Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
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Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
Ok, 2nd attempt at the Marianas islands. The assumption on this run is that the allied code breakers were successful in obtaining the exact OOB of the Japanese on the islands and the knowledge that the KB cannot reach the theater for at least 2 weeks.
This scenario really isn't about a fair fight. The KB does not have the firepower to go head to head against the Allied Air Fleet. The scenario gets its interest from the limited time frame to take the islands. It is more about the efficient movement of amphibious forces and supply than anything else.
After looking at the map and evaluating everything I agree that taking Pagan would be an asset even though point wise it is not worth addressing. Therefore, my first troops will leave directly for Pagan and the second group of troops will head for Tinian.
In the previous game I planned on staging troops out of Makin & Tarawa but during this game all troops are heading directly for the Marianas islands in combat mode. This position saves a number of days converting troops from combat mode to strategic mode.
On the first turn all of the troops do not have supply at Pearl Harbor. I am going to concentrate on the 8 regiments that do have supply. I am loading the 6 regiments attached to the V US Amphib Corps along with the amphibious HQ force. These forces will take the island of Pagan. That is about 860 points of AV versus the 100 AV of the troops on Pagan. I loaded them all on APA and APD ships due to the speed of these craft. It will be important to take out this island quickly so I can concentrate my fleet and air cover in one hex rather than 2.
I put together 3 Air Combat TF's containing all of the CV's and CVL's at my disposal. This fleet is going to sail west as fast as possible to do a little raiding before the transport fleets need air cover. Submarines have been dispatched. I have set Eniwetok as their base.
Setting the bombers on Eniwetok & Roi-Namur to airfield bombing and choosing night bombing because I dont really need to deal with the fighter CAP.
I set the special troops HQ, engineer, and other forces I know will be moved in transport mode to strategic movement.
At this point I believe that trying to load more troops than the 8 regiments might be counterproductive as the port size has been exceeded so it is likely time to end the turn. I also know that quite a number of amphibious ships will be arriving within the next 2 days.
This scenario really isn't about a fair fight. The KB does not have the firepower to go head to head against the Allied Air Fleet. The scenario gets its interest from the limited time frame to take the islands. It is more about the efficient movement of amphibious forces and supply than anything else.
After looking at the map and evaluating everything I agree that taking Pagan would be an asset even though point wise it is not worth addressing. Therefore, my first troops will leave directly for Pagan and the second group of troops will head for Tinian.
In the previous game I planned on staging troops out of Makin & Tarawa but during this game all troops are heading directly for the Marianas islands in combat mode. This position saves a number of days converting troops from combat mode to strategic mode.
On the first turn all of the troops do not have supply at Pearl Harbor. I am going to concentrate on the 8 regiments that do have supply. I am loading the 6 regiments attached to the V US Amphib Corps along with the amphibious HQ force. These forces will take the island of Pagan. That is about 860 points of AV versus the 100 AV of the troops on Pagan. I loaded them all on APA and APD ships due to the speed of these craft. It will be important to take out this island quickly so I can concentrate my fleet and air cover in one hex rather than 2.
I put together 3 Air Combat TF's containing all of the CV's and CVL's at my disposal. This fleet is going to sail west as fast as possible to do a little raiding before the transport fleets need air cover. Submarines have been dispatched. I have set Eniwetok as their base.
Setting the bombers on Eniwetok & Roi-Namur to airfield bombing and choosing night bombing because I dont really need to deal with the fighter CAP.
I set the special troops HQ, engineer, and other forces I know will be moved in transport mode to strategic movement.
At this point I believe that trying to load more troops than the 8 regiments might be counterproductive as the port size has been exceeded so it is likely time to end the turn. I also know that quite a number of amphibious ships will be arriving within the next 2 days.

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
You might also want to look at the air unit commanders. Some of them are not very good. Same with sub commanders.
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ― Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
1st turn.
Nothing happened. My air task force only got 1 hex due to Ops from refuelling.
Assembled Amphibious task force of 6 regiments along with 2 TF's of 5 CVE each, a bombardment TF, and an ASW TF and set them to attack Pagan.
Loaded the 27th inf div, the 306th RCT & 111 RCT & several tank battalions.
Nothing happened. My air task force only got 1 hex due to Ops from refuelling.
Assembled Amphibious task force of 6 regiments along with 2 TF's of 5 CVE each, a bombardment TF, and an ASW TF and set them to attack Pagan.
Loaded the 27th inf div, the 306th RCT & 111 RCT & several tank battalions.

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
2nd Turn.
Killed a couple LB's of the IJN near Tinian.
1st TF is 9 days out from Pagan.
Loading 2nd TF.
May 24, 1944
End of Turn.
Killed another couple LB near tinian.
Liberators are conducting night airfield attacks on Truk & Ponape. They are getting no hits at 15K. Lowering to 10K.
Killed a couple LB's of the IJN near Tinian.
1st TF is 9 days out from Pagan.
Loading 2nd TF.
May 24, 1944
End of Turn.
Killed another couple LB near tinian.
Liberators are conducting night airfield attacks on Truk & Ponape. They are getting no hits at 15K. Lowering to 10K.

