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Return To Base: Axis - Sea of Japan convoys?

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Not sure why I can't end the turn for Japan in the 'Return To Base: Axis' phase unless I bring the Japanese convoys back to a port from the Sea of Japan. What rule is this? Thought convoys could stay at sea? Is this a bug or?



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Here is after I return the convoys in Sea of Japan to Niigata port. As you see can end the phase now as button is green. Why does ending the phase require me to return these convoys to port? Seas to stormy? [8D]


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You need to set your convoys to have Sentry status. (Right click on them to get a unit menu and select Sentry.) Then they won't be auto-selected to RTB because they're in the zero box.

You'll also find this greatly improves your production. [;)]
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Make sure your convoys are set to 'sentry mode' during the phase where you decide to stay at sea or not if they have not already been set to sentry earlier in the turn. I believe unless you do when the return to base phase arrives you cannot change them to sentry and must send them to port.
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Make sure your convoys are set to 'sentry mode' during the phase where you decide to stay at sea or not if they have not already been set to sentry earlier in the turn. I believe unless you do when the return to base phase arrives you cannot change them to sentry and must send them to port.
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That's interesting - I have never had to manually set a convoy's sentry status. Is this a netplay issue?
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Make sure your convoys are set to 'sentry mode' during the phase where you decide to stay at sea or not if they have not already been set to sentry earlier in the turn. I believe unless you do when the return to base phase arrives you cannot change them to sentry and must send them to port.
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That's interesting - I have never had to manually set a convoy's sentry status. Is this a netplay issue?

At deployment they usually default to sentry status. However they can be inadvertently deactivated from sentry status while attempting to select other ships. Always advisable to have a quick look over convoys during the stay at sea phase to be sure.

I am yet to play net play so cannot advise on this issue.
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ORIGINAL: abulbulian

Not sure why I can't end the turn for Japan in the 'Return To Base: Axis' phase unless I bring the Japanese convoys back to a port from the Sea of Japan. What rule is this? Thought convoys could stay at sea? Is this a bug or?


Yous question has already been answered as for why you couldn't pass the phase, you need to tell the computer whether you want them to stay or leave, if they accidentally were not at "sentry".

Convoys can stay at sea, that's for sure.
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ORIGINAL: abulbulian

Not sure why I can't end the turn for Japan in the 'Return To Base: Axis' phase unless I bring the Japanese convoys back to a port from the Sea of Japan. What rule is this? Thought convoys could stay at sea? Is this a bug or?


Yous question has already been answered as for why you couldn't pass the phase, you need to tell the computer whether you want them to stay or leave, if they accidentally were not at "sentry".

Convoys can stay at sea, that's for sure.

To clarify, if you have already not set them to sentry at the 'Stay at Sea' phase then you will not be able to set them to sentry at the 'return to base' phase and therefore must return to them to base. Well that's what I have found.
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Clearer. [;)]
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Something else to keep in mind is that splitting a convoy at sea will cause the convoys to go off sentry.
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Another thing that could have affected this is what happened in the Preliminary Production phase just prior to RTB. From page 228 of Players Manual Vol 1:

...you can choose to have all your unused convoys stay at sea by clicking on the Unused Stay button. The program implements that by setting the unused convoys to Sentry status which causes them to automatically stay at sea during the Stay At Sea and the Return to Base phases. If you click on the “Unused Stay” button, its label is toggled to read “Return Unused”.

Clicking on the Unused button when its label is “Return Unused” doesn’t actually return your unused convoys to port, but rather sets the status of used convoys to Sentry and clears the Sentry status of unused convoys.

So if the Preliminary Production phase was skipped (perhaps thinking "I'm learning the game, I'll worry about this later".) Then all the CPs might have had their sentry status changed.
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Sometimes the game needs a spare CP to route resources correctly, so returning all unused CP may not be advisable.
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