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Unable to move CC

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Its the USSR land move. Communist Chinese units are not available to move. All 5 moves remain. Ordinary USSR units are available. Tried reloading savegame. V 1.0.6.
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RE: Unable to move CC

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ORIGINAL: Ktarn

Its the USSR land move. Communist Chinese units are not available to move. All 5 moves remain. Ordinary USSR units are available. Tried reloading savegame. V 1.0.6.
At the moment I am not able to look at the save but I am wondering if you did a pass impulse with China?
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RE: Unable to move CC

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I did actually, does that affect the communists?
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RE: Unable to move CC

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ORIGINAL: Ktarn

I did actually, does that affect the communists?
Yes, they may not move then.Communist China and China is the same country and are considered taking the same impulse. But CC are moved by USSR and use their activites. Can be confusing at times.

Cut from RAC: 20. Chinese communists
The Soviet player always controls the Chinese communist units and their activities count against Soviet
activity limits. Partisans in China are always Chinese communist units.
[Clarification. Communist Chinese units may not move if China takes a Pass action. This is true even if the USSR
does not Pass. If the USSR is incompletely or completely conquered, the communist Chinese activity limits are ½ of
the USSR’s - Dec. 29, 2007.]

However, nationalist and communist Chinese units go into the same force pools. They are built by the
nationalist player but he or she has no choice whether to produce nationalist or communist units.
Apart from the above (and the placement of reinforcements ~ see 4.2), Communist and Nationalist Chinese
count as one major power for all purposes (e.g. they can't be conquered separately, declaring war on them is only one
US entry effect, etc.).
[Clarification. If China produces an offensive chit, it can be used by either the Nationalist or Communist Chinese
(the Nationalist Chinese decide how the chit is used). The Communist Chinese may get a benefit if the Nationalist
Chinese use an offensive chit: (1) no benefit to the Communist Chinese if the offensive chit is applied to Chiang or
Stilwell, (2) if the chit is used for a “super Combined Action”, the Communist Chinese units can perform all
activities irrespective of the action type taken by the USSR for the impulse, (3) may only be applied to Mao if the
USSR takes a Land Action - June 25, 2008.]
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RE: Unable to move CC

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RAC p. 152, it does affect the communists. I have not interpreted RAW this way, but I see its correct according to the FAQ. Nevermind then [8|]
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