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
May 25, 1944 Day 4
The main Air TF did not move like I wanted it to. I think it was due to following and/or having a minesweeping TF follow them. Disengaging that force.
Combining the ships for fleet #2 and setting Eniwetok as the destination.
End of Turn
Japanese CMc took 2 torpedo hits near Guam.
The main Air TF did not move like I wanted it to. I think it was due to following and/or having a minesweeping TF follow them. Disengaging that force.
Combining the ships for fleet #2 and setting Eniwetok as the destination.
End of Turn
Japanese CMc took 2 torpedo hits near Guam.

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
May 26, 1944 Day 5
End of Turn.
May 27, 1944 Day 6
End of Turn.
May 28, 1944 Day 7
End of Turn.
Japanese PB takes a torpedo near Babeldaob
Japanese E takes a torpedo hit near Yap
May 29, 1944 Day 8
End of Turn.
Exciting eh??
Japanese PB hit by 1 torpedo near Baeldaob
May 30, 1944 Day 9
End of Turn.
Japanese xAK takes 6 shell hits & 3 torpedo hits near Ulithi.
May 31, 1944 Day 10
Approaching Pagan islands, 23 hexes to go. Taskforce seems to go 7 or 8 per day.
End of Turn.
Japanese PB hit by torpedo near Yap
Pagan task force 15 hexes out.
No air attacks surprisingly. Maybe they are waiting to see the whites of my eyes...
June 1, 1944 day 11
Loading more support troops at PH.
End of Turn.
June 2, 1944 day 12
No air attacks yet. 8 hexes away from Pagan.
End of turn.
Japanese xAKL takes 2 torpedo hits near Ulithi
End of Turn.
May 27, 1944 Day 6
End of Turn.
May 28, 1944 Day 7
End of Turn.
Japanese PB takes a torpedo near Babeldaob
Japanese E takes a torpedo hit near Yap
May 29, 1944 Day 8
End of Turn.
Exciting eh??
Japanese PB hit by 1 torpedo near Baeldaob
May 30, 1944 Day 9
End of Turn.
Japanese xAK takes 6 shell hits & 3 torpedo hits near Ulithi.
May 31, 1944 Day 10
Approaching Pagan islands, 23 hexes to go. Taskforce seems to go 7 or 8 per day.
End of Turn.
Japanese PB hit by torpedo near Yap
Pagan task force 15 hexes out.
No air attacks surprisingly. Maybe they are waiting to see the whites of my eyes...
June 1, 1944 day 11
Loading more support troops at PH.
End of Turn.
June 2, 1944 day 12
No air attacks yet. 8 hexes away from Pagan.
End of turn.
Japanese xAKL takes 2 torpedo hits near Ulithi

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 3, 1944 Day 13
Absoulutely no Japanese air attacks yet.
I havent tried to use my air fleets to attack anything.
Going to drop the troops straight onto Pagan without bombardment, etc.
Pre-invasion off Pagan 125 coastal guns shots fired in defense.
Allies lose 47 troops 0/1,0/12,0/0
TF 28 unloading over beach. Losses 1774 1/365,2/324,0/0,1/193,1/112
2nd Barrage
Allied losses 55 0/0,1/9,0/0
Ok, finally noticed by the Japanese air force...
1st PM assault
125 Zero's & 25 Judy's vs 69 Wildcat & 526 Hellcat
1 judy got through surprisingly
7 zero's destroyed, 17 Judy's destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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2nd attack 7 jill's
4 Jill's destroyed
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3rd barrage at Pagan 75 guns fired, 35 casualties
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Japanese Bombardment attack at Pagan
Attacking force 1538 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, AV 102
Defending force 18,433 troops, 454 guns, 260 vehicles, AV 530
7 allied casualties
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June 4, 1944 Turn 14
Set shock attack up on Pagan
Set Crusier fleet to bombard Pagan
I have 6 regiments unloaded on Pagan with very little disruption but about 50-60% TOE.
End of Turn.
Invasion support off pagan - 30 casualties
Bombardment at Pagan
Japanese ground losses 254 casualties 0/4,1/24,1/5,1/8
Invasion support off pagan - 41 casualties
"" - 25 casualties
Allied Sub hits Japanese sub with 2 torpedoes near Iwo Jima
Japanese xAK is hit with 1 shell, 3 torpedoes near Ulithi
Japanese ACM hit with 1 torpedo near Yap.
