Give them Hell, 2008 (in Progress)

[Kitchens Sink]

After using a Hawkeye to search in vain for the Kuznetsov Carrier group (given in the briefing to be somewhere off the coast of Syria), I did what any good wargamer would do...I cheated and opened up the Scenario Editor to find it. It turns out the Kuznetsov and it's escorts are all the way across the globe off the coast of Australia. I don't think they could make it on to the battle scene in time for the scenario time to run out. Just as well, I didn't want to mess with it anyway.

[mikmykWS]

This is a community scenario so you can't really bang on the author them like you can us.

I imaging contacting him via PM probably a little nicer than embarrassing him on the web forum over stupid stuff.

Thanks!

Mike

[Kitchens Sink]

My apologies. It could be that the group is exactly where the author intended it to be. Also, I had no idea that there was the ability to PM anybody. Please delete the post and thread if you find it offensive.

[djoos5]

It's probably a situation where the ship teleports into the action after a trigger or time event.

[Kitchens Sink]

After further play, I now understand that the Scenario Briefing was exactly correct. Bravo to the author. This one is a challenge.

[AlexGGGG]

Well I fired two salvos of TLAMs, expending all of them, and was able to get "Russian declare ceasefire", score 635 Triumph, before the convoy even entered the Black Sea.

I rebased all of Hornets to Cengiz Topel though; never really noticed anything about Russian surface group in the briefing. I need to pay more attention next time perhaps.

Anyway Russians did not held their ceasefire, so I play on.

[Luidzi]

At what did you launch those Tomahawks? You didn't blow all those Russian airbases to stone age, did you? In that case, congratulation on starting the third world war [:D]

I don't think you are supposed to attack Russian bases, that would be too easy victory. While not explicitely mentioned in briefing, there is a clause about avoiding any operation in, under or over the Russian sovereign territory, airspace or waters, and that IMO rules out a massive tactical missile attack. I confess that the idea of TLAM strike never crossed my mind at any point during playing - the mission is to escort a humanitarian convoy from point A to point B without using an excessive force.

[AlexGGGG]

Sure I observed where Russian flights originate from and then shoot the hell out of these bases with TLAMs. Darn, they launched their bombers and Kitchens or whatever on me. In my strategy, achieving air superiority is always the first point. Over the years of playing Harpoon, I figured this is best done by disabling airbases, situation permitting. Works fine in Command too.

[magi]

ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

My apologies. It could be that the group is exactly where the author intended it to be. Also, I had no idea that there was the ability to PM anybody. Please delete the post and thread if you find it offensive.

whata guy... i dont find it over assertive at all.... more questioning.. curious...

[AlexGGGG]

After some nasty bug was fixed in 1.07 RC1, I was finally able to complete the scenario, with very little of the Russian force left.

1580 Triumph

SIDE: NATO
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LOSSES:
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2x F/A-18F Super Hornet
1x SH-60F Oceanhawk
2x P-3C Orion Update III AIP
2x F/A-18E Super Hornet
2x F/A-18C Hornet


EXPENDITURES:
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97x AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM P3I.2
16x AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM P3I.3
148x RGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV TACTOM
148x RGM-109C Tomahawk Blk III TLAM
99x AN/SSQ-53F DIFAR
6x RUM-139C VLA [Mk54]
22x AGM-88C HARM
8x UGM-109C Tomahawk Blk III TLAM
42x AGM-84G Harpoon ICR
418x AN/SSQ-53D DIFAR
407x AN/SSQ-62C DICASS
4x RGM-84D Harpoon IC
4x AGM-154A JSOW [145 x BLU-97/B Dual Purpose]
20x AGM-154C JSOW [BROACH]
2x RGM-84G Harpoon ICR
12x Mk84 2000lb LDGP
2x Mk46 NEARTIP Mod 5A(SW)



SIDE: Russia
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LOSSES:
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9x Be-12PL Mail
55x Su-27S Flanker B
6x MiG-25RBS Foxbat D
20x Tu-22M-3 Backfire C
66x Su-24M Fencer D
2x Il-78M Midas
2x Su-34 Fullback
2x Single-Unit Airfield (2x 3201-4000m Runways)
6x MiG-31B Foxhound
12x Su-24MR Fencer E
4x Il-38 May
1x Single-Unit Airfield (2x 2001-2600m Runways)
1x PLA-971M Akula II
12x MiG-25RB Foxbat B
1x Single-Unit Airfield (1x 2600-3200m, Runway)
2x MRK Nanuchka III [Pr.1234.1 Ovod]
1x BPK Kashin Mod [Pr.61M]
4x RK Tarantul III [Pr.1241RE Molniya]
1x MPK Grisha I [Pr.1124.1 Albatros]
2x BPK Kara [Pr.1134B Berkut B]
3x MPK Grisha III [Pr.1124M Albatros]
2x Ka-27PL Helix A
2x Vehicle (Flap Lid B [5N63S])
2x Tu-142MZ Bear F Mod 4
14x SA-10b Grumble [5P85S] TEL
3x Radar (Back Net [P-80])
3x Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66])
2x Radar (Big Back [5N69])
2x MRK Bora [Pr.1239 Sivuch]
1x A-50 Mainstay A
1x Radar (Thin Skin A HF [PRV-9])
1x PL-877 Kilo


EXPENDITURES:
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126x RGB-75 [Basic Search, Passive Omni]
460x RGB-1 [NATO BM-1, Search, Passive Omni]
54x RGB-2 [NATO BM-2, Track, Passive Bearing-Only]
103x RGB-15 [Refined Search, Passive Omni]
34x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni]
30x RGB-25 [Track, Passive Directional]
41x RGB-55A [Track, Active/Passive]
20x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
5x AA-10 Alamo A [R-27R, MR SARH]
17x PK-2 Chaff [TSP-47]
2x AA-10 Alamo A [R-27P, MR ARM]
2x APR-2 Orlan-M
28x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
14x AA-9 Amos [R-33S, ARH]
2x USET-80K
3x MG-114 Berilly
10x Generic Acoustic Decoy
4x RGB-3 [Track, Active-Only]
18x AK-630M 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
28x AK-630 30mm/65 Gatling Burst [400 rnds]
5x AK-725 57mm/80 Twin HE Burst [6 rnds]
19x PK-16 Chaff [TSP-60U]
101x SA-10b Grumble [5V55R]
8x PK-10 Chaff [SR-50]


SIDE: Neutral2
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LOSSES:
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1x SSV Primorye [Pr.394B/994]


EXPENDITURES:
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2x SA-N-5 Grail [9M32M]

[magi]

I need to do this with the updates... I started it last year and didn't finnish it......