Finnish Activation

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:58 pm

In my current turn versus Oleg the northern Finns activated turn 4.

The southern Finns have not activated, and it's turn 5.

Is that correct? Or is the activation based on advance or some other condition?

2ndACR · Post by **2ndACR** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:21 pm

I have noticed some oddities in activation since beta 6 released. But cannot seem to duplicate them. I had Hungarians not activate till turn 4 in one AI game, then activate as normal in another. I have 1 AI game where the Hungarian Sec brigade does not activate at all. Turn 19 and it is still inactive.

They should have activated though. Mine and yours.

They are timed activation and not related to anything else as far as I know.

PeeDeeAitch · Post by **PeeDeeAitch** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:21 pm

The Karelian Army activates on 4, the Southern Finns on turn 5 if I recall rightly. I, on the other hand, usually forget about them and they all are "PDH Activated" on turn 6!

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:38 pm

I thought it was turn 3, then 4?

If it's 4, then 5, the Soviet player can happily evacuate from the Finnish base. Well, fierceinterdiction with biplanes, notwithstanding. I mean, the lines are thinned out, up to 8 tp 10 units (guesstimation) not there, that I didn't even get to launch a failed attack onto...

Fired up a h2h game, and it's turn 3 then 4, without even advancing and Germs, or withdrawing any Soviets.

PS: Emailed save to "2x3" address, but it's not in my outbox, maybe it didn't get sent. Will resend via Hotmail, so I at least have a record of it going.

PeeDeeAitch · Post by **PeeDeeAitch** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:39 pm

3 and 4, 4 and 5?  I was going off of memory!  Don't blame me when my bank account comes back overdrawn, I go off memory there too.

2ndACR · Post by **2ndACR** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:41 pm

Yep, I got a save posted in the Tech forum showing a activation oddity.

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:42 pm

ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

3 and 4, 4 and 5? I was going off of memory! Don't blame me when my bank account comes back overdrawn, I go off memory there too.

I'm with you right there. No memory... What are we discussing?

Oh yeah, tourism in Tallinn in '41. Does their beach have good surf? Charlie don't surf, but does Ivan?

randallw · Post by **randallw** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:43 pm

The Soviet units on the Finnish front activate on the same turn as the Finns, though yes the front is sort of divided between north and south.  Since activation is on the same turn the Finns get to attack before the Sovs can move back on their own.  The exception is the Sov brigade with 2 fort regions.

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:43 pm

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Yep, I got a save posted in the Tech forum showing a activation oddity.

OK, that's good. The Romanians activated on our turn 2, which I thought was odd, and pointed out to Oleg, along with a few Hungarian brigades of the VIII Corps and Mobile Corps... Now the Finns refuse to come to the party. And we have our party hats on...[:D]

2ndACR · Post by **2ndACR** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:46 pm

If you get close enough the Romanians will activate early. That has always been the case. Not sure where the magic line is, but if you go for a Lvov pocket turn 1, they usually will activate.

Have not caught the Finns yet. But sure do miss that Hungarian Sec brigade. Would free up another combat unit.

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:51 pm

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

If you get close enough the Romanians will activate early. That has always been the case. Not sure where the magic line is, but if you go for a Lvov pocket turn 1, they usually will activate.

Have not caught the Finns yet. But sure do miss that Hungarian Sec brigade. Would free up another combat unit.

Don't have the screenies for that. Does Oleg in his AAR? He said something about not being able to post screenshots yesterday... Ah well.. Since it's well past, and Oleg and I discussed it when it happened, no issue for our game. Just a continuing bit of strangeness with activation, I think.

Yeah, the Hung Sec Brigade and Mtn brigade activated, that has happened on and off over several games vs the AI. I never know when I will have it or not.

The Mobile Corps HQ didn't activate though, which put the Mobile Corps units on a bit of a leash until it activated, haha. So they stayed se of Lvov mostly for a turn or 2, clearing up some pocketed units down there, as I recall.

Sigh, AGS bleh, let's think of happier thoughts.[;)]

Have decided to write an AAR so you can give advice in my own AAR thread instead of everywhere else, haha.

PeeDeeAitch · Post by **PeeDeeAitch** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:54 pm

ORIGINAL: Senno

I'm with you right there. No memory... What are we discussing?

Oh yeah, tourism in Tallinn in '41. Does their beach have good surf? Charlie don't surf, but does Ivan?

The Russians have a long and storied tradition of serfing.

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:58 pm

ORIGINAL: PeeDeeAitch

ORIGINAL: Senno

I'm with you right there. No memory... What are we discussing?

Oh yeah, tourism in Tallinn in '41. Does their beach have good surf? Charlie don't surf, but does Ivan?

The Russians have a long and storied tradition of serfing.

OOOO, PeeDee will be here until forever, folks. BaDumTish....[:D]

PS: Of all the weird things on the internet, can you believe I couldn't find an image of a surfing babushka? Lots of serfing babushka's though, haha.

2ndACR · Post by **2ndACR** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:03 pm

Good, gotta protect that opsec.

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:07 pm

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

Good, gotta protect that opsec.

Yeah, Oleg is much better at that than I, lol.

Shoulda just surprised him with the Romanian activaion. haha, the Romanians are now 1 hex closer to Beep (name censored to protect the innocent target)....Quiver in fear. [;)]

PS: The results of my h2h games with my eldest son are in. He agrees with the forum, and resigned both sides before Spring '42. Which side is broken depends on which side he is playing.[:D]

Hmm, TMI h extending self-deprecating humor towards my son? Hope he doesn't read this, =p Actually, I don't think any grand conclusions can be drawn from 2 games, that he was only partly interested in. He's playing Rift now, with his free time, what little he has, anyway. At least he says he is studying for his college courses....

Mynok · Post by **Mynok** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:58 pm

I couldn't find an image of a surfing babushka

And we are grateful.....

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:33 am

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:58 pm

Turn 6 in my possession and southern Finns remain unactivated.

2ndACR · Post by **2ndACR** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:00 pm

That sucks. I have not heard anything about my tech post. 

Senno · Post by **Senno** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:03 am

Still waiting for a final answer to my e-mail as well.

I have recieved a reply to the first e-mail I sent, it was "what's the password", Doh....[;)]

Kinda wasn't expecting one yet, though. Sunday and all.

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