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1st Japanese air assault
M2 Zero 20, M5 Zero 24, Sen Baku 19, betty 5
68 Wildcat, 535 Hellcat
One betty slips through and torpedoes an allied APA
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2nd attack 9 zero 24 judy
3 zero's destroyed, 11 judy destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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3rd attack 30 zero's 3 betty's 5 jills, 15 betty's
13 zero's destroyed, 1 jill destroyed, 6 betty's destroyed
1 wildcat destroyed, 1 hellcat destroyed
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PM
1st Japanese air assault
9 M2 zero, 6 sen baku, 19 m5 zero
50 wildcat, 353 hellcat
Japanese losses
1 m2 zero destroyed, 1 sen baku destroyed, 2 M5 zero destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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Japanese 2nd attack 7 zero, 9 judy
2 zero destroyed, 1 judy destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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3rd attack
6 zero, 3 betty, 3 jill, 8 betty
Losses
1 zero, 1 jill, 3 betty
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4th attack 6 zero, 3 betty
losses
3 zero, 2 betty
1 hellcat
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invasion assault - 30 allied losses
Japanese bombardment of Pagan
Attacking force 1538 troops 19 guns 2 vehicles AV 98
Defending force 18582 troops, 454 guns, 259 vehicles AV 551
7 allied casualties
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Allied Shock attack at Pagan
Attacking Force 18575 troops, 454 guns, 259 vehicles AV 550
Defending force 4552 troops 84 guns 2 vehicles AV 98
Adjusted 514/53
Allied Assault odds 9 to 1 (fort lvl 4)
Allied forces CAPTURE Pagan!!!
Japanese ground losses 823 6/62,2/16,34/0,9/14,2/0
Allied Ground Losses 122 0/15,1/2,0/4
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Absoulutely no Japanese air attacks yet.
I havent tried to use my air fleets to attack anything.
Going to drop the troops straight onto Pagan without bombardment, etc.
Pre-invasion off Pagan 125 coastal guns shots fired in defense.
Allies lose 47 troops 0/1,0/12,0/0
TF 28 unloading over beach. Losses 1774 1/365,2/324,0/0,1/193,1/112
2nd Barrage
Allied losses 55 0/0,1/9,0/0
Ok, finally noticed by the Japanese air force...
1st PM assault
125 Zero's & 25 Judy's vs 69 Wildcat & 526 Hellcat
1 judy got through surprisingly
7 zero's destroyed, 17 Judy's destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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2nd attack 7 jill's
4 Jill's destroyed
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3rd barrage at Pagan 75 guns fired, 35 casualties
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Japanese Bombardment attack at Pagan
Attacking force 1538 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, AV 102
Defending force 18,433 troops, 454 guns, 260 vehicles, AV 530
7 allied casualties
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June 4, 1944 Turn 14
Set shock attack up on Pagan
Set Crusier fleet to bombard Pagan
I have 6 regiments unloaded on Pagan with very little disruption but about 50-60% TOE.
End of Turn.
Invasion support off pagan - 30 casualties
Bombardment at Pagan
Japanese ground losses 254 casualties 0/4,1/24,1/5,1/8
Invasion support off pagan - 41 casualties
"" - 25 casualties
Allied Sub hits Japanese sub with 2 torpedoes near Iwo Jima
Japanese xAK is hit with 1 shell, 3 torpedoes near Ulithi
Japanese ACM hit with 1 torpedo near Yap.
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1st Japanese air assault
M2 Zero 20, M5 Zero 24, Sen Baku 19, betty 5
68 Wildcat, 535 Hellcat
One betty slips through and torpedoes an allied APA
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2nd attack 9 zero 24 judy
3 zero's destroyed, 11 judy destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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3rd attack 30 zero's 3 betty's 5 jills, 15 betty's
13 zero's destroyed, 1 jill destroyed, 6 betty's destroyed
1 wildcat destroyed, 1 hellcat destroyed
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PM
1st Japanese air assault
9 M2 zero, 6 sen baku, 19 m5 zero
50 wildcat, 353 hellcat
Japanese losses
1 m2 zero destroyed, 1 sen baku destroyed, 2 M5 zero destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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Japanese 2nd attack 7 zero, 9 judy
2 zero destroyed, 1 judy destroyed
1 hellcat destroyed
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3rd attack
6 zero, 3 betty, 3 jill, 8 betty
Losses
1 zero, 1 jill, 3 betty
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4th attack 6 zero, 3 betty
losses
3 zero, 2 betty
1 hellcat
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invasion assault - 30 allied losses
Japanese bombardment of Pagan
Attacking force 1538 troops 19 guns 2 vehicles AV 98
Defending force 18582 troops, 454 guns, 259 vehicles AV 551
7 allied casualties
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Allied Shock attack at Pagan
Attacking Force 18575 troops, 454 guns, 259 vehicles AV 550
Defending force 4552 troops 84 guns 2 vehicles AV 98
Adjusted 514/53
Allied Assault odds 9 to 1 (fort lvl 4)
Allied forces CAPTURE Pagan!!!
Japanese ground losses 823 6/62,2/16,34/0,9/14,2/0
Allied Ground Losses 122 0/15,1/2,0/4
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 5, 1944 Turn 15
Tinian attack force is about 4-5 days out. Going to hopefully clear Pagan island quickly enough to divert troops to aid in the amphibious assault.
End Turn.
Allied Assault at Pagan
Direct attack odds 7 to 1
Japanese losses 462 of 3802
Allied losses 146 of 18650
2 units wiped out at Pagan.
Tinian attack force is about 4-5 days out. Going to hopefully clear Pagan island quickly enough to divert troops to aid in the amphibious assault.
End Turn.
