Luke, You Don't Know The Power of, uh, Air Power

[dgaad]

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Air attack on Rabaul , at 21,28

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
A6M3 Zero x 3
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 9
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
F6F Hellcat x 4
F4U-1 Corsair x 38
Beaufighter VIC x 55
P-38G Lightning x 71
B-25J Mitchell x 147
B-17E Fortress x 88

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 2 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 1 damaged
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 10 destroyed
Ki-45 KAIb Nick x 8 damaged
Ki-21 Sally x 9 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally x 11 damaged
J1N1-R Irving x 13 destroyed
J1N1-R Irving x 5 damaged
Ki-49 Helen x 15 destroyed
Ki-49 Helen x 6 damaged
H6K Mavis x 3 destroyed
H6K Mavis x 2 damaged
H8K Emily x 1 destroyed
H8K Emily x 6 damaged
E13A1 Jake x 1 destroyed
D3A Val x 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1 Corsair x 1 damaged
P-38G Lightning x 1 damaged
B-25J Mitchell x 1 damaged

MAJ J. Dobbin of VMF-224 is credited with kill number 5

Japanese Ships
DD Wakazuki, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Hibiki, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Bomb hits 1
CA Chokai, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 2050
Guns lost 6

Runway hits 2
Port hits 3

Attacking Level Bombers:
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
6 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
12 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
4 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 3|
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
4 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
8 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet

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And now, Rabaul, witness the power of this FULLY ARMED AND OPERATIONAL Battle Sta. . . I mean, Air Base.

[Mojo]

Remind me never to play you pbem.

That's just ill

[dgaad]

Beaufighters were set to 1000 feet, Port Attack.

Mitchells were ALL set to 100 feet strafe, Airfield Attack.

B-17s were set to 33,000 feet, Airfield Attack.

P-38s escorted from Lae.
Corsairs came in from Bonis.

Can you imagine what that must have been like at Rabaul that day?




This was Operation Hypocritical Hippocritical.

The goal of the mission was to do the direct opposite of the 1st Tenant of the Hippocratic oath : "First, Do No Harm." The mission slogan was, therefore, "First, Do Harm. A Lot of Harm."

[segorn]

While it is rather ahistorical. if you want to see some true beat-down, try bringing in your B-17s at 1000 feet. They'll take slightly more casualties, but they'll put the base out of comission faster and hence not have to deal with CAP later on.

Everything on the deck appears to be the best way to use level bomber assets in the game in V 1.11.

[Fred98]

From Dgaad’s post:

3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet


3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet



What’s wrong with this:
33 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet

Doesn’t that make more sense?

[dgaad]

FTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/06/43

Air attack on Rabaul , at 21,28

Japanese aircraft

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 36
P-39D Airacobra x 48
P-38G Lightning x 24
B-25J Mitchell x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily x 1 destroyed
Ki-48 Lily x 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 4 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 3 damaged
J1N1-R Irving x 1 destroyed
H6K Mavis x 1 destroyed
H6K Mavis x 1 damaged


Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 173
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 41

Attacking Level Bombers:
6 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet

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Air attack on Rabaul , at 21,28

Japanese aircraft

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 71
P-38G Lightning x 34
F-5A Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 165
B-17E Fortress x 110

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 10 damaged
D3A Val x 2 destroyed
D3A Val x 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally x 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally x 4 damaged
H8K Emily x 4 destroyed
H8K Emily x 10 damaged
J1N1-R Irving x 2 destroyed
J1N1-R Irving x 3 damaged
E13A1 Jake x 4 destroyed
H6K Mavis x 1 destroyed
H6K Mavis x 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily x 2 destroyed
Ki-48 Lily x 2 damaged


Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
BB Ise, Bomb hits 5
DD Wakazuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA Chokai, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
DD Usugumo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 1107
Guns lost 7

Runway hits 2
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 1

Attacking Level Bombers:
6 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
7 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
4 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
12 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
6 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
9 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
8 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
6 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
8 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
5 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 3~
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
9 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
11 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
5 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
10 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
6 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
3 x Beaufighter VIC at 1000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet
9 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet

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Air attack on Rabaul , at 21,28

Japanese aircraft

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 45
F-5A Lightning x 5
PB4Y Liberator x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 1 destroyed


Airbase hits 10
Runway hits 55

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x PB4Y Liberator at 1000 feet
3 x PB4Y Liberator at 1000 feet
6 x PB4Y Liberator at 1000 feet
6 x PB4Y Liberator at 1000 feet
4 x PB4Y Liberator at 1000 feet

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Air attack on Rabaul , at 21,28

Japanese aircraft

Allied aircraft
F4U-1 Corsair x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 101


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Ow.

[zed]

In a pbem game, The allied player is sending in bombers at 1000 feet and these guys dont miss. It must be skip bombing, but I dont know of any defense. The Zero is a lousy interceptor, they rarely do anything more than damage 1 or 2.

[Scouters]

Originally posted by dgaad
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And now, Rabaul, witness the power of this FULLY ARMED AND OPERATIONAL Battle Sta. . . I mean, Air Base.

No! Rabaul is a peaceful base, we have no weapons!

[Admiral DadMan]

Originally posted by dgaad

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/06/43

Air attack on Rabaul , at 21,28

Japanese aircraft

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIC x 71
P-38G Lightning x 34
F-5A Lightning x 2
B-25J Mitchell x 165
B-17E Fortress x 110

Ow.

