guctony vers joliverlay testing production sister tread
guctony vers joliverlay testing production sister tread
As joliverlay metioned we starter a pbem to test massive retooling effects
I will define some of my tactics openly to allow some discussion and to simulate effects of Ultra and secret service
I will define some of my tactics openly to allow some discussion and to simulate effects of Ultra and secret service
"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Great risks
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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Operational orders
Orders NO:1
Orders of Guctony
1) Any factory with level 1,2,3 will change its production to Ta 152C.
2) All engine production will be turned to DB 603A And DB603L only very large factories will keep their production until Ta152C production starts.
3) BMW 801 engine production will continue but will be redirected To JU388 R&D
4) We will produce Only DB 603A And DB603L and BMW 801 engine and any plane derived from these Engines.
5) until sufficient numbers attained in Piston engined fighters No serious resource will be spend on jet fighters.
6) All avaible Fighter from any nation any quality will divert To France They will form a Buffer zone until they perish or succeed.
New orders will follow
Orders of Guctony
1) Any factory with level 1,2,3 will change its production to Ta 152C.
2) All engine production will be turned to DB 603A And DB603L only very large factories will keep their production until Ta152C production starts.
3) BMW 801 engine production will continue but will be redirected To JU388 R&D
4) We will produce Only DB 603A And DB603L and BMW 801 engine and any plane derived from these Engines.
5) until sufficient numbers attained in Piston engined fighters No serious resource will be spend on jet fighters.
6) All avaible Fighter from any nation any quality will divert To France They will form a Buffer zone until they perish or succeed.
New orders will follow
"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
RE: Operational orders
Here is the second turn
Allies engaged in bombing missions in France ad they did not risking long voyage to south in daytime and use night bombers for souther factories. Germany is transfering avaible forces to France. And engaging in sneaky attacs. After allies make bombing runs some damaged bombers taken cared by italian forces.
Allies should focus on small factories first because they are the first to come online. attacking very large factories early wont change alot thing. Because conversion time is long so any damage is superficial.
Regards

Allies engaged in bombing missions in France ad they did not risking long voyage to south in daytime and use night bombers for souther factories. Germany is transfering avaible forces to France. And engaging in sneaky attacs. After allies make bombing runs some damaged bombers taken cared by italian forces.
Allies should focus on small factories first because they are the first to come online. attacking very large factories early wont change alot thing. Because conversion time is long so any damage is superficial.
Regards

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
RE: Operational orders
Turn 3 looses.
It was an active Turn centered around France. He came By mediums and lots of timed sweeps. He was trying to catch plane on ground from the previous chases I think. Most of the time he couldnt.
There were so many recon planes around. It can be a good tactic to use. Keeping the Germans in High alert mode so Fatigue will increase. But I lower the Treat alert ranges so it is no big harm.

It was an active Turn centered around France. He came By mediums and lots of timed sweeps. He was trying to catch plane on ground from the previous chases I think. Most of the time he couldnt.
There were so many recon planes around. It can be a good tactic to use. Keeping the Germans in High alert mode so Fatigue will increase. But I lower the Treat alert ranges so it is no big harm.

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Turn 5 loses
Turn 5 looses


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"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Nates Training Bomber Run
If Intel Correct 400 B17 attacked Nates Factory. I think 100 damage level is not enough for such a attack [:D]


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Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
moon light works both way
Moon light works both Way It seems more the 50 evasive action accured. If it is not related to Bomber crew exprience or morale it is very important.
But maybe it is internal mechanics when faster Night figters become avaible bomber wont be able escape in moon light so easly I hope.

But maybe it is internal mechanics when faster Night figters become avaible bomber wont be able escape in moon light so easly I hope.

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Current location of Flanks
Current location of flanks
Flanks guns will be relocated in every 3 to 5 days to different places.
Currently I am engaged with italian Air force in the channel. So Flaks are positioned there to damage Airbase attacks. The idea is to make Flaks damage the attacking plane and italian fighters make the kill. And some bomber formations also captured by these guns.

