Partisans in Poland?

[Meteor2]

It is 24.Nov.39 and 2 rail hexes in Poland are destroyed by partisans.
I have not seen this before. Really intended?

[tigercub]

just park a division next to it no problem any more!

[Vonrich]

that seems off to me. I've never seen partisans in western Poland.

[Zovs]

Did you garrison Poland with the correct amount?

[tigercub]

every occupied country gets partisans!

[Meteor2]

Occupied ba 4 Corps (30) and 1 HQ-unit.
Partisans in Nov. 39 seems a little bit strange.

Not enough land units?

[AlvaroSousa]

Use divisions same effectiveness with the 6 adjacent hex radius protection. Guard key railways

[rjh1971]

ORIGINAL: Alvaro Sousa

Use divisions same effectiveness with the 6 adjacent hex radius protection. Guard key railways

Didn't division protect only the hex they were on and not its zone of control?
This is what the manual say in page 55:
"Partisans – Each country has a partisan value. Partisans turn rail
into damaged rail and only affect countries in which their owned
territory is now occupied by a country they are at war with. Any
unit protects vs partisans in their own hex. Corps and Armies
protect vs partisans in their hex and the surrounding 6 hexes."

So my understanding is you need a Corps or an Army to extend the protection to the unit six surrounding hexes.
Has it been changed so divisions can now exert protection into their surrounding hexes?

[PanzerMike]

Yes, is has been changed. Should be in the manual addendum, to be downloaded from the beta forum.

[pzgndr]

ORIGINAL: tigercub
every occupied country gets partisans!

I don't exactly agree with this for this scale of game. It forces players to get down to a level of micromanagement for minor local disruptions that do not need to be in a grand-strategy wargame. For me, I'll turn these off in the editor except for those countries that had organized partisan units.

[PanzerMike]

Partisans do not spawn units unless a country has scorched Earth (Spain, Turkey, Soviet Union). In those countries I place divisions at crucial rail junctions. These I also put in Garrison mode. I also keep a few mobile divisions in the rear guard. They will do whack a mole when needed.

I really have no problem with this. Partisans activity in France, Norway, etc is limited to damaged rail lines that auto repair. No whack a mole needed there. And the Soviet Union is manageable. It takes little time and hardly detracts from the real action.

So, all in all, I am okay with partisans in Warplan.

Just my 0,02

[pzgndr]

ORIGINAL: PanzerMike
Partisans do not spawn units unless a country has scorched Earth

The manual should clarify this for only scorched Earth countries and not each country? Poland should not be scorched Earth. But I'm not convinced this applies to partisan causing rail damage versus automatic rail damage:

page 60 – Both Germany and the USSR have scorched earth policies……
…change to… Germany, the USSR, Spain, and Turkey have scorched earth policies. Countries with this policy automatically damage rail as the enemy occupies hexes that switch control. Rail is repaired at a rate of 2 hexes per turn if the map supply level is 5 or higher.

So, Yugoslavia, Greece, France and others have partisans and not scorched earth. I think these are separate issues. There should be a subset of countries that had organized partisan activity that should spawn partisans, not every country. Not to the point where combat units need to be involved.

[AlvaroSousa]

Poland is not Scorched Earth.

To clarify partisans are simple. They will damage rail hexes. The key is blocking junctions and protecting resource hexes. It really doesn't take that much to cover for them. There are also a mountain of rail hexes in Europe so if one line gets cut it routes another direction. And even if somehow 3 rail lines get cut units still get supplies at a reduced rate. These are abstracted ratios over time. Is it unreasonable to say 10% of supplies were disrupted in the USSR? or 5%? When you math it out it average out.

Only Germany and the USSR have scorched earth and it says so in the rules.

You can't go around conquering nations and not expect to keep a garrison there. For those that play WIF you know what I mean.

[PanzerMike]

page 60 – Both Germany and the USSR have scorched earth policies……
…change to… Germany, the USSR, Spain, and Turkey have scorched earth policies. Countries with this
policy automatically damage rail as the enemy occupies hexes that switch control. Rail is repaired at a rate of 2 hexes per turn if the map supply level is 5 or higher.