Talk about delivering the "mail". Sweeet Geezus

Hey, how did you get so many Fortresses?!?!?!

Reminds me of when I dumped 3 BDE's into Rabaul, and forgot to pound the shore guns first. Cost me more than a few transports... I was wondering why the APs were getting all shot to hell just by sitting there innocently... unloading the attack force... gaining 25pts float dmg each day...

[UndercoverNotChickenSalad]

"What’s wrong with this:
33 x B-25J Mitchell at 1000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress at 33000 feet

Doesn’t that make more sense?"

I am curious too as to why these numbers are not consolidated. But I haven't even played the game yet so there could be a logical reason of which I am ignorant.

[Paul Vebber]

The game divides aircraft into "packets" that represent a single engagable group. Eachof these "packets" attack and defend together as a group

[dgaad]

Originally posted by Admiral DadMan
Talk about delivering the "mail". Sweeet Geezus

Hey, how did you get so many Fortresses?!?!?!

I withdrew all 17 squadrons for about 4 months, allowing them to rebuild.

I probably could have taken Rabaul by now, but I'm waiting for a patch that fixes the Rabaul problem.

[Admiral DadMan]

Originally posted by dgaad

I probably could have taken Rabaul by now, but I'm waiting for a patch that fixes the Rabaul problem.

LOL well, you know, the AI as the IJN has been so kind to recall to repair damaged vessels for me playing as the Allied player.... (he he he)

[mdiehl]

"The game divides aircraft into "packets" that represent a single engagable group. Eachof these "packets" attack and defend together as a group."

Should not the B17s attempt to deploy and defend as a box? That'd be, what, up to 9 planes?

[dgaad]

Originally posted by mdiehl
"The game divides aircraft into "packets" that represent a single engagable group. Eachof these "packets" attack and defend together as a group."

Should not the B17s attempt to deploy and defend as a box? That'd be, what, up to 9 planes?

The combat box isn't really needed at Rabaul. Anymore.

[Admiral DadMan]

Originally posted by dgaad
The combat box isn't really needed at Rabaul. Anymore.

What do your bombers use now dgaad, the "Line of ThunderStorms" approach?

Or do you call it the "Duck and Cover" Patrol?

QUAAAAAACK!!!!

[jhdeerslayer]

Dgaad - Where was this attack based out of for curiosity sake?

[thantis]

"You may fire when ready..."

"WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"You are far too trusting......we'll deal with your rebel friends soon enough."

Now why can't they bring out a young Commander Tarkin for Episode 3?

[dgaad]

Originally posted by Admiral DadMan
What do your bombers use now dgaad, the "Line of ThunderStorms" approach?

Or do you call it the "Duck and Cover" Patrol?

QUAAAAAACK!!!!

The entire attack goes in like this :

1. Dozens of P-38s come in first, sweeping the area for stray or exceptionally brave and/or stupid and/or rookie enemy fighter pilots. This lasts about 7 minutes. Occasionally, several enemy pilots are in fact found that are all of the above : stray, brave, stupid, AND rookies.

2. 10 minutes behind the P-38s are the Mitchells. The 140+ come in "Beeswarm" formation, which is really just a cluster in no particular order, but which provides maximum theatrical effect. The Beeswarm looks like a tornado, and the stack of aircraft goes up to about 3000 feet, all the way down to the deck. The Beeswarm begins zeroing in on the airfield and facilities, so it begins to lose visual consistency as it approaches the enemy airfield.

3. Travelling about 30 seconds behind the Mitchells, on either flank of the Beeswarm, are the 50+ Beaufighters. These are spread out in a double stack line, and they converge on the port facilities from two different directions, at an altitude of 1000 feet.

4. The Beeswarm and Beaufighters go in, wreaking havoc. Not a second goes by without one or more 500lb bomb explosions. This goes on for about 3-6 minutes. Some of the aircraft make strafing runs also, blowing up aircraft, fuel tanks, what have you, on the ground.

5. About halfway through the Beeswarm/Beaufighter attack, if you were there, you would begin to hear a loud rumbledrone from above, getting a bit louder with each passing second. It would eventually get so loud that it would seem to you like the ground itself was beginning to shake, except that its already shaking from the numerous 500 lb bomb explosions. Between the explosions, however, you hear what amounts to a horrific sound of about 700 large engines 30,000 feet above, sounding something like a demonic-bestial scream. Looking up, you see what appears to be a large thunderhead. You thank god, because maybe this will drive off the present attackers. You curse god, however, when you realise that the thunderhead is really 150 B-17s who are in fact just now dropping their bombs.

6. The Mitchells and Beaufighters begin to bug out, rather quickly, in all directions. From above the bestial demon scream is now close to driving the remaining souls on the ground totally insane. Now added to this sound, among all others, is a high pitched whine, like a thousand sirens calling you to the utter peace and relief of death. Its the bombs. Hundreds of them. Screaming down at you.

7. Your last thought is of the Emperor. Of eating him, and then cooking your own arm. Because you are now quite insane. Or dead. Which, no longer matters.

[dgaad]

Originally posted by Deerslayer
Dgaad - Where was this attack based out of for curiosity sake?

Lae.