Allied Assault at Pagan
Direct attack odds 7 to 1
Japanese losses 462 of 3802
Allied losses 146 of 18650
2 units wiped out at Pagan.

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 6, 1944 Turn 16
Diverting main Air TF to meet the incoming Tinian invasion force.
End of turn.
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1st Japanese assault
M2 Zero 11, Sen Baku 5, M5 Zero 31, M1 Betty 5, M2 Betty 9
Wildcat 58, hellcat 91
Japanese Aircraft Losses
M2 Zero 5, Sen Baku 1, M5 Zero 1, M1 Betty 1, M2 Betty 6
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2nd Japanese assault
M5 Zero 17, M2 Betty 4, M1 Betty 12
Japanese Losses
M5 Zero 6, M1 Betty 4, M2 Betty 1
1 Hellcat destroyed
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3rd Japanese assault
5 Judy
1 judy destroyed
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Allied attack at Pagan
Allied assault odds 31-1
Japanese ground losses 179 out of 2038
Allied ground losses 89 0/4,0/3,0/2
1 unit wiped out at Pagan.
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Diverting main Air TF to meet the incoming Tinian invasion force.
End of turn.
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1st Japanese assault
M2 Zero 11, Sen Baku 5, M5 Zero 31, M1 Betty 5, M2 Betty 9
Wildcat 58, hellcat 91
Japanese Aircraft Losses
M2 Zero 5, Sen Baku 1, M5 Zero 1, M1 Betty 1, M2 Betty 6
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2nd Japanese assault
M5 Zero 17, M2 Betty 4, M1 Betty 12
Japanese Losses
M5 Zero 6, M1 Betty 4, M2 Betty 1
1 Hellcat destroyed
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3rd Japanese assault
5 Judy
1 judy destroyed
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Allied attack at Pagan
Allied assault odds 31-1
Japanese ground losses 179 out of 2038
Allied ground losses 89 0/4,0/3,0/2
1 unit wiped out at Pagan.
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June 7, 1944 Turn 17
By now the KB should be on the map. However, it is not much of a threat to me unless I run low on sorties and since my main task force has not engaged anything yet I am in great shape.
Loading 4 regiments from Pagan to participate in the invasion of Tinian.
Tinian task force out 3 days.
End of Turn.
Allied Attack at Pagan
28 to 1
Japanese ground losses 67 out of 1061
Allied ground losses 37
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By now the KB should be on the map. However, it is not much of a threat to me unless I run low on sorties and since my main task force has not engaged anything yet I am in great shape.
Loading 4 regiments from Pagan to participate in the invasion of Tinian.
Tinian task force out 3 days.
End of Turn.
Allied Attack at Pagan
28 to 1
Japanese ground losses 67 out of 1061
Allied ground losses 37
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 8, 1944 Turn 18
Pagan task forces loaded about 1/3. Set them to load troops only.
End of Turn.
Night attack on Pagan by 3 betty's. No damage
Allied assault on Pagan - 43 to 1
Japanese losses 89 of 961
no allied losses
Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Pagan
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Pagan task forces loaded about 1/3. Set them to load troops only.
End of Turn.
Night attack on Pagan by 3 betty's. No damage
Allied assault on Pagan - 43 to 1
Japanese losses 89 of 961
no allied losses
Japanese Unit(s) surrounded at Pagan
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 9, 1944 Turn 19
1st japanese attack
17 M2 Zero's, 10 Sen Baku, 54 M5 Zero's, 15 Betty
Hellcat 349
Losses
M2 - 3, Sen Baku - 6, M5 Zero 3, Betty 5
Hellcat 1
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2nd assault
3 M2 zero, 3 Sen Baku, 10 M5 Zero, 12 Judy
Losses 1 m2 Zero, 3 M5 Zero, 3 Judy
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3rd assault
3 M2 Zero, 1 Sen Baku, 7 M5 Zero, 25 Judy
Losses
1 M2 Zero, 2 M5 Zero, 11 Judy
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Other minor air attacks with no success for the Japanese
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Allied air attack on naval TF
Unfortunately for the Japanese a supply convoy sailed too close while trying to get to the marinaras islands.
Japanese aircraft M2 Zero 5, M5 Zero 6
Allied Aircraft 15 Hellcat, 48 1C helldiver, 28 3 hell diver, 29 Avenger
Japanese Aircraft lost 1 M5 Zero
Allied Aircraft lost Hellcat 3, Helldiver 2, Helldiver 1
Japanese Ships
xAK Daihachikyo Maru BH 3, TH4 - Sunk
xAKL Kosho Maru BH 4 - Sunk
xAKL Noshiro Maru #2, TH 1 - Sunk
xAKL Hagoromo Maru, BH 3 - Sunk
xAKL Toshi Maru, BH 9 - Sunk
E Tsubame, TH 1 - Sunk
PB Toshio Maru #3, BH 1 - Sunk
PB Tama Maru #8, BH 1 - Sunk
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Minor Japanese air attacks with no damage
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1st japanese attack
17 M2 Zero's, 10 Sen Baku, 54 M5 Zero's, 15 Betty
Hellcat 349
Losses
M2 - 3, Sen Baku - 6, M5 Zero 3, Betty 5
Hellcat 1
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2nd assault
3 M2 zero, 3 Sen Baku, 10 M5 Zero, 12 Judy
Losses 1 m2 Zero, 3 M5 Zero, 3 Judy
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3rd assault
3 M2 Zero, 1 Sen Baku, 7 M5 Zero, 25 Judy
Losses
1 M2 Zero, 2 M5 Zero, 11 Judy
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Other minor air attacks with no success for the Japanese
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Allied air attack on naval TF
Unfortunately for the Japanese a supply convoy sailed too close while trying to get to the marinaras islands.
