AI builds obsolete designs 1.0.4.4

[taltamir]

If there is no ship design of a current type (example, troop transport) then the AI will build an obsolete design instead. It should simply not build this type of ship anymore (this is why I obsoleted every single design of that kind)

[exelsiar]

I believe it falls back on the latest design if you don't have a current one (or a current one of a small enough size for your current limit), i say this as it would seem you don't have a current design for your troop transport role

[taltamir]

ORIGINAL: exelsiar

I believe it falls back on the latest design if you don't have a current one (or a current one of a small enough size for your current limit), i say this as it would seem you don't have a current design for your troop transport role

I don't have a current design ON PURPOSE. I obsoleted all my troop transport designs so that the AI will stop building them. I went ahead and retired every troop transport I had in service... but the AI was building them faster then I could retire them... I guess I could disable AI ship building, retire them all, then delete all the designs, then reenable it... but if there is no current design then it shouldn't build it.

[exelsiar]

i agree that's what it should be designed to do as i used to hate having them, but alas its not coded that way, hopefully that'll be changed... along with the blasted defence bases.

[taltamir]

ORIGINAL: exelsiar

i agree that's what it should be designed to do as i used to hate having them, but alas its not coded that way, hopefully that'll be changed... along with the blasted defence bases.

Are you saying that the behavior is on purpose rather then a bug?

[exelsiar]

i believe it to be more likely an oversight

[taltamir]

ORIGINAL: exelsiar

i believe it to be more likely an oversight

You mean, they intentionally decided to have it do so, but because they did not properly consider the consequences (rather then them deciding that the game should make ships even if you want it not to)

[exelsiar]

yes and no, the no mainly being because the way you worded it sounds kinda harsh

[Litjan]

I guess this works as intended. You either automate the shipbuilding, do it manually, or have them suggest (with you needing to approve). The system does not allow for partial automation, like "only autobuild destroyers" or "don´t autobuild escorts".

You trying to obsolete the design is a workaround that didn´t work. Try to delete the design, maybe that works.

And add a more detailed automation system for shipbuilding (if that is desired) to the "wishlist-thread", it might get implemented!

Jan

[taltamir]

ORIGINAL: Litjan

I guess this works as intended. You either automate the shipbuilding, do it manually, or have them suggest (with you needing to approve). The system does not allow for partial automation, like "only autobuild destroyers" or "don´t autobuild escorts".

You trying to obsolete the design is a workaround that didn´t work. Try to delete the design, maybe that works.

And add a more detailed automation system for shipbuilding (if that is desired) to the "wishlist-thread", it might get implemented!

Jan

You cannot deleted designs in use. What I need to do is: 1. Disable AI ship building 2. Find and retire every single troop transport ship of ANY design in existance. 3. Delete every single troop transport design ever designed by my empire. 4. Reenable AI ship building.

I see absolutely no reason for it to be design to build obsolete ships, I think this is a bug and there is absolute no reason for it to do otherwise. If a ship is obsolete, don't build it, if all ships of a certain role are obsolete, don't build any of them... I think the AI was d the latest design you made is the design you want to build.

[elliotg]

ORIGINAL: taltamir If there is no ship design of a current type (example, troop transport) then the AI will build an obsolete design instead. It should simply not build this type of ship anymore (this is why I obsoleted every single design of that kind)

This is meant to work as you expected taltamir, but there was a bug that didn't refresh the latest ship designs to nothing if all designs for a subrole were obsolete. This has been fixed in the final version of 1.0.4.