map color change request

[Jim D Burns]

As I get older my eyes are no longer as dependable as they once were. After reading through the alpha AAR, I came to realize I have a very hard time differentiating between rivers and railroads unless I lean in very close to the screen.

Would it be possible to see a change where rivers were a more navy blue color? Or perhaps simply make the railroads a darker/bolder shade of black?

Jim

[Josh]

Ofcourse I can't speak for the devteam, but I doubt things will change. There will be mods available pretty soon after release though, no doubt about that. It would be *very nice* if the dev's included a tool with which to change the gamegraphics somewhat, like most 3D shooters have for instaince. But I doubt that will happen too, it does take quiet some time to implement such a thing.
So what I wanted to tell, have you tried fiddling with your monitor controls? Make it sharper, colours more bright, vivid, etc, that really can make things different... for our eyes.

[TheWombat_matrixforum]

I agree, the maps, while beautiful, do have some issues with contrast or the lack thereof between railroads and rivers. I too would prefer a darker blue for the waterways; let us hope a simple map mod will be easy enough for users to make after release, at least.

[Rasputitsa]

I like what we have seen of the maps, but hope that modding will be available, to meet the needs of all users. [:)]

[Capt Cliff]

Being able to allow the user/abuser to mod the map graphic's would be cool.

[PyleDriver]

I understand that on zoom level 4, it my be a little hard to see, but thats a zoom out to see a bigger picture...This is zoom 4...

[PyleDriver]

Buts thats why we have zoom levels, I'll zoom into level 2...

[PyleDriver]

We also have a level thats closer. If you can't see the difference between rivers and railroads on level 2, well were sorry. I can assure you there won't be map changes at this stage of testing...Heres level 1, thats as close as we zoom in...

[Balou]

Will colors change with mud, snow and blizzard ?

[PyleDriver]

Heres a mud ss. I havn't made to the winter since the new artwork hit. My guess is yes since there is a change with mud...

[Balou]

Great ! Good to see that river waters stay cristal clear though [:D].

[TheWombat_matrixforum]

It's not a question of zoom or clarity--the maps are gorgeous, and well defined. It's a matter of the palette, which is rather muted, and the lack of distinct contrast between the features. In particular the lack of sharp borders on the waterways, to me, contributes to both the nice look of the map and to the difficulty of instantly telling the rivers and streams (especially) from the railroads.

It's NOT a big deal, in the grand scheme of things, and I'm sure it's something that most gamers not in their fifth decade of playing wargames may not notice .

[elmo3]

To be honest I'd say there is no chance the map will be changed.  I don't know if it will be something that can be modded or not.

[Josh]

ORIGINAL: elmo3

To be honest I'd say there is no chance the map will be changed.  I don't know if it will be something that can be modded or not.

Can be modded or not?? How do you mean, I have yet to see a game that didn't get any modifications by fans, as far as I can remember all games get sooner or later mods. Some of them are "simple" graphics mods, espcially if there are lots of gamers asking for such a mod, while other go deeper into the game engine itself... that one usually needs playtesting because well, it changes the game somewhat.
Personally I'm quite happy with how it is now... looking gorgeous.

[Great_Ajax]

The map files are .tga images so I assume that anyone can open them up into some kind of paint program and have at it.

Trey

[Zort]

It seems to me that rail lines run thru the middle of the hex and rivers along the edges. Mud looks like it is harder to see the rail lines but then I guess there is a toggle to show what is being repaired.

Can the rr repair units be moved overland or do they have to stay on rail lines or are the 5 'units' abstracted so the player can just pick anywhere on the map to convert the rail lines?

[PyleDriver]

The 5 FEB units have 16 mp's, and can move either overland or by rail...

[Jim D Burns]

ORIGINAL: Zort

It seems to me that rail lines run thru the middle of the hex and rivers along the edges.

I have no problem telling the difference on a clean unobstructed map. But I found while reading the AAR, with all the unit clutter and whatnot, it was difficult to tell at a glance when railroads or rivers peaked through the clutter of units.

If the map can be modded I’m sure someone will do a mod soon after release to help those of us with bad vision. To get an idea of what I mean, intentionally blur your vision (my vision is blurry all the time these days lol) and read through the AAR. You’ll see it’s hard to easily define the difference between them due to the lack of contrast in color choices.

Jim

[elmo3]

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

I have no problem telling the difference on a clean unobstructed map. But I found while reading the AAR, with all the unit clutter and whatnot, it was difficult to tell at a glance when railroads or rivers peaked through the clutter of units.

If the map can be modded I’m sure someone will do a mod soon after release to help those of us with bad vision. To get an idea of what I mean, intentionally blur your vision (my vision is blurry all the time these days lol) and read through the AAR. You’ll see it’s hard to easily define the difference between them due to the lack of contrast in color choices.

Jim

Keep in mind the screen shots are not as clear as what you will see on your monitor. There is a significant difference between what I see on mine and what comes across in the AAR, probably due to compression.

[PyleDriver]

Yep same here, mine is clearer on my monitor...Also in addition when it gets cluttered we have a view map only button that you can toggle on or off quickly to see under those stacks...