Japanese aircraft M2 Zero 5, M5 Zero 6
Allied Aircraft 15 Hellcat, 48 1C helldiver, 28 3 hell diver, 29 Avenger
Japanese Aircraft lost 1 M5 Zero
Allied Aircraft lost Hellcat 3, Helldiver 2, Helldiver 1
Japanese Ships
xAK Daihachikyo Maru BH 3, TH4 - Sunk
xAKL Kosho Maru BH 4 - Sunk
xAKL Noshiro Maru #2, TH 1 - Sunk
xAKL Hagoromo Maru, BH 3 - Sunk
xAKL Toshi Maru, BH 9 - Sunk
E Tsubame, TH 1 - Sunk
PB Toshio Maru #3, BH 1 - Sunk
PB Tama Maru #8, BH 1 - Sunk
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Minor Japanese air attacks with no damage
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 10, 1944 Turn 20
Amphibious forces preparing to assault Tinian I would list the troops but it is basically everything that I could get my hands on except 2 regiments on Pagan.
End of Turn
Pre-invasion of Tinian 213 guns
43 Japanese casualties
76 Allied casualties
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I hate this next part...
Allied Ground losses 1112 casualties. 0/240,4/392,0/0,0/224,1/452 OWWWW
Japanese Sub takes 5 hits at Saipan
LCI 75 sinks due to sub attack at Saipan
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Allied Bombardment of Tinian
9 planes destroyed on the ground 37 damaged
432 casualties, 15 airbase hits, 2 airbase supply hits, 30 Runway hits, 10 port hits, 2 port supply hits.
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Pre-invasion of Tinian - 91 Japanese casualties
12 allied vehicles losses 1/11
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2 vehicles lost during unloading
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Invasion action - 20 japanese casualties, 27 allied casualties
- 11 allied losses
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Japanese sub hits allied DD with a torpedo and takes 6 hits near Saipan
Japanes sub takes 19 hits and sinks near Pagan
Japanese sub takes 14 hits near Lihue
Playing whack a mole with the subs like last game... lots of hits each turn from the main air TF's
Saipan throws up 7 zero's and 3 betty's
The allies defend with 37 wildcats and 317 hellcats
Life isnt fair...
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Allied air atttack on Saipan naval fleet
M2 Zero 2 , M5 zero 10
Hellcat 41, Helldiver 28
Aircraft losses
1 zero, 1 hellcat
Japanese ships
TK Medan Maru, BH 11 - sunk
SC Ch 21, BH 2 - sunk
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Japanese Bombardment of Tinian
Attacking Force 5942 Troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles, AV 305
Defending Force 28,571 troops, 598 guns, 1351 Vehicles AV 1000
No losses
Amphibious forces preparing to assault Tinian I would list the troops but it is basically everything that I could get my hands on except 2 regiments on Pagan.
End of Turn
Pre-invasion of Tinian 213 guns
43 Japanese casualties
76 Allied casualties
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I hate this next part...
Allied Ground losses 1112 casualties. 0/240,4/392,0/0,0/224,1/452 OWWWW
Japanese Sub takes 5 hits at Saipan
LCI 75 sinks due to sub attack at Saipan
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Allied Bombardment of Tinian
9 planes destroyed on the ground 37 damaged
432 casualties, 15 airbase hits, 2 airbase supply hits, 30 Runway hits, 10 port hits, 2 port supply hits.
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Pre-invasion of Tinian - 91 Japanese casualties
12 allied vehicles losses 1/11
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2 vehicles lost during unloading
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Invasion action - 20 japanese casualties, 27 allied casualties
- 11 allied losses
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Japanese sub hits allied DD with a torpedo and takes 6 hits near Saipan
Japanes sub takes 19 hits and sinks near Pagan
Japanese sub takes 14 hits near Lihue
Playing whack a mole with the subs like last game... lots of hits each turn from the main air TF's
Saipan throws up 7 zero's and 3 betty's
The allies defend with 37 wildcats and 317 hellcats
Life isnt fair...
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Allied air atttack on Saipan naval fleet
M2 Zero 2 , M5 zero 10
Hellcat 41, Helldiver 28
Aircraft losses
1 zero, 1 hellcat
Japanese ships
TK Medan Maru, BH 11 - sunk
SC Ch 21, BH 2 - sunk
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Japanese Bombardment of Tinian
Attacking Force 5942 Troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles, AV 305
Defending Force 28,571 troops, 598 guns, 1351 Vehicles AV 1000
No losses

RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
In the middle of the reports about Tinian you have a report on bombardment at Saipan.
