WAW version 5T

[cveta]

After Rufus and Bwheartley talk we started a new WAW game. Sides are like this ( or it was suposed to be like this ). Anyway we started so if somebady of people listed is not in for a game, somebady else may jump in. Talk with Rufus or Bwheartley

Axis - Rufus
Western Allies - Cveta
Russia + China - Tweber
Japan - bwheartley

Rufus time to play as Axis and give me a beating.
Opening was standard. Warsaw fall to axis on second turn. On third turn Axis did some recon over France and lost a plane. In 4 th turn West tray to do a blind bombing on Munich and lost 2 LB in a proces. Suplay losses for west in Mediteranean see occured in round 3 or 4.
In November 39 Axis enter Luxemburg so allied minors join West. Since this hapened west decide to pull back from Maginot line and brake the Maginot line rule ( something new for me ). In a partial retret West attack one Axis units near Luxemburg and force it back ( frst axis blood was spiled there ). Then in December 39 Axis take Amsterdam, pushing the defenders back. Snow fell reducing the movement but France and Belgium armies did a daring attack on Duuseldorf spoting a nice chance to capture Axis planes on the ground. Here are the results.

[cveta]

Also in the same turn Allied forces discover who is killing suplays in Mediteranean area near Sicily.  We spoted Wulfpack of 6 subs ( how did they got there? ). British ships gathered and did an all around attack after the enemy was soften with attack from carier air. After firce and fast battle subs surender without inflicting any loses to attacker. Enigma machine was captured.
Second attack near Norway on anather group of subs resulted in a los of 1 carier air. Subs fight well this time.
So now is a time for Axis to strike back.

[explorer2]

"We spoted Wulfpack of 6 subs ( how did they got there? ). "

The list of changes to version T indicates that Gibraltar strait was enlarged to allow naval passage. This is far more geographically/historically accurate than previously.
1/3 of all the GE U-Boats patrolled in the Med. The strait is about 50 miles wide, so anything can actually go through. This brings up an entirely new possibility for the Med battles.
Good that you figured out what was going on [:)]

[british exil]

Your attack on his airfields will have hurt him bad. Nice move. Your losses pale compared to his losses.[&o]

Lesson to be learnt. Garrison the airfields with some forces in the hexes in front of the airfield, esp near the frontlines.

Mat

[cveta]

ORIGINAL: british exil

Your attack on his airfields will have hurt him bad. Nice move. Your losses pale compared to his losses.[&o]

Lesson to be learnt. Garrison the airfields with some forces in the hexes in front of the airfield, esp near the frontlines.

Mat

It was risky move, but it pays off. My tunks got stuck there, and I menage to transfer only 2. Anmd I belive that problem is that we all underestimate the France armies. They may bite, and may buite hard. So Evacuation to England is ok, but only when there is no chance that they may fight anymore

[kondor]

Loss of those DB-s will hurt Axis a lot...
Good job with allowing subs from Atlantic to Med., I was wandering why was that not possible from the start but never remembered to ask [;)]

[RufusTFirefly]

As case Yellow (attack on France) is done very early this time it will be interesting to see how Axis will proceed - or loose in 1940 [:D]

The losses of air groups are hard to take. There were German units in the line in front of the airfield, but they were beaten and the way was clear to attack Duesseldorf. @ british exil: I never have an airfield with unsufficiant ground protection [;)]

Jan 40:
Duesseldorf was taken again. Unfortuately it now produces only supply, PP and transport units like any captured enemy production center. French and Belgium forces lost several rifles and some tanks in the battle and were forced to go back behind the Rhine. Paras dropped behind Maginot line interrupted railway lines from southern France to Paris.

In North Sea a British sub was sunk.

Belgium forces in Luttich were bombed. More elite forces arrived at front in Belgium.

[tweber]

ORIGINAL: cveta

In 4 th turn West tray to do a blind bombing on Munich and lost 2 LB in a proces.

One tactical tip would be to build all your bomber formations with only 1 bomber each. You send in a lone bomber to test the defense. If it is unscathed, then you can send in the main sortie. This way, you avoid having to risk running in to a flak or fighter trap.

Other tips on bombing:

- Conquered territories (e.g., Paris, Lille) or 50% less effective in production. Focus on German cities.
- If Egypt and Cyprus is secured, it makes a good base against the Balkans
- Single bomber formations are also good for using the exact right number of planes to knock out a location without wastage.
- Don't forget to bomb the supply depot in Norway. It is within easy range.
- Also, I think in this version the defense of shore guns was reduced against air. If you bomb Hamburg, you also restrict the number of subs the Germans will build

If in the end, Germany defends all it's production, it's attack against the Soviets will be much weaker.

