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Advance into Warsaw hangs the game

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Well, to be more precise:
it is J/A 1941 and Russia advances into Warsaw (heavy investment into Europe after Germany went into Spain and Japan trying to achieve things in China and west of Singapore).

Then the game hangs (it looks like MWiF gets stuck calculating something).
If the save is loaded this can be recreated by resolving the attack on Warsaw and then advance some Russian units into it.

I did work around this by NOT advancing into it and had Germany promise not to walk into Warsaw again -although they most likely wouldn't anyway ;-). Even so, still a bug so I report.
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It took MWIF on my laptop about 30 seconds to make calculations after I entered Warsaw with the USSR. So I can't recreate that bug, using the newest beta team test version. So it might well be that in the next patch, this problem is solved.
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ORIGINAL: Centuur

It took MWIF on my laptop about 30 seconds to make calculations after I entered Warsaw with the USSR. So I can't recreate that bug, using the newest beta team test version. So it might well be that in the next patch, this problem is solved.
Ah that's good news!
What version is that? I thought I was using the latest beta version already (2.2.8.0).
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You are using the latest public beta version. I'm using the latest beta version released by Steve for the test team. Now, sometimes that is an advantage, but other times... [;)]
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I hope it becomes a public beta soon, because it looks my assumption that I found a gentlemen's workaround, was a bit premature.

During the next land movement phase I still cannot move any Russian unit into Warsaw without getting the game to start a calculation that has no end [:(].
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If you save the file with all done but the move into Warsaw, then maybe I could use the beta tester version to advance the game past the issue and then give you back a file compatible with your version. Not sure it wouldn't get stuck again, but perhaps worth a try?
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I have reported this one in this thread tm.asp?m=4158882 so it´s possible that Steve have fixed it.
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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

If you save the file with all done but the move into Warsaw, then maybe I could use the beta tester version to advance the game past the issue and then give you back a file compatible with your version. Not sure it wouldn't get stuck again, but perhaps worth a try?
Let's try it [8D]. If you can change versions after your move, it should work, right?
Please just move the 1st guard GARR (directly east of Warsaw) into Warsaw. If you think I shouldn't move any other unit into Warsaw after that initial GARR (the one that will change control of it), please also move one of the 6-3INF into Warsaw (from the hex NE of Warsaw). Thanks a lot! Now just pray it 'll work.
I have reported this one in this thread tm.asp?m=4158882 so it´s possible that Steve have fixed it.
Looks like it, Viktor [:)].
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Definitely was fixed between 2.2.8.2 and 2.2.8.4. I know because I had not downloaded the last couple beta versions before this evening. It totally froze with 2.2.8.2 and took 5 seconds with 2.2.8.4.

Now hopefully it will stay fixed in 2.2.8. Let's keep our fingers crossed. [;)]

Here's the file. (Only the 6-1 Garr was moved in.)





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Thanks Paul, but it doesn't work [:(].
After a couple of seconds of restoring the file, instead of opening the maps and forms, calculations stop and nothing happens.

Does some1 have a workaround (and therefore, at least some clue about what causes this Warsaw-thing), as I am currently clueless about how to move past this obstacle. I am not thinking about continue playing and ignore Warsaw altogether.

@Viktor_Kormel:
you had this problem too, how did you move past this bugger?
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I suppose that's because the bug is in 2.2.8 and when you open a game MWiF will always calculate supply.

In hindsight, I should have tested that.
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OK this should work. I changed the hex control for Warsaw to USSR, then advanced the 6-1 then saved and re-opened. And it opened OK.

All this with version 2.2.8.1 which should be the same as 2.2.8 but with beta test tools enabled. Finally, I changed the game version in the attached file back to 2.2.8
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ORIGINAL: TeaLeaf

Thanks Paul, but it doesn't work [:(].
After a couple of seconds of restoring the file, instead of opening the maps and forms, calculations stop and nothing happens.

Does some1 have a workaround (and therefore, at least some clue about what causes this Warsaw-thing), as I am currently clueless about how to move past this obstacle. I am not thinking about continue playing and ignore Warsaw altogether.

@Viktor_Kormel:
you had this problem too, how did you move past this bugger?

Sorry , I left that game because this bug and another fatal bug in the next impulse. [:(]
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Thanks for the effort Paul!
But I still cannot open the modified game. Tough nut to crack.

I guess the problem lies in 2.2.8.0 itself indeed, rather than just the change of control of Warsaw.
I.o.w. If you just change hex control, My version 2.2.8.0 still cannot get past it in the opening calculations.
Strange then that you can open the file with 2.2.8.1 and I cannot, with 2.2.8.0 (though the GAM-file says 2.2.8,10,0) [&:].
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Well that's bizarre. Sorry it didn't work.
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Much appreciated anyway, but no worries:
I've read somewhere 2.3.0.0 will be available somewhere next week, which should end my game-stop.

If your 2.2.8.4 gets past the bugger in 5 seconds, my guess is 2.3.0.0 will do it in only 1 second [;)].
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This bugged me so much I downloaded the public beta to try 2.2.8 instead of 2.2.8.1 and when I loaded the save above into 2.2.8, MWiF terminated itself.

So then I tried doing as above and ending the phase. This included saying no to the reminder to move the Communist Chinese. Actually there were many Russian units eligible to move yet as well. But anyway the game progressed in 2.2.8.1 to the next moving major power which is Nationalist China. Then I saved the game and loaded it with the 2.2.8 version. It did not crash. Of course I can't guarantee you won't have problems with Russia on the next Allied impulse of the game but if you're willing to try one more time, so am I.

What I'll need is a file where you've left Warsaw open but moved all the other Russian units you want moved. Possibly you can switch back and forth using the flags at the top and also get the Chinese Communist units moved too, if you like. Then switch back to Russia and save the file and post it again here, I'll do as described above and return it.
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Sure thing Paul, here we go!

Please then move the 6-1GARR, 6-6ARM and the 1stENG into Warsaw.

BTW: if I try to load the saves (so far), MWiF still gets itself into a calculation it cannot get out of, because it looks the game never even starts, but when I open the taskmanager I can see the MWiF process running (which I manually terminate, ofc).
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Here it is ready to open at the Chinese Nationalist move.

I tested it on 2.2.8 but only this far. If you make it past the next Russian impulse, you should be OK.
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Thanks and I'll let you know when I am past next Russian impulse (could be a few days, since I have little time this weekend).
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