War in the Pacific, Admiral's Edition

[Melstockdale]

Having paid over £68 for this mammoth game, I am disappointed and frustrated because I am drowning in a mass of data and have no idea what to do with it. The reason is that, despite what the manual says, there is no tutorial. The Support Desk tells me that there will be one, but I am left wondering when that may be. I am sure this is a marvellous game and worthy of many hours of study pre-play, but I would very much appreciate at least a basic guide about exactly how to play the game in the first place! Does anybody out there share my frustration, and does anyone know when a tutorial might be forthcoming?

[freeboy]

no manual, best to start and play the small gaudalcanal scenario and read and ask ?'s.. the manual is very dated imo, lease patch your game to patch three andthen read the lengthy readme t osee the literally hundreds of bug fixes and tweeks, GREAT game but yes, lots of details to absorb..

[mcissell]

I bought this in November, and I am unhappy also with no tuturial. However I am slowly (very slowly) figuring my way around in this, AND you are in the right place for asking questions. Watching this thread is of enomous help. And finally there has been a useful tool that I found called "Some Basic Training Videl Tutorials" at http://sites.google.com/site/n01487477/Home

[JudgeDredd]

If either of you want to sell it, I have £30 I'm willing to send you [:D]

[SuluSea]

Detailed videos of game mechanics are located in this thread.
 
Plenty of help is also available in th AE part of the forum via the staff and members that enjoy the game.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[Gem35]

Are you kidding me?
The forums are an exceptional way to get help and learn this game.
Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

[Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Are you kidding me?
The forums are an exceptional way to get help and learn this game.
Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

Prime example why MANY stay away from the WITP AE forum.

[Gem35]

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Are you kidding me?
The forums are an exceptional way to get help and learn this game.
Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

Prime example why MANY stay away from the WITP AE forum.

MANY make their way to the WITP AE forums, the most popular title from Matrix, trolling is against the rules my friend

[Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Are you kidding me?
The forums are an exceptional way to get help and learn this game.
Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

Prime example why MANY stay away from the WITP AE forum.

trolling is against the rules my friend

Trolling ?

So insulting members asking questions is all good ?

Who are you to Matrix to have such liberty ?

[Gem35]

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: Gem35

ORIGINAL: Sarge




Prime example why MANY stay away from the WITP AE forum.

trolling is against the rules my friend

Trolling ?

So insulting members asking questions is all good ?

Who are you to Matrix to have such liberty ?

that isnt insulting, I clearly directed him to the forums and offered help, unlike you who have insulted that whole community of people.

[Wolfe1759]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Are you kidding me?
The forums are an exceptional way to get help and learn this game.
Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

I've had WITP:AE for a few months now and have also been somewhat daunted by the learning curve.

I've also been somewhat daunted by the WITP:AE forum which has so many posts and subjects many of which are highly introspective and arcane to a neophyte that actually finding any useful newcomer help and information is as complex as finding it in the manual or patch updates. A stickied intro/how to learn WITP thread would be very welcome or even a "New to WITP" sub-forum.

In regards to the quote above the final sentence isn't exactly welcoming to someone who has taken the plunge into the deep waters of WITP.

[Gem35]

ORIGINAL: Wolfe

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Are you kidding me?
The forums are an exceptional way to get help and learn this game.
Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

I've had WITP:AE for a few months now and have also been somewhat daunted by the learning curve.

I've also been somewhat daunted by the WITP:AE forum which has so many posts and subjects many of which are highly introspective and arcane to a neophyte that actually finding any useful newcomer help and information is as complex as finding it in the manual or patch updates. A stickied intro/how to learn WITP thread would be very welcome or even a "New to WITP" sub-forum.

In regards to the quote above the final sentence isn't exactly welcoming to someone who has taken the plunge into the deep waters of WITP.

I appologize if it came across as intimidating but honestly, as a long-time member of these forums, I have met nothing but helpful nice people who are there on their own accord to help anybody who has an issue. It's quite frankly the best game and best group of folks I have met in my gaming experiences. Feel free to have your own opinion but before you give up, give the game another try and see for yourself.

[n01487477]

ORIGINAL: Melstockdale
Having paid over £68 for this mammoth game, I am disappointed and frustrated because I am drowning in a mass of data and have no idea what to do with it.

If it is in game data that you're drowning in you can look at WitpTracker or witpStaff to help here...
If it is the sheer immense scale, then go for some of the smaller scenarios and work your way up...

The reason is that, despite what the manual says, there is no tutorial. The Support Desk tells me that there will be one, but I am left wondering when that may be. I am sure this is a marvellous game and worthy of many hours of study pre-play, but I would very much appreciate at least a basic guide about exactly how to play the game in the first place! Does anybody out there share my frustration, and does anyone know when a tutorial might be forthcoming?

Being one of the developers of WitpTrackerAE, I also decided to fill the official gap with some unofficial video tutorials as well - which some have kindly shown above.
http://sites.google.com/site/n01487477/Home
After the next release of Tracker 1.5.1, I'll go back and do some more, with a turn by turn tutorial on Coral sea or Guadalcanal + other game mechanics ....

Also a wiki http://hc-strategy.com/ae/wiki/index.ph ... =Main_Page

And I have to say (being diplomatic)while the AEsubforum is not everyone's cup of tea, ask some Q's as a noob and you'll get plenty of help - believe me we were all at the starting blocks at one time or another..

Good luck

[Zakhal]

Best tutorial is to start the game as allies playing defensively. You dont have to do much so you can pick up the game as slow as you need to. Also you can afford many mistakes. [:D]

[LarryP]

I started with WitP first. It's not recommended to start with AE. However, if you post in the forum, within minutes you should have at least a reply, if not several. If it were not for the forum, I would still be lost with parts of the game. You can ask anything there so don't be shy. Those Grognards love to help. It really is the most helpful forum at Matrix.

The game is very intimidating at first. If you keep at it though, you will be rewarded more than time spent on any other title. You will also learn a lot about that era. Make sure though that you have plenty of time when you play. [;)]

[JudgeDredd]

Sorry - but to my original offer - any of you want to get rid of that rubbish game for £30? [;)]

[E]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

Maybe you just dont have what it takes to understand this game.

[undercovergeek]

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

Sorry - but to my original offer - any of you want to get rid of that rubbish game for £30? [;)]

cold JD, just cold!! [:'(]

[Hertston]

ORIGINAL: Gem35

I appologize if it came across as intimidating but honestly, as a long-time member of these forums, I have met nothing but helpful nice people who are there on their own accord to help anybody who has an issue. It's quite frankly the best game and best group of folks I have met in my gaming experiences. Feel free to have your own opinion but before you give up, give the game another try and see for yourself.

I think two issues are getting confused here. Like all the Matrix forums the WitP one is a great place to get help and advice - nobody is denying that let alone, I suspect, the OP - but as with most intellectual activities that are worthwhile, a certain knowledge about where to start in a really complex strategy game like AE is necessary before you can even really know what it is you should be asking. That's where tutorials come in, be it either in-game, video, in the manual or whatever - to give folks a basis on which to start.

I'm baffled, too, as to why AE doesn't include one simply because I found the original WitP tutorial very helpful in giving me just that sort of start, and a basis from which to explore both game and manual, and formulate sensible questions about particular points.

[Erik Rutins]

To respond to the original question, the tutorial should finally show up in the next major update. However, there are many tools, posts and other data available in the WITP AE forum, as posted above that take the place of a tutorial and the community as a whole is very welcoming to new players and loves to answer questions. Start with Coral Sea, the smallest scenario, and work your way up.