Katherine, OZ - supplies

[KPAX]

Darwin was taken in Jan 1942 and I have held him at Katherine. That is the only spot he has and supplies in OZ are decent.

I cannot get any supplies to run up there. I have stockpiled on, but none move.

What is the deal?

[wdolson]

Supply is moving down a long dirt road from Alice Springs. Only a trickle of supply is capable of moving down that road.

Bill

[JeffroK]

Only way is to fly it in , generally from Alice Springs.

Start chewing at the edges, either Pt Hedland, Broome, Wyndham or Normanton, Groote Eylandt, Gove and make him nervous about his reAR.

[Reg]

Even in the eighties, you couldn't get a pizza (or anything else for that matter) in Katherine on a Saturday night after 8pm.....

[Reg]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

Supply is moving down a long dirt road from Alice Springs. Only a trickle of supply is capable of moving down that road.

Bill

I don't think you could have even called it a road until the US Army ran a grader over it.....

[wdolson]

I know someone who was a cop out there about 6 years ago. He and another cop were the only two in an area the size of Texas. He was based in Balgo. Taking a prisoner to the "local" jail was an over night trip. Even in this century, the roads became impassible by any vehicle in the rainy season and a 4 wheel drive on even the best roads was a necessity.

When he came to the US and drove in snow and ice for the first time he thought it was a piece of cake compared to those roads.

Bill

[KPAX]

Awesome advise.

Gosh I want to visit OZ some day. We, Yanks love you guys! We are so much a like and consider you a great allie.

Thanks you OZ.

Back to the post .... So, he will have a very hard time supplying his troops as well, right? There are really nothing there which will support him. So, he has to ship it in as well?

[crsutton]

The good news is that he will have just as much trouble pushing supplies past Katherine should it fall. But it is tough to support any more than a couple of divisions over the overland route. If you want to retake Darwin in 43 then you had best plan on going the sea route.

[Schanilec]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I know someone who was a cop out there about 6 years ago. He and another cop were the only two in an area the size of Texas. He was based in Balgo. Taking a prisoner to the "local" jail was an over night trip. Even in this century, the roads became impassible by any vehicle in the rainy season and a 4 wheel drive on even the best roads was a necessity.

When he came to the US and drove in snow and ice for the first time he thought it was a piece of cake compared to those roads.

Bill

Of course that depends on where in the country the snow and ice is.[:D]

[Chris21wen]

Put the AUS command HQ in Alice. Set supply in Alice to max. This will then get to Katherine and beyond when needed but it is down a dirt track. Katherine should be set to stockpile.

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

Put the AUS command HQ in Alice. Set supply in Alice to max. This will then get to Katherine and beyond when needed but it is down a dirt track. Katherine should be set to stockpile.

I've been able to build up a massive stock pile in Alice Springs doing this. And I have engineers in Alice,Katherine, and in Tenant creek building like mad. I still don't have much in either Tenant creek or Katherine and have been flying supplies like mad into both. Perhaps I should put the head quarters in Katherine or Tenants? [&:]

[AW1Steve]

The Australian Army surveyed the route for a railroad in spring 1942. There is one there now. Surely this route can't be worse than the ALCAN highway? [&:]

[Reg]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

The Australian Army surveyed the route for a railroad in spring 1942. There is one there now. Surely this route can't be worse than the ALCAN highway? [&:]

Technically it's not that difficult (apart from the huge distances). The issue was resources. There just wasn't the engineers, plant, equipment and materials (& time) in country for such a massive undertaking. 2000km of virgin railway... How long did it take to get a railway across America?

Whilst the additional resources could have been shipped in, it would have diverted resources from elsewhere and obviously wasn't considered a high enough priority. After all Darwin is not on the direct route to Tokyo.

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I know someone who was a cop out there about 6 years ago. He and another cop were the only two in an area the size of Texas. He was based in Balgo. Taking a prisoner to the "local" jail was an over night trip. Even in this century, the roads became impassible by any vehicle in the rainy season and a 4 wheel drive on even the best roads was a necessity.

When he came to the US and drove in snow and ice for the first time he thought it was a piece of cake compared to those roads.