[cveta]

Tanks for tips tweber. I learn from you much. Ever give a thoughts to open scool for advanced at players?? I am redy to join. Name your price, LOL

[RufusTFirefly]

Yes, bomb the German cities. The Germans had already bombed Paris and reduced it from 8000 down to 6700 (forgot to mention it in report of turn of Jan40). [:D]

[RufusTFirefly]

May 1940

Several enemy bomb raids on Amsterdam. All without any effect. Royal Navy attacked Kriegsmarine in Skagerak. Two German subs sunk. Although Denmark claims to be neutral, the passage to Baltic Sea is blocked.

Heavy bombing and ground attacks forced the combinded units of France and Belgium to withdraw from Brussels. The city was not taken by German forces as counterattacks might be successful.

Remains of paratroopers moved into hilly area of central France. Only a few men survived. Second group of parachuters landing near Orleans.

[cveta]

Two turns in a row attack on Amsterdam bridges faill. In a first attack forces consist of 2 LB, Then 4 LB then 2lb again. All fail. In next turn attacks were executed like this - 1 lB and then 5 LB and non of the bridges destroyed. Explorer - Is LB demolish power reduced in this version??
Attack on Kriegsmarine went well. All German warships sinked. Brussel taken, but without hope of holding it.
Bridges near Brisseles destroyed so the Germans will have trouble advancing. Same goes for Luxemburg bridges. Suplay in the winter start to be a problem. Maybe a time for withroval from France come?
 

[cveta]

Germany pushed us back from Brusseles, enter the city and executed hard attack on our units behind Brusseles. They won mayor victory kiling all our artilery.
We tray this turn to retake Brusseles again. Atack wes executed with 50% bonus and we menage to kill light tank and armour car, and some infantry, but Germans fight well killing more our soldiers ( if calculated in PP ). But I accept loses 1/2 or 1/3 in France. But I wont be able to keep this rate as high as this so I will start ( and alredy did ) withrowal from France.
Preparations in Africa and Asia on sceduled.
After sinking of German warships I think that I dont need my ships anymore. Too many supplays to use, no need for them in next years. I leave them for the Germans to attack if they wont. But to warn him - they will fight back, so careful.

[RufusTFirefly]

I shall sink your fleet so you dont have to pay supply for it? No, Mr. Churchill, do it yourself if you want to get ride of your navy. [:D]

May 40

Brussels save in German hands. Advance through Belgium towards Reims continues. Small French unit encircled near Calais.

3rd Fallschirmjaeger landed near Vichy, 2nd Fallschirmjaeger west of Orleans moved along the Loire and cut supply lines. France now devided into a northern and a southern part. Parts of army group Sued managed to break Maginot line. Southern fortifications taken. Heavy bomb raid on Paris. 2 of 14 LB got lost due to French interceptors. But bombers got Paris down to capacity of 5000 now (originally 8000).

[bwheatley]

First japanese turn done. I just started building up my unstoppable war machine.

[RufusTFirefly]

Here is a screenshot of the French campaign:

After an early attack on Luxembourgh, German units took Amsterdam. French and Belgium forces manged to defend for two months til they had to retreat. German army pushed forward to the area between Paris and Reims. Supported by units at the Channel coast the French army cut off the German spearhead and forced the remaining units to move south.

France seemed to have moved many troops from Maginot line towards Belgium. So German forces at the river Rhine were able to attack successfully and take parts of Maginot fortifications.

This is the situation at the start of the turn, when screenshot was made.

During Axis turn Lille was taken and the gap between encircled German spearhead and main army at Belgium was closed. At the same time the southern group passed the French Maginot fortifications and met with spearhead south of Reims. Therefore whole army group in eastern French provinces were cut off. West tried to evacuate units to Britain. German subs attacked the British navy in the Channel. But in spite of sinking some transport vessels three battleships were sunk. The counterattack of Royal Navy was a desaster for German Kriegsmarine. All subs got lost (12 subs).

French campaign is completed now. Vichy is established. Italy has joined the war and claims to be part of the victorious side. [;)]

[tweber]

First China turn sent.  Initial strategy is to contest every rough terrain hex and build some mortars for counter attack.

[cveta]

Didnot write for some time, RL consumed me.
Evacuation of France is sucsesful. I belive that France theathre is a win if defender execute few good counterattacks, and withrov as much as passible troops to England and Africa. So France is down, but the France armies still fight. Italy enter the war and suffer loss of 5 subs same turn. They were docked in Palermo, and air attack was realy good. Also German executed sub attack on English ships in channel, sink 3 batleship but lost all of hs subs. With this battle I belive that England is safe. See lion will be a real problem now.
German have the initative now. I wonder where will they strike now. Norway? Denmark? Yugoslavia? Afrika?
Japan is still neutral. When Japan enter the fight this will be realy interesting. All citied defence prepared. Let them come.

[RufusTFirefly]

Turn Axis end of August 40

War declared on Yugoslavia. Zagreb taken by Italien corps after air raid done by German Luftwaffe. Italien forces in Africa slowly moving eastwards.

[bwheatley]

Turn sent. My first turn as japan just trying to put together a real strategy. I've never played japan before so any tips i'd be glad to have them or else tweber might whoop me