Victoria 2 demo

[bairdlander2]

Im going to give this a try.I have Victoria 1 and found it way to complex.Apparently this version is quite easy to learn.Here is link http://www.fileplanet.com/215199/210000/fileinfo/Victoria-2-Demo

[bairdlander2]

Looks good,very detailed too detailed in fact,I dont have time.

[jjax]

Better watch out, the way things are around here someone might confuse you for a spam bot.

I have the first one, and it is fun however only the hardcore need apply.

[bairdlander2]

It is a refreshing change from all the WW2 games.I think it is a more interesting time period.More economics and diplomacy than military.Im thinking it might be on Gamergate summer sale when strategy week comes up.

[bairdlander2]

At least there is a tutorial,I will go over it tomorrow.

[ezzler]

 Agree. Victoria 1 was too hardcore. But this keeps calling me. .. I know I'm going to hate it. I know Civ 5 is going to suck months of time out of the universe very soon. I know I already have rise of flight; iron cross to consider.


And yet...

[decaro]

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Im going to give this a try.I have Victoria 1 and found it way to complex.Apparently this version is quite easy to learn ...

I'm geting tired of paying twice for Paradox titles; it's like paying the developer to beta-test their games.

However, I will admit the video intro for Victoria (I) was one of the best videos for a computer game I've seen in a long time.

[Phatguy]

Played the demo....It's a lot easier on the brain cells than the 1st one..Its also a lot more fun....But I managed to get the south to secede and start the American Civil War in 1848.. Was pretty interesting. Demo expired with the south controlling 5 "provinces". Of course as a prelude to the war I went through three years of Jacobin rebellions in the north, with the biggest one occurring in NYC(21K troops).I let all the anti-slavery options going and didnt pass any of the historic legislation which prolonged the inevatable....

Played another one and started a war with mexico in 1842. Lost a lot of troops but was getting my 2nd phase troops down into Mexico and Texas when my Allies attacked Mexico from the south(Central American States)One worrisome thing is Mexico has a boatload of troops and they arent that bad.Or maybe my Yankees are just plain horrible..

All pretty plausible scenarios..Nothing like MHII where Mexico declare war on SIam and such things.

This does look like a 1st day purchase.Cant say the same for any other Paradox title that I have ever seen. But it seems amazon is the only NA distributor and they are getting it the 22nd and not the 13th like the rest of humanity.Not doing the DL thing....

[Lützow]

ORIGINAL: apathetic lurker

Played the demo....It's a lot easier on the brain cells than the 1st one..

Got a similiar feeling and I'm disapointed.

The predecessor took me two days before I understood how pop's, fabrics, production lines, trade goods, etc. are associated and affect the outcome. Here everything works from the get go - no special setup needed. Of course, one can adjust budget sliders and turn off trade AI, but it's not required. You can as well lean back and simply let the game run. There are tons of population statistics - to watch - as it's not possible to directly affect pop's. Vicky 2 seems to be more about macro-management than micro-management by design.

Allowedly, I skiped tutorials, just played through a few months, and there is still plenty of stuff to discover. But at first glance my impression is akin to James (out of eight) rants: too much automation, too less required player interaction. Actually it feels more like Europa Universalis than Victoria and the music simply doesn't fit to this era.

This is no final verdict though and I will look at other people's opinions after release.

[Lützow]

Alright, played until 1839 now (3 years) and my first impression confirmed. All I got to do was adjusting tax sliders, setting national focus and research, and clicking events now and then. Aside of this the game ran on his own.

Maybe the US are not a lucky choice for such a demo, as one can't build fabrics due to laissez faire and that cuts player interaction even more. But whatever, I'm bored already. HoI 3, despite all it's flaws, demanded more thinking and micro-management for the first 3 years.

[Phatguy]

Thats the thing I liked about it though.....Less automatation.....feels more like you are running an actual country than doing everything yourself. At least the AI seems to be a bit more intelligent than many.....

[Titanwarrior89]

I may give it a shot. Dl demo now.

[Fallschirmjager]

One of my most looked forward too games.

[jomni]

I'm liking this one. Never played the original because of the micromanagement.

The micromanagement of Vicky I is a "love it or hate it" thing.
The people who loved it don't like the automation of Vicky II.
Those who hated it thinks Vicky II's automation is a gift from god.
People who never played Vicky will probably love the automation.
Personally, I find it more realistic as (democratic) governments are there to influence behaviour of the population instead of dictating everything.

[bairdlander2]

ORIGINAL: Joe D.

ORIGINAL: bairdlander

Im going to give this a try.I have Victoria 1 and found it way to complex.Apparently this version is quite easy to learn ...

I'm geting tired of paying twice for Paradox titles; it's like paying the developer to beta-test their games.

However, I will admit the video intro for Victoria (I) was one of the best videos for a computer game I've seen in a long time.

[&:][&:]How does a sequel equate to the same game?[&:][&:]

[diablo1]

How does a sequel equate to the same game?

Well it's like putting lipstick on a pig...it's still a pig...with lipstick.

[bairdlander2]

Ahhh I see you want to turn this into yet another bash Paradox thread,instead of stating something relevent.Bravo.You are a genius.

[comte]

Well I for one enjoyed the demo and I'm ordering the game.

[Widell]

Well, the lipstick thingy can said of many games and sequels, and at one point the patch is a new game, and I think most people are OK paying for it. Of course there are many games that, IMHO, exploit this and effectively charge for (sometimes mega, but still) patches, but there are also many examples of where it is reasonable. I guess we all have to make up our own minds of what we are willing to pay for..... Personally I love the Football Manager series, but I am not willing to buy the same (more or less "patched") game every year, so I end up buying last years version, but every second year or, at a huge discount

Those that feel this way about Vicky I versus Vicky II can probably wait a year, and get their piglet for almost nothing. Others have the option to get it now and pay more I guess...

[Arctic Blast]

Holy cow...actually worthwhile tutorials?! Can it be?! That's already an upgrade! [:)]