Did you mean to write Tinian?
If Saipan was correct, was this an aerial or naval bombardment?
If naval, what was the minimum range setting and what types/numbers of ships were bombarding? And how did you deal with mines and subs?
Did you mean to write Tinian?
If Saipan was correct, was this an aerial or naval bombardment?
If naval, what was the minimum range setting and what types/numbers of ships were bombarding? And how did you deal with mines and subs?
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 11, 1944 Turn 21
Setting almost all troops on Tinian for shock attack (setting 2 with alot of disruption for direct attack)
Pagan is 2 days from getting a base force to field aircraft.
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Pre invasion bombardment - 26 allied casualties
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Minor air attacks
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Japanese Bombardment at Tinian
Attacking force AV 306
Defending force AV 1046
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Allied Shock attack at Tinian
Attacking Force 29057 troops, 598 guns, 1355 vehicles AV 1046
Defending Force 13011 troops, 128 guns, 35 vehicles AV 306
Allied Engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Adjusted attack 821/1013
Allied assault odds 1-2
Japanese ground losses 2905 casualties 100/114,47/57,1/20,18/44,31/8
Allied ground losses 946 casualties 2/70,0/32,1/43,1/20,3/54
Setting almost all troops on Tinian for shock attack (setting 2 with alot of disruption for direct attack)
Pagan is 2 days from getting a base force to field aircraft.
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Pre invasion bombardment - 26 allied casualties
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Minor air attacks
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Japanese Bombardment at Tinian
Attacking force AV 306
Defending force AV 1046
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Allied Shock attack at Tinian
Attacking Force 29057 troops, 598 guns, 1355 vehicles AV 1046
Defending Force 13011 troops, 128 guns, 35 vehicles AV 306
Allied Engineers reduce fortifications to 2
Adjusted attack 821/1013
Allied assault odds 1-2
Japanese ground losses 2905 casualties 100/114,47/57,1/20,18/44,31/8
Allied ground losses 946 casualties 2/70,0/32,1/43,1/20,3/54

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
You are correct, it was Tinian not Saipan.
I dont dare attack Saipan without giving it a good beatdown first.
I havent run into any mines yet.
Subs are getting repeatedly hit by dauntless on search.
I dont dare attack Saipan without giving it a good beatdown first.
I havent run into any mines yet.
Subs are getting repeatedly hit by dauntless on search.

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 12, 1944 Turn 22
I made a mistake and never unloaded the 4 regiments from Pagan. I have to send them back. that is both good and bad news. My disruption on the troops on Tinian is high and I am only going to gain a large advantage by leaving the troops there on defend for a turn or two while the others land. I have troop transports waiting to unload base forces and engineer units on Tinian so I am going to sit with the whole fleet on that spot until I get fully unloaded.
I havent gotten any real attacks from any of the outer islands (iwo jima, ulithi, yap). I can see 69 ships in port in Peleliu but honestly killing the KB is not the primary mission of this scenario. And I will have plenty of time. My next big objective is to fully capture Tinian and have most of the troops on Guam within a week. At that time I have to send a division size transport fleet back to PH to pickup a unit that will be arriving. 2 weeks later I have to send a force capable of picking up 2 more divisions. By that time I need to have most of my forces on Guam and be pounding Saipan down.
End of Turn
Night of attack on pagan by 3 nell - no damage
I am hitting truk and ponape nightly with liberators but have not done any significant damage. on the other hand I have not taken any significant damage so it is a wash.
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Japanese air assault from Saipan
M2 Zero 4,M5 zero 11,Betty 3, Betty 3
Hellcat 240
Japanese losses Zero 2, Zero 6, Betty 2, Betty 1
Hellcat 1
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2nd assault
Zero 2, Zero 3, Betty 5, Betty 3
Hellcat 218
Japanese aircraft destroyed
Zero 1, Zero 1, Betty 1, Betty 1,
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Japanese Bombardment at Tinian
Attacking force 5172 troops, 44 guns , 0 vehicles AV 140
Defending force 28514 troops, 597 guns, 1361 vehicles AV 945
Japanese losses 36 2/2,0/0,0/0
Allied losses 1 vehicle 1/0
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I made a mistake and never unloaded the 4 regiments from Pagan. I have to send them back. that is both good and bad news. My disruption on the troops on Tinian is high and I am only going to gain a large advantage by leaving the troops there on defend for a turn or two while the others land. I have troop transports waiting to unload base forces and engineer units on Tinian so I am going to sit with the whole fleet on that spot until I get fully unloaded.
I havent gotten any real attacks from any of the outer islands (iwo jima, ulithi, yap). I can see 69 ships in port in Peleliu but honestly killing the KB is not the primary mission of this scenario. And I will have plenty of time. My next big objective is to fully capture Tinian and have most of the troops on Guam within a week. At that time I have to send a division size transport fleet back to PH to pickup a unit that will be arriving. 2 weeks later I have to send a force capable of picking up 2 more divisions. By that time I need to have most of my forces on Guam and be pounding Saipan down.
