Question about division withdrawals/loss

[alnby]

Playing as Germany I started a turn and found the 56th Inf unexpectedly in the Honor Roll. As this division was never attacked, I loaded the previous turn to try and piece together what happened. I noticed that the division was earmarked for immediate withdrawal and without knowing this, the division was used to assist in an attack. I still find it strange as the division was not encircled, was still within supply/command, and overall in good shape. The division finished its turn next to a stray Soviet unit but I don't know if that would cause it.

It was unexpected as I know there are penalties for abusing earmarked divisions but I was not at all expecting total loss of the division (and subsequent penalty). I'm just wondering if this is WAD or not - can I expect earmarked divisions that finish a turn on the front line to destruct?

p.s. - Kudos to the developers. I picked this game up on a whim and am loving it so far. It's one of the most interesting wargames I've ever played.

[lancer]

Hi alnby,

It sounds like the code for honour rolls isn't checking for a withdrawal flag. I'll take a look.

You should get notification of 'forthcoming withdrawals' a turn or two before it happens in the relevant daily log. Most of the withdrawals for the Germans are early on to transfer units to the newly formed 2A in AGC.

Thanks for the compliment!

Cheers,
Cameron

[lancer]

Hi alnby,

I checked the code and the only way the unit would have made it onto the honour roll was if it died as a result of combat or not being able to retreat when forced to do so.

Are you able to have look at the turn history (button bottom right, next to the surrender flag) and see if the Soviets attacked the 56th during their turn? You can quickly set through the history by going from Battle to Battle.

Cheers,
Cameron

[alnby]

Hi Cameron,

I checked the history and there were no Soviet attacks on the 56th Inf from July 8->12. The only combat involving the 56th was its own (failed) attack on the encircled Soviet 140th Rifle on July 8. The Honor Roll text states that the unit was over run when unable to retreat, which is strange as the 56th ended the turn in friendly territory and sharing a hex with other friendly units. The text states it was over run 60km SW of Rovno, which is where the Soviet 140th unit was attacked (and not where the 56th ended the turn). It also states that the 56th was over run on July 12.

Here is a screenshot of the situation before the turn ends and the 56th is destroyed - imgur(dot)com/rkKrcei

Let me know if you need more info.

[lancer]

Hi alnby,

O.K. I'll need to dig a bit deeper here.

Would it be possible to send me a save game file for the turn immediately AFTER the screenshot? (cameron dot tasmania @ gmail dot com)

Cheers,
Cameron

[alnby]

Email sent.

[lancer]

Hi alnby,

Found the issue. The save games were a big help.

It only occurs when you've got a unit that withdraws in the same turn that engages in combat and retreats as a result.

Fixed in the following update but can be avoided in the interim by not having units, that are earmarked for withdrawal, participate in combat.

Cheers,
Cameron

[Franciscus]

Hi

Maybe not related but having to do with honour roll:

Are lost non-german units supposed to appear in the honour roll ?

In my current german campaign (1.03p), the romenian tank division was encircled and destroyed. She has never appeared in the honour roll. I do not have a save of the turn she was lost, though...

Regards

[lancer]

Hi Franciscus,

Axis allies appear on the roll.

The code looks fine for this. I gave it a test run just to make sure and the 1st Rom Armoured Division popped up on the roll immediately after going under.

I'd need a save to see what might have happened with your game.

Next time.

Cheers,
Cameron

[Franciscus]

ORIGINAL: lancer

Hi Franciscus,

Axis allies appear on the roll.

The code looks fine for this. I gave it a test run just to make sure and the 1st Rom Armoured Division popped up on the roll immediately after going under.

I'd need a save to see what might have happened with your game.

Next time.

Cheers,
Cameron

Hi again, lancer.

I just finished my current campaign (started with 1.03p, finished under 1.03r, with a resounding victory for the Reich (on Easy mode [:D]). It was great fun ! [:)]

On the final analysis pdf, the 1st Romanian Armoured Division does not appear as lost. In fact, in the honour roll during the game and in the final analysis, the romanian tank unit never appeared, just one german infantry division that I lost somewhere.
SO.
- the Romanian tank dividion was defeated and lost (while still under 1.03p - check
- she is indeed lost, as she disappeared from the map and OOB - check
- but she was never accounted for as lost - bug

Not sure if it is of any interest, but I can provide the last auto-save before the game ending and the final analysis pdf.

Best regards.

[lancer]

Hi Franciscus,

O.K, I'll make a note to keep an eye on this for the future.

Sounds like there might have been unusual circumstances and I'd need the save game for the turn that the unit was lost to see what had happened.

Cheers,
Cameron