German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
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German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
New game. This game, I am going to try and do much better than previous games. But also try and do better than Tullius' last opponent and not let him kill all those Panzer troops so soon.
We shall see what happens.
We shall see what happens.
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
Now now, I have the market cornered. I demand you show German invincibility.
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
Turn 2 is sent.
Tillius got some holds on turn 1 so that set me back some. I have 3 panzer div across the river south of Riga. Standard pocket formed in the AGC area of operations.
In the AGS 1 panzer Corps sent from AGC to seal northern pocket. Rovno captured. Lvov pocket failed due to holds. So I came up short there. But will complete the pocket next turn and try to catch anything left.
Not posting screen shots this turn because we have all seen them a thousand times. Will start posting them next turn after we see what Tillius does in response.
Tillius got some holds on turn 1 so that set me back some. I have 3 panzer div across the river south of Riga. Standard pocket formed in the AGC area of operations.
In the AGS 1 panzer Corps sent from AGC to seal northern pocket. Rovno captured. Lvov pocket failed due to holds. So I came up short there. But will complete the pocket next turn and try to catch anything left.
Not posting screen shots this turn because we have all seen them a thousand times. Will start posting them next turn after we see what Tillius does in response.
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
See what I said in the Kovel thread. I did ok with not closing the Lvov pocket on turn 1 (or turn 2 *blush*)
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
I saw it, I don't worry too much about it. I will bag 90% of them turn 2 and 3. Unless he gets ballsy and manages to isolate the farthest panzer div which will require me to mount a rescue effort.
I got all the rail lines cut so he is forced to march them out at the least.
I got all the rail lines cut so he is forced to march them out at the least.
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
That is key. They can only go so far. And unless you bag them all on turn 1 or 2, there is plenty of gas since you are still close to the railheads (unlike the panzers sucking fumes next to the Dnepr in PzG 2 and 3...)
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
Turn 2
In the north, Riga falls and armor continues moving east. Not going to stick my neck out too far, but have still stuck it out there some.

In the north, Riga falls and armor continues moving east. Not going to stick my neck out too far, but have still stuck it out there some.

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Turn 2 Center
Turn 1 pockets eliminated. Minsk weakly isolated. Infantry advancing to the front.

Turn 1 pockets eliminated. Minsk weakly isolated. Infantry advancing to the front.

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Turn 2 South
Here the Lvov pocket is completed. He got some out, but not all of them. Armor advancing to the east and 6th Army keeping pace.

Here the Lvov pocket is completed. He got some out, but not all of them. Armor advancing to the east and 6th Army keeping pace.

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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
And turn 2 casualties


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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
Hmm.. I see a fair number of your units getting put out of supply. He should be able to reestablish contact with the Stanislav and Minsk pockets as well rather cheaply.
RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
He will go back into supply, but not escape. It delays my killing his army quick, but I have to keep moving east. I have tried the halt and allow infantry to close the distance but that allows him to dig in deeper. That I cannot afford.
I should be able to open my lines back up to any units that get cut off the next turn. Unless I get popped by mud, but I think he said non random weather so I might get lucky.
I should be able to open my lines back up to any units that get cut off the next turn. Unless I get popped by mud, but I think he said non random weather so I might get lucky.
RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
You're gonna get some armor isolated in AGN.
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
Turn 3
Judging by all the hits his thread has gotten, you all must have seen that glorious counter attack he launched. Well, I had a moment of "oh crap" when I first opened the turn. I did not grab screen shots at turn start, but I bet he has some in his. LOL
Should I make you all wait or just give up the info?
Nah, why prolong the agony.
In the north, 3 panzer div isolated, as I thought might happen. But, all are back in supply again and safe another turn. Infantry have closed the distance and are now in supporting range.

Judging by all the hits his thread has gotten, you all must have seen that glorious counter attack he launched. Well, I had a moment of "oh crap" when I first opened the turn. I did not grab screen shots at turn start, but I bet he has some in his. LOL
Should I make you all wait or just give up the info?
Nah, why prolong the agony.
In the north, 3 panzer div isolated, as I thought might happen. But, all are back in supply again and safe another turn. Infantry have closed the distance and are now in supporting range.

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Turn 3 Central
Tillius isolated half of AGC armor, but all are safe and in supply again. Infantry have closed the distance and also in much better support distance.

Tillius isolated half of AGC armor, but all are safe and in supply again. Infantry have closed the distance and also in much better support distance.

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Turn 3 South
Here was the biggest moment of panic. But it worked out in my favor big time. He now has a huge army pocketed. Glad I shifted that AGC Panzer Corps to the south. It paid off in spades. It will be close, but I think I have him firmly trapped.

Here was the biggest moment of panic. But it worked out in my favor big time. He now has a huge army pocketed. Glad I shifted that AGC Panzer Corps to the south. It paid off in spades. It will be close, but I think I have him firmly trapped.

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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
Overall, I was surprised by his counter attack. First opponent I have had that really did a major counter attack like that. Most form lines in the north near Pskov, behind the Dnepr in the Center, and form a line in the south. So, I will have to adjust my thought pattern to his play style.
God that was a fun turn.
God that was a fun turn.
RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
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God that was a fun turn.
That's it, right there.[:)]
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RE: German Folly 2ndAcr (GE) vs Tullius (Reds)
It had it's moments of doubt, but the more I looked at the turn, the more I thought I could turn this around, and there it was. He did not pin my northern armor units. That was the key, they had full movement available to them to head south at break neck speed. I would have been screwed if he would have pinned my northern forces and forced me to use up movement points attacking, but the entire center was clear except for a few weak units that got bumped out of the way.
Plus 6th Army was close enough to make the initial bumps. I hope the entire game is this fun. LOL
Oh, and if you all are wondering, that lower gap in Romania was a boo boo on my part, I forgot to move the air landing Div up to close it off.
Plus 6th Army was close enough to make the initial bumps. I hope the entire game is this fun. LOL
Oh, and if you all are wondering, that lower gap in Romania was a boo boo on my part, I forgot to move the air landing Div up to close it off.



