For Tamas K: Petition to add a feature

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As suggested by larryfulkerson, I am starting a petition [:D]

I am playing TOAW for years now. Keep leaving it, keep coming back to it because there is no such game like TOAW and after a long leave, I was very pleased to come back on TOAW III.

But, years after years, what I miss the most in TOAW engine is the ability to change the order of battle while playing the game. I would like to be able to reassign units from one formation to another. Not speaking of introducing leaders, I just want to reassign regiment/division under corps/army/etc... by events/by myself.

For long scenario, this will allow to respect historical OOB from my point of view.
This could perfectly be an advanced option if anyone fear of the impact on existing scenario.

This is perhaps not an opinion shared by others. Thus, let's see if some others would like this feature.

Thanks for your time
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I will miss this functionality. I was really hoping the development delay would have included this possibility.
In WITP-AE you can reassign the commander by name, actually a specific person. Do you need that level of detail
in TOAW games as well? Perhaps you should maybe start a thread with a catchy title to act as a sort of pettion to
Tamas K. or whoever is really pulling the strings, to sort of lobby for it. And pictures demonstrating it's obvious utility are
good. Keep up the pressure. I'd like to see some changes myownself.
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I don't know the release date for the TOAW IV game engine but if adding this feature
delays that I say save this feature for the next version. But otherwise I'm on board.
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I would vote for this feature, but they are struggling to finish the game with the current feature set, I seriously doubt that they are considering adding more features, no matter how desirable...
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It's an interesting idea but not sure it's suitable for the current TOAW. You already have the option to go into the scenario editor and modify the OOB. I don't see the advantage of allowing it on-the-fly during a game.
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ORIGINAL: Raindem

It's an interesting idea but not sure it's suitable for the current TOAW. You already have the option to go into the scenario editor and modify the OOB. I don't see the advantage of allowing it on-the-fly during a game.

Because in any campaign lasting more than a couple of months there are adjustments to the OOB. It has to do with cooperation levels and moving units where they are needed with the ability to cooperate with units already in a location. Really, I don't understand your last sentence.

However, considering the lack of ability to get this thing out the door in a respectable amount of time I would say no to adding anything that would delay this further.
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ORIGINAL: Raindem

It's an interesting idea but not sure it's suitable for the current TOAW. You already have the option to go into the scenario editor and modify the OOB. I don't see the advantage of allowing it on-the-fly during a game.

I would like to have such feature, even if having only aesthetic purpose, it would make much easier and pleasant to move hundreds of counters on large scenarios.

But, as others said, I don't think we are in a good place to ask for extra stuff in the game, we would be lucky to have the announced new features and the game released in a reasonable term (I guess sometime next year)
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Yes for major games like FITE and WINA and the like it is a major shortcoming nt having this - it's been suggested for a long time.
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Here's an old discussion on the merits and liabilities of such a mod:

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I would use this feature heavily. And I know others that have pointed this out as a concern of there's. This is needed, especially for scenarios of longer duration.

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Especially in theoretical future scenarios, where there is no historical precedent. Or fighting "What If" historical battles.
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ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

Here's an old discussion on the merits and liabilities of such a mod:

tm.asp?m=2582060

Thanks a lot, continuing to read this thread. It is really instructive.
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I like the proposal that was made by Bob at post #90 in this above thread. And since Ralph has pointed out that the changes are too big for a patch (post #109), I definitely forward to be heard on this request.

TOAW V looks a bit far away...
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And guys for the ETA, I would prefer to wait one more year to have this feature done.
This for two reasons:
1. I really would like the feature
2. TOAW IV would celebrate the 20 years of the game (1998 - 2018). Incredible for a game, no?

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ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

And guys for the ETA, I would prefer to wait one more year to have this feature done.
This for two reasons:
1. I really would like the feature
2. TOAW IV would celebrate the 20 years of the game (1998 - 2018). Incredible for a game, no?

OK - I am leaving the forum for tonight.
WE may have to wait another year and not have that feature [:D]
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It would seem that waiting is the 20 year "Feature"
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I'll sign your petition. I can't imagine playing GGs WitE without that feature. And - historically speaking - many minor units were frequently re-assigned. e.g. Heavy TD Battalions.
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Thanks, I agree with you [:)]
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I don't think it's included yet, isn't it?
I'll sign too.
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I do not think so too. But, the feature list has already other nice enhancements to implement.
Still hoping for this one later anyway.
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Always easy for us to say but the developers have to get it on sale as quick as they can as they do need to start making some income😊


ORIGINAL: ncc1701e

And guys for the ETA, I would prefer to wait one more year to have this feature done.
This for two reasons:
1. I really would like the feature
2. TOAW IV would celebrate the 20 years of the game (1998 - 2018). Incredible for a game, no?

OK - I am leaving the forum for tonight.
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