End of Turn
Night of attack on pagan by 3 nell - no damage
I am hitting truk and ponape nightly with liberators but have not done any significant damage. on the other hand I have not taken any significant damage so it is a wash.
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Japanese air assault from Saipan
M2 Zero 4,M5 zero 11,Betty 3, Betty 3
Hellcat 240
Japanese losses Zero 2, Zero 6, Betty 2, Betty 1
Hellcat 1
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2nd assault
Zero 2, Zero 3, Betty 5, Betty 3
Hellcat 218
Japanese aircraft destroyed
Zero 1, Zero 1, Betty 1, Betty 1,
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Japanese Bombardment at Tinian
Attacking force 5172 troops, 44 guns , 0 vehicles AV 140
Defending force 28514 troops, 597 guns, 1361 vehicles AV 945
Japanese losses 36 2/2,0/0,0/0
Allied losses 1 vehicle 1/0
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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 13, 1944 Turn 23
The tinian forces went from 30-40 disruption to 10-20 disruption. I am going to wait until next turn after the unloading of the 4 additional regiments to attack.
Sending a force to pick up the 2 remaining regiments on Pagan for delivery to Rota
Pagan gets a base force next turn
End Turn
Pre invasion off tinian... 145 coastal guns
Japanese losses 107
Allied lossses 37
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Troops unloading onto Tinian
Allied losses 498 1/123,0/95,0/0,0/71,0/24
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Invasion support 147 coastal guns fired
96 allied casualties 0/0,1/21,0/0
34 casualties 0/0,0/8,0/0
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minor land based air attacks against forces at Tinian. No damage
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Invasion support - 85 casualties
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Japanese bombardment attack at Tinian
Attacking force 5177 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles AV 136
Defending 34303 troops, 782 guns, 1442 vehicles AV 1102
Japanese losses 151 16/1,0/2,0/0,7/0
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Japanese score 1902 Allied Score 715
The tinian forces went from 30-40 disruption to 10-20 disruption. I am going to wait until next turn after the unloading of the 4 additional regiments to attack.
Sending a force to pick up the 2 remaining regiments on Pagan for delivery to Rota
Pagan gets a base force next turn
End Turn
Pre invasion off tinian... 145 coastal guns
Japanese losses 107
Allied lossses 37
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Troops unloading onto Tinian
Allied losses 498 1/123,0/95,0/0,0/71,0/24
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Invasion support 147 coastal guns fired
96 allied casualties 0/0,1/21,0/0
34 casualties 0/0,0/8,0/0
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minor land based air attacks against forces at Tinian. No damage
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Invasion support - 85 casualties
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Japanese bombardment attack at Tinian
Attacking force 5177 troops, 44 guns, 0 vehicles AV 136
Defending 34303 troops, 782 guns, 1442 vehicles AV 1102
Japanese losses 151 16/1,0/2,0/0,7/0
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Japanese score 1902 Allied Score 715

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 14, 1944 Turn 24
Setting all troops to shock attack at Tinian. I need to take this island quickly if I want to get to guam before I need to move ships for division pickup.
*sigh*
For some reason some of the marine regiments I was trying to unload onto Tinian have sailed back to pagan with most of the troops still loaded. Diverting back to tinian.
Setting my cruiser fleet to bombard tinian to lower his AV and kill some troops.
Transfered 4 squadrons of mitchell bombers from Makin and 1 squadron of corsair from Eniwetok to Pagan. Airfield bombing will commence at saipan.
End of Turn
SSX hit for 4 damage at Guam
SSX hit for 4 damage at Guam
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CA bombardment of Tinian
1 Myrt destroyed, 4 Myrt damaged
Japanese Ground Loses 476 0/3,7/56,1/15,1/3
Airbase hits 15, Airbase supply hits 7, Runway hits 52, Port Hits 16, Port Supply Hits 7
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70 mines swept at Guam
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5 zero's and 3 bettys attacking from Saipan
3 zero's destroyed
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5 zeroes and 5 bettys attacking from Saipan
2 zero's and 1 betty destroyed
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Allied bombing of Saipan airfield
Japanese planes 24 Zero
Allied planes 9 corsair 53 mitchell
2 Zero's destroyed, 12 mitchell's damaged
Japanese ground losses 5
Airbase hits 8, Airbase supply hits 4, Runway hits 26
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3 betty's attack my mine sweepers at guam - 2 betty's damaged, no allied damage
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Land based air attack from Saipan and guam
3 M5 Zero, 2 M2 Zero, 3 Betty
5 Corsair
M2 zero 1 destroyed, M5 zero 2 destroyed, Betty 2 destroyed 1 damaged
No allied losses
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Land based attack from Saipan to Guam minesweepers
4 zero's, 4 betty's
2 bettys damaged
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pre invasion off tinian - 21 casualties
Allied ground losses 394 casualties 0/125,0/153,0/0,0/38,1/43 - Remaining parts of the 4 regiments
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Japanese bombardment of Tinian
Attacking force
3673 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles AV 134
Defending
39482 troops, 941 guns, 1536 vehicles, AV 1252
Japanese ground losses 91
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Allied shock attack at Tinian
Attacking force 37032 troops, 847 guns, 1492 vehicles AV 1252
Defending force 10059 troops, 107 guns, 12 vehicles, AV 132
Engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Adjusted odds 1009/31
Allied assault odds 32 to 1
Allied forces CAPTURE Tinian!!
