The first ever PH attack I have been on the wrong end of in AE.......

[Miller]

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Morning Air attack on Pearl Harbor , at 180,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 93 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 68
B5N2 Kate x 144
D3A1 Val x 126

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed by flak
B5N2 Kate: 6 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 14 damaged
D3A1 Val: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 64 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 7 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 111 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 18 destroyed on ground
F4F-3 Wildcat: 10 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed on ground
A-20A Havoc: 19 damaged
A-20A Havoc: 3 destroyed on ground
SBD-1 Dauntless: 29 damaged
SBD-1 Dauntless: 6 destroyed on ground
B-18A Bolo: 47 damaged
B-18A Bolo: 8 destroyed on ground
B-17D Fortress: 52 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 6 destroyed on ground
B-17E Fortress: 17 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed on ground
P-36A Mohawk: 21 damaged
P-36A Mohawk: 3 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 5 damaged
O-47A: 2 destroyed on ground
R3D-2: 1 destroyed on ground
C-33: 2 damaged
C-33: 1 destroyed on ground
SNJ-3 Texan: 3 damaged
OS2U-3 Kingfisher: 3 destroyed

Allied Ships
AV Curtiss, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB West Virginia, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
BB California, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Oklahoma, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
BB Pennsylvania, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Tennessee, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
BB Maryland, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
BB Arizona, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
PC Tiger, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Detroit, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
DM Montgomery
CM Oglala
DD Helm, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AD Whitney, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DM Ramsay, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
DD Jarvis, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Ralph Talbot, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Helena, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Dolphin, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
DD Bagley, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DM Sicard, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL St. Louis, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Dale, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CA New Orleans, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PT-22, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CL Raleigh, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Shaw, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Allen, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Farragut, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Schley, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Downes, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AM Vireo, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
AV Wright, Bomb hits 1
AO Neosho, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 45
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 74

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
24 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
26 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
17 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
4 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
15 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
18 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 1 x 800 kg AP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
27 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
11 x A6M2 Zero bombing from 100 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
14 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
13 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
5 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Port Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
8 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Airfield Attack: 1 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
18th PG/73rd PS with P-40B Warhawk (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000
Raid is overhead

Training flight from 18th PG/73rd PS has been caught up in attack
Magazine explodes on BB Oklahoma



I'm in shock lol.......

[Sardaukar]

You really had some interesting die rolls there... [X(]

[Shellshock]

Ouch. [X(]

Flight Leader to Admiral Nagumo. Third strike not necessary. Party with sake instead.

[HexHead]

Oh, don't feel bad. I resurrected a PbeM game that Lokasenna and I are restarting from late Jan 42 and the original IJ player had gotten some really good bounces on his initial (ahistorical) attack.

Six BBs gone, sunk, off the board, bye-bye.

That hurts & puts a crimp in Surface capabilities for months and months.

[Miller]

49 hits from 67 torpedoes launched[X(]

[Capt Hornblower]

11 Zeros destroyed by flak? Seems like the AA gunners should have been looking to the bombers.

(This kind of result is why I prefer to start on Dec. 8.)

[seille]

The number of torpedo hits is really awesome. A dream for the jap player.

[Chickenboy]

Sorry, Miller. But as a JFB, I'm obliged to say:

[HexHead]

Well, I'm not laughing in this revived PbeM against Lokasenna (IJ). Having six BBs gone from Day One really crimps. I have to be much more careful with CA/CL TFs, just one IJ BB with a CA or two can cream surface forces - in late Jan 42, I think I have maybe five BB/BCs available, total.

The OPs results are pretty crippling, if not almost worse than my results.

[Christopher John]

C-in-C Combined Fleet Yamamoto to Admiral Nagumo
"You left some USN BBs a float...be a nice chap and finish the job !!!"

Looks like those extra torpedoes practices paid off; nice strike ratio 49:67 [:D]

I am sure payback will come soon enough...

[tocaff]

It could always be worse, especially when almost everything was on target.

[cohimbra]

ORIGINAL: Capt Hornblower

11 Zeros destroyed by flak? Seems like the AA gunners should have been looking to the bombers.

(This kind of result is why I prefer to start on Dec. 8.)

This is because the default setting of a pair of carrier Zero squadron is: Airfield
Attack, alt.100...they strafe very very low the field, so they can take heavy damage
from AA defense.

[spence]

Wow...

You only sank or damaged 2 and a half times as many ships as historically and lost damn near half as many planes.

I really feel for you. NOT

[Miller]

ORIGINAL: spence

Wow...

You only sank or damaged 2 and a half times as many ships as historically and lost damn near half as many planes.

I really feel for you. NOT

Erm......I'm the Allies.

[Lokasenna]

ORIGINAL: HexHead

Well, I'm not laughing in this revived PbeM against Lokasenna (IJ). Having six BBs gone from Day One really crimps. I have to be much more careful with CA/CL TFs, just one IJ BB with a CA or two can cream surface forces - in late Jan 42, I think I have maybe five BB/BCs available, total.

The OPs results are pretty crippling, if not almost worse than my results.

Good to know! [;)] From the sunk ships list, it didn't look like the initial strike was all that great.

For the OP: Only 2 BBs sunk outright, but those other 6...are you going to lose any of them to damage control rolls?

I'd say the 5 DDs you lost hurts even more than the 2 BBs. Any non-sunk BBs on day 1 is just a bonus, but the stock of DDs you have in December is absolutely precious if you want to send anything anywhere.

Think of it as a challenge!

[HexHead]

I don't mind you knowing - I get some decent stuff the next few months, but I have to be careful about surface placements for quite a while.

Can never have enough destroyers, that's for sure.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: HexHead

Well, I'm not laughing in this revived PbeM against Lokasenna (IJ). Having six BBs gone from Day One really crimps. I have to be much more careful with CA/CL TFs, just one IJ BB with a CA or two can cream surface forces - in late Jan 42, I think I have maybe five BB/BCs available, total.

The OPs results are pretty crippling, if not almost worse than my results.

Hang in there. Come mid 44 you will be wondering if you will ever lose another surface fight.

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

ORIGINAL: HexHead

Well, I'm not laughing in this revived PbeM against Lokasenna (IJ). Having six BBs gone from Day One really crimps. I have to be much more careful with CA/CL TFs, just one IJ BB with a CA or two can cream surface forces - in late Jan 42, I think I have maybe five BB/BCs available, total.

The OPs results are pretty crippling, if not almost worse than my results.

Good to know! [;)] From the sunk ships list, it didn't look like the initial strike was all that great.

For the OP: Only 2 BBs sunk outright, but those other 6...are you going to lose any of them to damage control rolls?

I'd say the 5 DDs you lost hurts even more than the 2 BBs. Any non-sunk BBs on day 1 is just a bonus, but the stock of DDs you have in December is absolutely precious if you want to send anything anywhere.

Think of it as a challenge!

I suspect he will end up losing all eight of them.

[Lokasenna]

Idunno, depending on the rolls... Arizona is the only one with heavy fires/heavy damage. With Allied DC On, a couple of those might live. But won't see action for 2+ years.

[dr.hal]

I would still go after Manila!