
And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
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And so Berlin Falls...... to the Rumanians
I just had to share this result from an AI vs AI test game. It is very rare that Berlin falls in these tests - she usual gets within 3-6 hexes by the end of the game, but this time she got there using her Guards Rumanian Security Division!


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Its enough to make one shoot oneself, my brand new wife, my dog and then get burned with petrol
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<lol>
Yea, can you imagine a Downfall parody of Hitler complaining about the Rumanians?
Yea, can you imagine a Downfall parody of Hitler complaining about the Rumanians?
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Haha. Good one!
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How was the SEC division even formed? Can Soviet player form Security divisions and why would he even want to do it, when there are no Axis partisans? How come that non-Soviet units can become Guards (should not be possible or should it)?
So many questions so little time [:D]
I guess it's better to ask these now, rather than wait till some campaigns reach 44 and have to deal with them then...
So many questions so little time [:D]
I guess it's better to ask these now, rather than wait till some campaigns reach 44 and have to deal with them then...
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Zhukov would be so pleased to hear that. Not. [:)]
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When the Rumanians changed sides there was probably a security division in the OOB. Once in GAIA's "pot", units get used as and when she sees fit.
It is just a fluke, but it amused me. I was more pleased to see that she can actually get Berlin. This was the very latest version of the code.
edit: I think the point about a Rumanian unit getting guards status may need to be looked at - it looks they are being treated like any other red army unit.
It is just a fluke, but it amused me. I was more pleased to see that she can actually get Berlin. This was the very latest version of the code.
edit: I think the point about a Rumanian unit getting guards status may need to be looked at - it looks they are being treated like any other red army unit.
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Amusing indeed, and not completely without historic merit. Rumanians were employed at the frontlines after they went to the allied side, and were very active in siege of Budapest. Of course, historic hatred for Hungarians played part there, Berlin is something else, but as Rumanians in real war reached deep into Slovakia, it is not entirely impossible that some of their divisions would be employed for security duties in occupied Berlin! [;)]
I visited Bucharest military museum several times, and it's one of the most impressive military museums I've seen, with tons of artifacts, documents, photographs, almost equally, and without emotion, divided between Rumianian "Axis phase" and "Allied phase". They seem to be equally proud of both, which is understandable, to a degree.
I visited Bucharest military museum several times, and it's one of the most impressive military museums I've seen, with tons of artifacts, documents, photographs, almost equally, and without emotion, divided between Rumianian "Axis phase" and "Allied phase". They seem to be equally proud of both, which is understandable, to a degree.
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I had some interesting photos taken in that museum, like flight of Stukas in Rumanian-Soviet service, and Rumanian soldiers still armed with German weapons, like STUG and STG-44 assault rifle, fighting for allied-Soviet side in Hungary and Slovakia. Despite being war-weary to the extreme, Rums always found a new dose of enthusiasm when they had to fight Hungarians, which they hated with passion....
Hopefully we will get to that point in war someday, in our PBEMs [:D]
Hopefully we will get to that point in war someday, in our PBEMs [:D]
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The AI is a she? [:D][:D][:D]
There's explanatory value there somewhere.......
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Her name is GAIA (Gary's AI Adversary).
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Looking at that screenshot again should really put the pucker into an Axis player. Some of those stacks have serious attack CVs, not including all the artillery behind it.



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I covered up the really big ones![:D]
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Yikes.
Those lime-green Germans new units that come later I assume?
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There is lime green Pz Group right from the start (still, nothing compares to eyesore-pink group in the AGN sector).
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Hi all,
Be careful... Ester might hear you... [8D]
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There is lime green Pz Group right from the start (still, nothing compares to eyesore-pink group in the AGN sector).
Be careful... Ester might hear you... [8D]
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ORIGINAL: Oleg Mastruko
There is lime green Pz Group right from the start (still, nothing compares to eyesore-pink group in the AGN sector).
Right, 3rd Panzer but it is all lime green, not lime green on black.
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They are SS elite and SS non-elite attached to 3PZ.
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Ah....looks like I need to pop open the 44 campaign and see what's coming down the turnpike. Don't think I'm going to like it. [:'(]
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