OSTFRONT AAR Bwheatley vs arabullian

[bwheatley]

We're going to give ostfront a try lets see how it goes

[bwheatley]

wow first impression..holy shit i lost 1349 infantry units holy holy holy shit

[sapper32]

Ouch sounds like u got ur butt kicked there [:D]

[british exil]

Who is playing which side?

@ bwheatly:
I hope you are playing the SU.

[Captain Cruft]

Good luck guys and have fun [:)]

[Captain Cruft]

P.S.

I am really looking forward to this. If you have any questions at all just ask here.

[bwheatley]

i'm playing as the soviets

@cruft why are the soviets getting reinforcements as RIFLE 41 i see the unit type SO RIFLE 41? ALso RIFLE 41 is using a sprite instead of defaulting to the default icon so (in my case nato icons) so its very odd looking atm i will have to try to fix. It will drive me crazy if i dont.

[Captain Cruft]

The scenario is designed to be used with the default graphics set, alongside the bespoke stuff in the graphics\ostfront folder. Any other configuration will likely produce funnies such as you describe.

soviets getting reinforcements as RIFLE 41 i see the unit type SO RIFLE 41

Sorry I'm not sure what this means. Can you expand and/or show a screenshot please?

[Captain Cruft]

Actually ...

I see what you mean now.

The SFType is called "Rifle 41"
The ItemType is called "SO Rifle 41"

If you set a factory to produce "SO Rifle 41" then "Rifle 41" will be the output.

All producable items have a two letter country code at the start, but the actual SFTypes do not.

[bwheatley]

well i mean you have a sftype RIFLE 41 (sftype #25) which is whats being used in the predefined units you make. And then you have RO Rifle 41 SFType (#5)

just wondering if that was an oversight? LOL the graphics for RO rifle are proper the graphics for rifle 41 are not

[Captain Cruft]

No oversight. Those two SFTypes are completely different. There is also a HU Rifle 41, an SL Rifle 41, a CR Rifle 41 and an SP Rifle 41. It's a naming convention which comes from SPWaW.

As to the graphic issue, all I can suggest is that you:

a) re-install the ostfront graphics into the ostfront folder
b) try temporarily re-installing the default graphics into the default folder, making a backup of what is there first

The problem is that with the SFType symbols you can't see which file it's picking up in the editor. So the only way for me to "fix" this would be to go through all the SFTypes and reset them to use the graphics in the ostfront folder. This would take some time, and you'd then have to then re-download and restart.

[bwheatley]

Well i see what you're saying but in your predefined units that soviets get as reinforcements Predef # 39 SO RIFLE DIV 41. It's using SFTYPE RIFLE 41 instead of SO RIFLE 41. I can't see the SO RIFLE 41 being used anywhere. Sorry just curious it's not really a biggie i just noticed it when i was going in to try to see why axis units were using proper counters and the soviet rifle units were not. Then i saw SO RIFLE XX were set to use the right images but the RIFLE 41 units were not.

[Captain Cruft]

There is no SFType called "SO Rifle 41". The one called "RO Rifle 41" is the Romanian infantry. The only thing called "SO Rifle 41" is the Itemtype as used in production.

None of this is why you don't get the right graphics.

It is using one of the files below:

graphics\default\SFTypeSymbols_Soviet\InfantrySymbol.png
graphics\ostfront\SFTypeSymbols_Soviet\InfantrySymbol.png

Try having a look at these files outside the game from within Windows Explorer.

[bwheatley]

ok i'm a tard sorry LOL

[bwheatley]

i was so retarded thinking RO = russian durrr yea i got the images fixed already i was just thinking i saw a bug and trying to be mr helper sowwie

[Captain Cruft]

No worries

Enjoy playing the Soviets. I know I do ...

[bwheatley]

question why did you decide to end the scen in 1942? Just because it so large?

[bwheatley]

wow.

[Captain Cruft]

You get bazillions of reinforcements. The production is designed to just "fill out" the units, not replace all the losses.

The reasons it ends in 1942 is due to me feeling that the model needs a lot of play-testing before developing the full war scenario.

[bwheatley]

question is a good tactic that i can use to bomb railheads to try to kill trains? well i guess i wouldn't have the range eh?