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3 units wiped out at Tinian by attrition,
Japanese Score 1581, Allied Score 1089
Setting all troops to shock attack at Tinian. I need to take this island quickly if I want to get to guam before I need to move ships for division pickup.
*sigh*
For some reason some of the marine regiments I was trying to unload onto Tinian have sailed back to pagan with most of the troops still loaded. Diverting back to tinian.
Setting my cruiser fleet to bombard tinian to lower his AV and kill some troops.
Transfered 4 squadrons of mitchell bombers from Makin and 1 squadron of corsair from Eniwetok to Pagan. Airfield bombing will commence at saipan.
End of Turn
SSX hit for 4 damage at Guam
SSX hit for 4 damage at Guam
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CA bombardment of Tinian
1 Myrt destroyed, 4 Myrt damaged
Japanese Ground Loses 476 0/3,7/56,1/15,1/3
Airbase hits 15, Airbase supply hits 7, Runway hits 52, Port Hits 16, Port Supply Hits 7
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70 mines swept at Guam
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5 zero's and 3 bettys attacking from Saipan
3 zero's destroyed
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5 zeroes and 5 bettys attacking from Saipan
2 zero's and 1 betty destroyed
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Allied bombing of Saipan airfield
Japanese planes 24 Zero
Allied planes 9 corsair 53 mitchell
2 Zero's destroyed, 12 mitchell's damaged
Japanese ground losses 5
Airbase hits 8, Airbase supply hits 4, Runway hits 26
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3 betty's attack my mine sweepers at guam - 2 betty's damaged, no allied damage
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Land based air attack from Saipan and guam
3 M5 Zero, 2 M2 Zero, 3 Betty
5 Corsair
M2 zero 1 destroyed, M5 zero 2 destroyed, Betty 2 destroyed 1 damaged
No allied losses
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Land based attack from Saipan to Guam minesweepers
4 zero's, 4 betty's
2 bettys damaged
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pre invasion off tinian - 21 casualties
Allied ground losses 394 casualties 0/125,0/153,0/0,0/38,1/43 - Remaining parts of the 4 regiments
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Japanese bombardment of Tinian
Attacking force
3673 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles AV 134
Defending
39482 troops, 941 guns, 1536 vehicles, AV 1252
Japanese ground losses 91
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Allied shock attack at Tinian
Attacking force 37032 troops, 847 guns, 1492 vehicles AV 1252
Defending force 10059 troops, 107 guns, 12 vehicles, AV 132
Engineers reduce fortifications to 1
Adjusted odds 1009/31
Allied assault odds 32 to 1
Allied forces CAPTURE Tinian!!
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3 units wiped out at Tinian by attrition,
Japanese Score 1581, Allied Score 1089

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RE: Off to the races - A journeyman's assault of the Marianas
June 15, 1944 Turn 25
Ok, unloading all the support troops brought along from PH. Unloading supplies, etc.
Loading 2 regiments at Pagan bound for Rota.
Sending my main air TF west toward Pelieu. I can be next to the base in 2 turns. Depending upon what happens a port attack might be possible.
Set troops on Tinan to defend for this turn.
A minefield just showed up at Tinian. So far I have been very lucky...
Transferred a squadron of Ventura's to Tinian
The base is still badly damaged but I will be offloading construction engineers this turn.
End of Turn.
Japanese sub hit 33 times and is sunk near pagan.
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Allied air attack on Saipan
Japanese M2 Zero 3, M5 Zero 2
Mitchell 10, Mitchell 14, Mitchell 27, Corsair 8
2 zero's destroyed, 2 zero's damaged
1 mitchell damaged
Airbase hits 11, Airbase supply hits 1, Runway hits 26
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Japanese Score 1591 Allied Score 1101
Ok, unloading all the support troops brought along from PH. Unloading supplies, etc.
Loading 2 regiments at Pagan bound for Rota.
Sending my main air TF west toward Pelieu. I can be next to the base in 2 turns. Depending upon what happens a port attack might be possible.
Set troops on Tinan to defend for this turn.
A minefield just showed up at Tinian. So far I have been very lucky...
Transferred a squadron of Ventura's to Tinian
The base is still badly damaged but I will be offloading construction engineers this turn.
End of Turn.
Japanese sub hit 33 times and is sunk near pagan.
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Allied air attack on Saipan
Japanese M2 Zero 3, M5 Zero 2
Mitchell 10, Mitchell 14, Mitchell 27, Corsair 8
2 zero's destroyed, 2 zero's damaged
1 mitchell damaged
Airbase hits 11, Airbase supply hits 1, Runway hits 26
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Japanese Score 1591 Allied Score 1101


