Updates for Stock Scenarios

[JWE]

Was tweaking Andy Mac's new Scen02 with the AAA and ASW fixes and thought, heck, why not ! So updated all the Stock GC scenarios with AAA, ASW, Super-E, fixes. All on the Babes website.

Scen01_War in the Pacific_The Full Campaign vj1
Scen02_War in the Pacific_Hakko Ichiu vj1
Scen06_December 8_The Full Campaign vj1
Scen07_War in the Pacific_The Full Campaign (Quiet China) vj1
Scen08_War in the Pacific_Hakko Ichiu (Quiet China) vj1
Scen09_December 8_The Full Campaign (Quiet China) vj1

Simple drop in and replace, using the existing AI files. Not updatable for in-progress games, restart required. Maybe Michaelm will gratuitously stamp them, if you ask nice. Maybe, too, these will be the standard for any future data patch (not likely, but you never know).

Ciao. J

[Dan Nichols]

That's cool. Thank you.

[Rainer]

If you wonder where to get these, they are here
https://sites.google.com/site/dababeswi ... ck-updates

[Andy Mac]

Fantastic ta

[Halsey]

Added to my AE update folder.

Thanks for your fantastic work.[&o]

[SuluSea]

Thanks for the effort John , I'll definately be using these from here on out. [:)]

[oldman45]

Thanks pal!

[Kitakami]

Many thanks! MUCH appreciated!

[John 3rd]

You have TOO MUCH time on your hands Sir. Thanks!

[Andy Mac]

Need to get them stamped somehow before they will update ongoing games

Thanks John (have you asked michael if he can stamp them ?)

[drw61]

Thanks John! Downloading now

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: Andy Mac
Need to get them stamped somehow before they will update ongoing games

Thanks John (have you asked michael if he can stamp them ?)

Nope, haven't looked into stamping for updating. Not sure I want to do that because I would be opening a rather large can of worms [;)]

Ran an update report and got over 300 blivets that exist in the stock locations files: ran it for both stock/stock and my updated/stock and same errors showed up so it's not from the fixes. Many are benign, but a lot are fairly grim; units with level-2 TOEs that have different entries, and are further different from the primary units, and woof !! No wonder Michaelm was going spastic with wierd upgrade stuff.

So am fixing all those, which means LCUs and Ships will have update 'issues', and people being people, they will complain if everything doesn't update just perfect. So I'd just as soon not go there [:D]

[ed] maybe, after the smoke clears, and we see just what's happening, that might be a good thing. Not exactly the right time to do a "data patch 3" if ya know what I mean, but once everything settles, it might be a very nice way to proceed.

[Andy Mac]

Understood John I have run this in my game with pzb wi no I'll effects so far

I would only release as caveat emptor scenes I.e. we won't fix it if something goes wrong but try it if you want type thing

Will attempt to get it stamped and re test impact on ongoing games maybe best not to release not sure yet

Good news.i agree gives us a fantastic baseline for new games


Ta

Andy

[mikkey]

excellent work, thanks JWE. Do you planning update Guadalcanal stock scenario or Marianas scenario?

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: mikkey
excellent work, thanks JWE. Do you planning update Guadalcanal stock scenario or Marianas scenario?

No, not really. Updates are for stock "GC" scenarios, that might not be appropriate for the small scens. We'll think on it, but I really don't believe it would be effective, in the margins. Ciao. J

[mikkey]

oki, thanks for answer JWE

[JWE]

The main reason, mikkey, is that the smaller scenarios were done by different people, waaayy back at the very beginning, when the database wasn't fully established. Terminus did the Thousand Mile War, Joe Wilkerson did the Coral Sea, Nikademus did Guadalcanal, AndyMac did the Marianas, Buccaneer, and Downfall. They all used different versions of 'stuff' in different ways. So getting them all lined up is a big task.

Not to say it can't be done, just that we would have to understand exactly what each person did and why, before we would feel comfortable 'adjusting' it for a stock release. We are working on Babes versions of some of these, as well as a few others of our own. But nothing compatible with 'stock' release, at this time.

[mikkey]

Yes, working with scenarios of different people is not easy. I watch DaBabes scenarios and his various modifications and changes and I would like to try them but Grand Campaign is too big a bite for me. The scale and scope of Guadalcanal and Marianas scenarios are ideal for me. Thanks for the detailed reply JWE a also thanks for modified Guadalcanal scenario.

[JWE]

ORIGINAL: mikkey
Yes, working with scenarios of different people is not easy. I watch DaBabes scenarios and his various modifications and changes and I would like to try them but Grand Campaign is too big a bite for me. The scale and scope of Guadalcanal and Marianas scenarios are ideal for me. Thanks for the detailed reply JWE a also thanks for modified Guadalcanal scenario.

Well, wouldn't you know it, Nik asked if would be possible to update Guadalcanal Scen04, and I believe Terminus has no issues with updating 1,000 Mile War Scen05, so it looks like you get your wish, mikkey [8D]

[ed] won't be the Babes version, but it will have all the AAA and ASW goodies (just like the GC scenarios) and be organized so they can get any future updates as a simple "drop in" (just like the GC scenarios).

[Keifer]

ORIGINAL: JWE

Was tweaking Andy Mac's new Scen02 with the AAA and ASW fixes and thought, heck, why not ! So updated all the Stock GC scenarios with AAA, ASW, Super-E, fixes. All on the Babes website.

Is there a link to what the fixes are? and what gameplay effect they have? I couldn't find an obvious post searching the forum.

Am restarting an AI game as Allies using the new scenario #2.

Thanks, Keith