Flanks guns will be relocated in every 3 to 5 days to different places.
Currently I am engaged with italian Air force in the channel. So Flaks are positioned there to damage Airbase attacks. The idea is to make Flaks damage the attacking plane and italian fighters make the kill. And some bomber formations also captured by these guns.

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"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
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RE: Current location of Flanks
Flanks guns will be relocated in every 3 to 5 days to different places.
maybe not the best idea......railroad Flak is moved to its new site and it is shown there.....but that does not mean it is there yet.
when you move them you get a message.....with the time till arrival in days
RE: Current location of Flanks
I have to correct myself moves will be made 5 days after their arrival.
Keeping Flank in a place too long will probably reduce its effectiveness
Because player will start to bypass them
Keeping Flank in a place too long will probably reduce its effectiveness
Because player will start to bypass them
ORIGINAL: swift
Flanks guns will be relocated in every 3 to 5 days to different places.
maybe not the best idea......railroad Flak is moved to its new site and it is shown there.....but that does not mean it is there yet.
when you move them you get a message.....with the time till arrival in days
"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Bloody Bloody day
Now thats what I call Turkey shooting
I say 40 fighter versus 120 bomber is fair trade. I dont count italian units

I say 40 fighter versus 120 bomber is fair trade. I dont count italian units

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"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Lonely bomber Group
lonely bomber Group


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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
turn 8 looses
turn 8 loose first time Axis looses are more then Allies. But it worth the 40 P47


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"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
RE: turn 9 looses
turn 9 looses


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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
ULTRA Code breakes
ultra code breaker did it again. They break in to Guctonys private communication codes and see that what was the big plan.
Now allies have very good intel about what is coming!!!!!!

Now allies have very good intel about what is coming!!!!!!

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
First Phase Complete
Italy out of war so first phase of the war is complete.
Here is the looses

Here is the looses

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
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"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
we will miss the italian Pilots
we will certainlly miss those expertan Italian pilots. We hope we can see them when facist airforce re-installed


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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Current situation
In 14 days of fighting apart from one trial big raid into germany most action has taken place in the channel. As you can see allies first destroyed Aircraft industries near his attack zone and now focused on Railway stations. He is systematically attacking railway stations. Although a classic Air supremacy action taken place with italian Air forces. it was mainly a delaying action and to see how close action would result. It is clear that so near to allies base it is too difficult to sustain operations. I belive both sides have taken valuable lessons. Allies mastered the art of phased attack. He is using timed attacks waves to hinder my operations catch my plane on ground and to dissaturate my forces. We tried to destroy as much as fighter possible. We plan to go for figters as much as possible. If we can weaken allied figter arm both morally and tactically it will be an advantage to final phase of the war.
Now we are clearly on defensive. We will not get close to channel until our wonder weapons come to effect.We will be waiting in Germany conserving pilots and limited production capacity. we hope there will be enough time after winter to stop the stem.
Much is also depended on weather. if it goes bad we have a very good chances to preserve forces.

Now we are clearly on defensive. We will not get close to channel until our wonder weapons come to effect.We will be waiting in Germany conserving pilots and limited production capacity. we hope there will be enough time after winter to stop the stem.
Much is also depended on weather. if it goes bad we have a very good chances to preserve forces.

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
Pilot looses
currently our initial goal is allmost met.
I prefered to sacrifici Italian forces to Tally a large number of Allied Pilots out of action. I cant surely know did it effect the overal exprience of the allies but When dogfights start again it will be a help I belive

I prefered to sacrifici Italian forces to Tally a large number of Allied Pilots out of action. I cant surely know did it effect the overal exprience of the allies but When dogfights start again it will be a help I belive

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"Unless a nation's life faces peril, war is murder."
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal
"Sovereignty is not given, it is taken."
"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
Mustafa Kemal

