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warspite1ORIGINAL: brian brian
You would probably have to move the AMPHs already in French ports out of France first in order to move a new one into port. Naval units count against FTC.
warspite1ORIGINAL: AxelNL
It looks like a bug in the counting algorithm: both HQ's could be counted if the program counts all other units except the HQ it currently "counts" from, and than from the other HQ.
Report it in the appropriate forum including the save?
warspite1ORIGINAL: Centuur
You can upload a zipped save game.
You can find the file in the right folder (Matrix Games - World in Flames - Scenarios - Global War - Saved games is where it should be). Right click on the name of the saved game, zip it and upload it as an attachment in the forum.
warspite1ORIGINAL: Orm
I suspect that it might be because Gort is inside the border for Vichy France and the program does not count Gort towards the HQ limit for France but rather count it for the HQ limit for Vichy France.
As soon as the minor country is completely conquered you can use their fleet in the same way as your MP fleet. This usually happens to countries like Norway, Denmark, Greece, Turkey, Sweden, Finland. Countries that has no colonies if you will.On a serious note, this rule really limits the use of minor naval units. So if I have this right, the British cannot employ Dutch, Belgian, Norwegian, Polish etc in any ports outside of CW Home Countries and Territories? So not Egypt, not Ceylon or countries CW cannot co-operate with even if abiding by the FTC rule?
Nice work figuring that out. [:)]ORIGINAL: warspite1
So what was the problem? Yes you've guessed it, it's the bloody Dutch....again! [X(]
You can also use foreign transports in any territory -- that is areas that do not have a capital. For example, if Germany declares war on Spain, and Spain aligns to any Allied power, the Netherlands transport can not go to a port on the Spanish mainland, Spanish Morocco, or Spanish Sahara, but can go to Tenerife, Canary Islands and Palma, Balearic Islands . Also the Dutch TRS can go to any port that the Allies capture from an enemy home country or territory; thus if the Allies capture Tobruk or Naples, the TRS could land there. Of course, the statement that the TRS can land somewhere assumes that no other Allied major power or minor country has units in the hex.ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: Orm
I suspect that it might be because Gort is inside the border for Vichy France and the program does not count Gort towards the HQ limit for France but rather count it for the HQ limit for Vichy France.
Right so given the problems I have zipping or uploading [8|] I have broken off doing the AAR to test this some more.
I took Gort out of the Vichy border and the troops were able to land. I thought Ormster had struck gold. But just to make certain, I then kept Gort in the Vichy border and tried to land units again. It still worked [&:] - but hadn't yesterday [&:][&:]
So what was the problem? Yes you've guessed it, it's the bloody Dutch....again! [X(]
The Armour unit I tried to land this time (and must have initially tried yesterday) was carried by a Dutch TRS. The reason for denial of landing was given as the FTC rule which added to my confusion (though was not strictly wrong I suppose!). I guess I am still thinking historical rather than strictly game terms i.e. in the real war troopships were employed from many countries - Norway, Belgium, Greece - yes, even the bloody Dutch [:D].
Harbour master in Bordeaux: No zorry meester I cannot accept ze landing of troops, zat ave come to elp save my country, in zis port.
Commonwealth Army Officer: Why the devil not?
HMIB: Because ze port of, how you say, registration, of ze troopship is olland.
CAO: So?
HMIB: Well zere are two sings in zis world zat I cannot abide, people who are intolerant of other peoples cultures and ......ze Dutch [:D]
On a serious note, this rule really limits the use of minor naval units. So if I have this right, the British cannot employ Dutch, Belgian, Norwegian, Polish etc in any ports outside of CW Home Countries and Territories? So not Egypt, not Ceylon or countries CW cannot co-operate with even if abiding by the FTC rule?
ORIGINAL: Orm
Nice work figuring that out. [:)]ORIGINAL: warspite1
So what was the problem? Yes you've guessed it, it's the bloody Dutch....again! [X(]
And I would never have guesses it. [:)]
[:-]
ORIGINAL: WarHunter
Keep your Dutch ships docked in any port of the UK, Canada, South Africa, India, Australia and NEI. Give them there own port. Don't share. Keep them at sea as much as possible.
If you deploy them this way. Your Dutch navy will serve you well.
Never base a Dutch or Belgian unit in Gibraltar. Once you do. You will find yourself wishing you did not. You might get away with it. Sooner or later it will bite you.
I like how you think. [:)][8D]ORIGINAL: AxelNL
We like our base in the Caribian.....[8D]
ORIGINAL: Orm
I like how you think. [:)][8D]ORIGINAL: AxelNL
We like our base in the Caribian.....[8D]
Why did we sell ours.
If France is conquered or Vichied then the Dutch TRS can be in any port there that is Allied controlled, and can stack with CW units. If the US shows up in the area, then there'll be problems because the US can't stack with the Dutch TRS.ORIGINAL: Courtenay
You can also use foreign transports in any territory -- that is areas that do not have a capital. For example, if Germany declares war on Spain, and Spain aligns to any Allied power, the Netherlands transport can not go to a port on the Spanish mainland, Spanish Morocco, or Spanish Sahara, but can go to Tenerife, Canary Islands and Palma, Balearic Islands . Also the Dutch TRS can go to any port that the Allies capture from an enemy home country or territory; thus if the Allies capture Tobruk or Naples, the TRS could land there. Of course, the statement that the TRS can land somewhere assumes that no other Allied major power or minor country has units in the hex.ORIGINAL: warspite1
warspite1ORIGINAL: Orm
I suspect that it might be because Gort is inside the border for Vichy France and the program does not count Gort towards the HQ limit for France but rather count it for the HQ limit for Vichy France.
Right so given the problems I have zipping or uploading [8|] I have broken off doing the AAR to test this some more.
I took Gort out of the Vichy border and the troops were able to land. I thought Ormster had struck gold. But just to make certain, I then kept Gort in the Vichy border and tried to land units again. It still worked [&:] - but hadn't yesterday [&:][&:]
So what was the problem? Yes you've guessed it, it's the bloody Dutch....again! [X(]
The Armour unit I tried to land this time (and must have initially tried yesterday) was carried by a Dutch TRS. The reason for denial of landing was given as the FTC rule which added to my confusion (though was not strictly wrong I suppose!). I guess I am still thinking historical rather than strictly game terms i.e. in the real war troopships were employed from many countries - Norway, Belgium, Greece - yes, even the bloody Dutch [:D].
Harbour master in Bordeaux: No zorry meester I cannot accept ze landing of troops, zat ave come to elp save my country, in zis port.
Commonwealth Army Officer: Why the devil not?
HMIB: Because ze port of, how you say, registration, of ze troopship is olland.
CAO: So?
HMIB: Well zere are two sings in zis world zat I cannot abide, people who are intolerant of other peoples cultures and ......ze Dutch [:D]
On a serious note, this rule really limits the use of minor naval units. So if I have this right, the British cannot employ Dutch, Belgian, Norwegian, Polish etc in any ports outside of CW Home Countries and Territories? So not Egypt, not Ceylon or countries CW cannot co-operate with even if abiding by the FTC rule?
In my current game, I have had foreign minor country naval units in Cyprus, Sardinia, and Bardia. I even have a Yugoslav ship based in Sousse, Tunisia. It returned to base there while Tunisia was still an Italian conquered country. It could not move there now that Tunisia is French again, but is not required to leave.