Bill

ORIGINAL: Schanilec
Of course that depends on where in the country the snow and ice is.[:D]

Mt Hood, Cascade Range in Oregon. He was going to Timberline Lodge at Christmas time. Timberline is high enough altitude it's the only year round ski area in North America. I've been there in August. The snow line was above the lodge, but it was only a short hike to get to it.

Bill

[Chris21wen]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: Chris H

Put the AUS command HQ in Alice. Set supply in Alice to max. This will then get to Katherine and beyond when needed but it is down a dirt track. Katherine should be set to stockpile.

I've been able to build up a massive stock pile in Alice Springs doing this. And I have engineers in Alice,Katherine, and in Tenant creek building like mad. I still don't have much in either Tenant creek or Katherine and have been flying supplies like mad into both. Perhaps I should put the head quarters in Katherine or Tenants? [&:]

If you're building you won't get much, whatever gets there by the dirt track is mostly used by the building. In my game, all-be-it against the AI and without an invasion it worked but with some experimentation.

I had a command HQ in Alice and a Corp HQ in Darwin, I increased supply to all the bases in N Aus connected by the track (nine in total) but not by the same amount using percentage/step. Those at the end of the line had the least (Broome, Wyndham, Darwin), those closest to Alice (Tennant) most. I used these setting in supply request steps

Broome, Wyndham, Dawrin 1 (set to stockpile)
Derby 2
Nookanbah 3
Fenton 2
Kathering 3
Daly Waters 4
Tennant 8

I was able to build up supply to all bases in North Aus doing this despite building, it wasn't quick but it did work. I aslo flew stuff in.

[Dobey455]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I know someone who was a cop out there about 6 years ago. He and another cop were the only two in an area the size of Texas. He was based in Balgo. Taking a prisoner to the "local" jail was an over night trip. Even in this century, the roads became impassible by any vehicle in the rainy season and a 4 wheel drive on even the best roads was a necessity.

When he came to the US and drove in snow and ice for the first time he thought it was a piece of cake compared to those roads.

Bill

I've supported IT for the Police out at Balgo. Even as little as 18 months ago if a phone line goes down out there they are without comms for a good week, or more. The telco provider (Telstra's) response to our query about why they couldn't meet their SLA to restore service was "Well, what do you expect us to do, send a helicopter out there?"

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

Put the AUS command HQ in Alice. Set supply in Alice to max. This will then get to Katherine and beyond when needed but it is down a dirt track. Katherine should be set to stockpile.

Yes, this all helps but you still have to be careful of how many troops you plan on supporting. Also if you set Katherine to stockpile, no supply will leave Katherine so you will be less able to supply troops anywhere near Katherine.

[Cap Mandrake]

I agree with CR. PRETEND you are going to attack Darwin from the South, induce the defenders to move South and then take it by sea. [:)] Of course, you need to do a little prep work first.

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

I know someone who was a cop out there about 6 years ago. He and another cop were the only two in an area the size of Texas. He was based in Balgo. Taking a prisoner to the "local" jail was an over night trip. Even in this century, the roads became impassible by any vehicle in the rainy season and a 4 wheel drive on even the best roads was a necessity.

When he came to the US and drove in snow and ice for the first time he thought it was a piece of cake compared to those roads.

Bill

ORIGINAL: Dobey
I've supported IT for the Police out at Balgo. Even as little as 18 months ago if a phone line goes down out there they are without comms for a good week, or more. The telco provider (Telstra's) response to our query about why they couldn't meet their SLA to restore service was "Well, what do you expect us to do, send a helicopter out there?"

Small world. Even most Australians haven't heard of Balgo. The guy I knew was named Nigel Butler. He left around 2006 or 2007. He has some funny stories about his time in the middle of the outback.

Bill

[jmalter]

ORIGINAL: crsutton
Yes, this all helps but you still have to be careful of how many troops you plan on supporting. Also if you set Katherine to stockpile, no supply will leave Katherine so you will be less able to supply troops anywhere near Katherine.

Alfred corrected me on this awhile back - if base is set to stockpile supply, it WILL continue to supply troops in the field in nearby hexes, but it WON'T xfer supply to other bases.

if you click on a base hex and hit hotkey '5', numbers will appear, that'll give you an idea of how much supply a hex can draw from the base. these #s appear to be percentages, but i don't know what they are percentaging!