). When war finished, grandma was lucky enough to move to Poznan in Poland, where my family live up till now. I still have some relatives in Ukraine, Russia and Byelorusia, but never been there myself.
The word Czerkas (-y) itself comes from a small nation called Czerkies (Cherkies).
Unfortunately I never found enough time to dig deeper into my family history.
So we are Poles origin from that region.
Is this enough ? I dont want you to get bored
Maciej

[davewolf]

Originally posted by czerpak
It is a long family story, but I'll try to keep it short :
my grandma was Polish born in Ukraine ( these lands for a long time belonged to Poland), she married a guy named Czerkas ( she doesnt want to tell much about him, but from what she said I reckon he was from a rich family, some aristocrats, who somehow survived revolution, I guess). He was killed ( again dont know if by Stalin or by Germans) shortly after marriage. Grandma was left with a child (my father). When war finished, grandma was lucky enough to move to Poznan in Poland, where my family live up till now. I still have some relatives in Ukraine, Russia and Byelorusia, but never been there myself.
The word Czerkas (-y) itself comes from a small nation called Czerkies (Cherkies).
Unfortunately I never found enough time to dig deeper into my family history.
So we are Poles origin from that region.
Is this enough ? I dont want you to get bored

Maciej

You don't bore me at all. I like family histories. Only three generations usually present the whole human adventure, the tragedies and comedies of life.
My mom is from Slovenia. And even though I'm born in Germany and always lived there, there's always a trace of unsureness regarding where my home is. Maybe therefore I'm thinking about emigrating for some time now. Do you feel anything like this too?

Dave

[czerpak]

Originally posted by davewolf


Maciej

You don't bore me at all. I like family histories. Only three generations usually present the whole human adventure, the tragedies and comedies of life.
My mom is from Slovenia. And even though I'm born in Germany and always lived there, there's always a trace of unsureness regarding where my home is. Maybe therefore I'm thinking about emigrating for some time now. Do you feel anything like this too?

Dave

Dave,
it is simple. I have no doubt who am I, but I could live almost anywhere in this world. I was born in Poznan and live here for over 30 years now, but :
I lived in Netherlands for half a year, spend over a year in Romania sometime in the past, my brother currently lives in Bielefeld and is thinking right now where to move ( options are Ireland, Japan, US and maybe some more...), I have also family in Russia, Ukraine, Byelorussia, Argentina, very good american friend of mine sends invitations from New Zealand, but closest options are Spain and Austria. So I am not sticked to my country, but now settled here a bit more with wife and 2,5 years old daughter. Right now I'm in process of deciding if invest money here or go somewhere else. Havent decided yet, odds are 50/50.
Where would you emigrate, if so ?
Maciej

[czerpak]

OK guys,
my opinion is exactly the same like results in poll show.
No argues, so I pass this opinion to Blitz. Finally they will decide.
Thanks for opinions and voting
Maciej

[davewolf]

Originally posted by czerpak


Dave,
it is simple. I have no doubt who am I, but I could live almost anywhere in this world. I was born in Poznan and live here for over 30 years now, but :
I lived in Netherlands for half a year, spend over a year in Romania sometime in the past, my brother currently lives in Bielefeld and is thinking right now where to move ( options are Ireland, Japan, US and maybe some more...), I have also family in Russia, Ukraine, Byelorussia, Argentina, very good american friend of mine sends invitations from New Zealand, but closest options are Spain and Austria. So I am not sticked to my country, but now settled here a bit more with wife and 2,5 years old daughter. Right now I'm in process of deciding if invest money here or go somewhere else. Havent decided yet, odds are 50/50.

Maciej

This world is a village...

Where would you emigrate, if so ?

Central europe is too crowded for my taste. I'm a nature freak. But on the other hand I want to stay in europe and to be able to meet my friends regularly. So maybe Norway, Scotland or Ireland. Till now these are only thoughts. But I have the feeling that they will become very concrete some day.
Dave