No Invasion of the US Please

[GaryChildress]

When we get to the 1944 & 45 DLCs, I hope we don't have Germany invading Wichita, Kansas or anything like it. A cross Atlantic invasion of the US by Germany is so unrealistic, it would really ruin it for me. I'd much rather see a campaign based more closely on historic events. Even if it means losing the war it would be more interesting to me in the end.

One thing that could be done is in the last DLCs maybe 1944 onward, is to set up the scenarios so that you are losing purchase points in the aggregate. So in other words you start out 1939 building up your core army and then 1944-1945 slowly getting your aremy whittled down. Maybe set it up so that toward the end of the DLCs you are spending most of your purchase points just keeping your core army alive and upgraded with the latest equipment. Perhaps make units disbandable for extra PPs. So for instance in order to upgrade a tiger to a king tiger I might need to disband a unit to get the extra PPs. The final battle could be in the streets of Berlin with whatever is left of your army. You save Fritz's meat market from falling into Russian hands and you get a victory screen saying that Fritz is so grateful that he treats you to a free pot roast. [:D]

That would be far more interesting to me than Germany invading the US or launching an invasion space fleet to Alpha Centauri (which are probably about equally realistic).

[Razz1]

Agreed.

[HansHafen]

Well, history could have been different, that's one of the reasons we study it and replay it. So I would like to see it be possible because I think it would be fun to play.
 
Also, if Germany did defeat UK and Russia, who is to say they don't take those resources and begin to build subs and ships out the wazoo? And offer much support to the Japanese?
 
Looks like it is 2 votes against, one vote for. [:)]

[KerenskyLI]

The plan for the initial DLCs is a purely historical path with only a few individual bonus and optional scenarios being fictional.

Key word on initial.   

If there's enough demand, I'm certain we'll have Allied Campaigns and Fictional Campaigns along the same lines.

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: HansHafen

Well, history could have been different, that's one of the reasons we study it and replay it. So I would like to see it be possible because I think it would be fun to play.

Also, if Germany did defeat UK and Russia, who is to say they don't take those resources and begin to build subs and ships out the wazoo? And offer much support to the Japanese?

Looks like it is 2 votes against, one vote for. [:)]

Germany and Japan together just didn't have the manpower nor resources to win against the USSR, The Commonwealth AND the US. It's a complete non-starter. Had Germany taken Moscow it probably wouldn't have ended the war in Russia. The US dropped the atomic bombs because invading the relatively small island of Japan would have cost millions of lives. Just think how many lives it would have cost Germany to invade the whole continent of N. America? If Germany crossed the Atlantic to invade the US where would they even begin? It would have been impossible to supply such an invasion. Secondly, why would Germany want to put itself through such a fiasco? What possible gain would there be? Even Hitler wasn't quite that crazy. It's complete pie in the sky. Panzers in Atlanta? Hitler would have been better advised to invade the moon. [:D]

[Hanal]

We might as go travel down the Turtledove road and have a bunch of Alien Lizards attack the Axis and Aliies!

[gerg71]

I agree that BOTH types of campaigns would be fun to play.....If we wanted a game that was totally realistic I doubt so many wouldn't care that the way airpower works (compared to other units) makes no sense (planes stay in the air for days at a time without refueling).......Anyway, I get it that even with early major victorys it would have been very dificult for Germany to invade the USA. But it's fun to have the chance to write new history. Although defending Germany would also be a fun test.

[Tac2i]

+1 -- The key to gaming fun for me is this very thing. I don't want to just replay historical events with game rules/mechanics that force me down a certain path. I want a chance to make history. I've purchased both DLCs and I'm enjoying them so far. Would be nice if Panzer Corps had a random game generator like Advanced Tactics Gold (my all time favorite wargame).

ORIGINAL: gerg71
it's fun to have the chance to write new history.

[Dragoon.]

ORIGINAL: KerenskyLI

The plan for the initial DLCs is a purely historical path with only a few individual bonus and optional scenarios being fictional.

Key word on initial.

If there's enough demand, I'm certain we'll have Allied Campaigns and Fictional Campaigns along the same lines.

Well, if you consider doing a allied campaign I would like to see a Russian campaign first.

From a gaming point of view a Russian campaign would be optimal. Because like the Germans their army experienced an significant evolution during the war, offering a great variety in equipment especially tanks, TD, SPG's and planes(with lend lease). Constantly upgrading to better equipment is for me part of the fun.
Also the campaign could be rich in variety and full of exciting twists.
Starting easy with invading Poland, followed by the tough Winter War against Finland, your fight for survival against the Germans, a last stand, counter offensive, just to be rooted again an other last stand and the final push back. And it all ends with a battle against Japan. A symphony of violence, who wouldn't enjoy that?

Unfortunately a well made Russian campaign would be anything than newbie friendly and very hard in difficulty.
You may have the invasion of Poland as an easy entry in the campaign but already the Winter War has to be very hard nut to crack.

[AbeSimpson]

Full scale invasion of US!!!

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: AbeSimpson

Full scale invasion of US!!!

I thought this was Panzer Corps not Fantasy Corps. [:D]

[Razz1]

What do you expect from Homer?

[jomni]

Just don't buy the DLC if it ever comes out.  The good thing about DLC is choice.  I still a haven't bought a single one.

[AbeSimpson]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

ORIGINAL: AbeSimpson

Full scale invasion of US!!!

I thought this was Panzer Corps not Fantasy Corps. [:D]

Damn, and I thought this was a game were you have the choice to alter history. If you can´t stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen.

[Dragoon.]

I thought it was a turn-based strategy game. [X(]

[AbeSimpson]

[:D]

[GaryChildress]

ORIGINAL: AbeSimpson

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

ORIGINAL: AbeSimpson

Full scale invasion of US!!!

I thought this was Panzer Corps not Fantasy Corps. [:D]

Damn, and I thought this was a game were you have the choice to alter history. If you can´t stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen.

Maybe we should have Germany invading Australia then. We can alter history and have Germany take over the entire world. Then the space lizards descend and all havoc breaks loose. There's "altered history" for you. [:D]

[James Ward]

There are two Sea Lion scenarios included. Both are pretty much 'fantasy'. They don't seem to ruin the game.

[vonRocko]

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress

ORIGINAL: AbeSimpson

ORIGINAL: Gary Childress





I thought this was Panzer Corps not Fantasy Corps. [:D]

Damn, and I thought this was a game were you have the choice to alter history. If you can´t stand the heat, keep out of the kitchen.

Maybe we should have Germany invading Australia then. We can alter history and have Germany take over the entire world. Then the space lizards descend and all havoc breaks loose. There's "altered history" for you. [:D]

Now you're being ridiculous! Everyone knows the space lizards where already there.

[AbeSimpson]

Hey, US Gov told us, there are no space lizards and never have been!! Lets keep things straight here! [:D]