Unable to declare war

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Unable to declare war

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Hi. I'm playing as Japan. Before the game I turned off Pearl Harbor/US nuke development etc. When I reached my build limit I switched to soft build. I also paid max MPPs to keep the USA out of the war.

This means it it not a very history based game. But why can't I declare war on Ireland after I occupy the UK? No declaration of war option and can't move any units in. Same for other territories like Madagasor.

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I have no clue. What the heck you trying to do, solve an Algebra III problem with multiple unknown variables? Let the Irish be in peace
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God bless Ireland. So far from heaven, so close to England. Or was that Wales?

To answer the question, it may be that you are unable to DoW if you are not at war with a 'parent' of the land you are trying to attack (e.g. France, if you are after Madagascar)
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Japan has a bit of limitations in countries to do diplomacy, most importantly, they cannot influence spain. Porbably ireland also not on the list, so they cannot DOW, but you can dow as germany, and in most case it will make the war state for all three axis nations madagascar is a trickier, since it should be on the japan list, but maybe not, try as germany too, or you migth already be war with them if vichy is joined the war, or they are part of france if france reunited. Or, if germany did the greater france surrender, it is actually german territory.
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I believe in an earlier post about this particular game he stated that Germany and Italy had already been defeated. So, the option to declare war on Ireland by any other Axis power might be gone. I wonder if as Japan you could liberate a defeated Germany or Italy and then get them to declare war on Ireland?

That does seem like a lot of work to acquire Ireland unless you really like the Guinness and the redheads.
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Hey, his nickname is Wobbleguts, anything possible for strategy. Will make a note in my opponents player's profile card of this guy. Dangerous.
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Japan cannot declare war on Ireland via the diplomacy screen, but it should be able to via the War Maps button at the top of the screen.

If you can give this a go in your game and confirm that would be great.
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I've got nothing against Ireland. Just thought that as my forces were nearby I might as well invade the place and get some Atlantic ports.

Dublin has the Irish flag displayed and is 11% pro axis (which is probably historically correct). Soviet ships are now docked in the ports the UK occupied earlier in the game.

The comments about Madagascar make sense because I am not at war with France. However, earlier in the game when I invaded UK territories I didn't have to declare on the UK itself - just the territory. AU and NZ then declared war on me, but not the UK. I don't think that happened until I carved up India.

Platoonist is right - this is the same game he mentioned. It's a bit silly now (no basis in reality) and I thought about quitting a few times but I want to try and defeat the USA. My attempts have not gone well so far.

I have a question though. In my game Italy and Germany have been defeated and occupied long ago. Yet they still appear in the top left hand corner of the main game screen and they have MPPs. Germany has 1529 and Italy 768. Both are also at 100% morale. How is this possible? Is there an eagles nest somewhere?

As for my forum nickname, Ii is Wobbleguts. I could have used Elvis but it would mean the same thing. Not sure why my nickname makes me an algebra freak and strategy maniac.

















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Hi,

Just checked this out and YES, there is a DOW option for both Ireland and Madagascar on the war map. Not in a position to do either at the moment but will do so soon. If it works (think it will), why can you do this via the map but not through diplomacy?

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Wobble,

Diplomacy can be used to sway countries to your side via chits, as well as declaring war. Countries that aren't on that screen are not suscpetible to your ambassadorial efforts.

Good to know you can DoW via the map, though. I Learned something today!
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Hi,

To confirm, declaring war via the war maps works. I am now controlling the entire worlds supply of Guinness and Leprechauns. I haven't invaded Madagascar yet, but when I do I will ship all the Leprechauns there.

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ORIGINAL: wobbleguts

I haven't invaded Madagascar yet, but when I do I will ship all the Leprechauns there.

Which is where they and their sugary Lucky Charms belong. [:D]

So, what is the Soviet Union doing in this unique game of yours? Sitting happily on a defeated Germany? Making any threatening moves?
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@wobblenuts --- maybe we need a battle, you can invade Northern Ireland, or do what you do. I'll do what I do. See how it turns out. Head over to the PBEM/Online button, setup a game & send me the password.

ORIGINAL: wobbleguts

I've got nothing against Ireland. Just thought that as my forces were nearby I might as well invade the place and get some Atlantic ports.

Dublin has the Irish flag displayed and is 11% pro axis (which is probably historically correct). Soviet ships are now docked in the ports the UK occupied earlier in the game.

The comments about Madagascar make sense because I am not at war with France. However, earlier in the game when I invaded UK territories I didn't have to declare on the UK itself - just the territory. AU and NZ then declared war on me, but not the UK. I don't think that happened until I carved up India.

Platoonist is right - this is the same game he mentioned. It's a bit silly now (no basis in reality) and I thought about quitting a few times but I want to try and defeat the USA. My attempts have not gone well so far.

I have a question though. In my game Italy and Germany have been defeated and occupied long ago. Yet they still appear in the top left hand corner of the main game screen and they have MPPs. Germany has 1529 and Italy 768. Both are also at 100% morale. How is this possible? Is there an eagles nest somewhere?

As for my forum nickname, Ii is Wobbleguts. I could have used Elvis but it would mean the same thing. Not sure why my nickname makes me an algebra freak and strategy maniac.

















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Russia has occupied most of Europe, including Spain and Italy The western allies are still independent, but there are RU units all over France. In the East, they have occupied Finland and pretty much everywhere else. The exceptions are Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia and Albania.

Despite their strong position they have been very quiet v Japan. Earlier in the game I did park some naval units in the red zone off Vladivostok. They attacked me so I withdrew. This was a local dispute and didn't lead to war, which I think is realistic. Since then, no hostilities. Have to beat USA quickly because if Russia does declare war I am stuffed.

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Hey, this is the 1st game of strategic command I've ever played. I'm still not sure what the rules are. The manual goes up to 10.6 in part 1, 5.2 in part 2. I am up to 6.1 in part 1. So I still have a long way to go.

Haven't read anything about PBEM yet so I can't respond to your challenge.

I still don't know why my nickname annoys you. You need to chill out. Try sitting on the dunny chewing a hamburger. That will help.
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Not sure what you're talking about. English must not be your native language.
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Go away
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Hi Wobbleguts,

Welcome aboard and I hope you enjoy the games [:)]

Feel free to continue to ask any questions, we are here to help, and maybe EJJR can respectfully dial it back a bit here in the meantime?

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Thanks for that post. Much appreciated.

I still have the question about defeated axis powers though.....In my game Italy and Germany have been defeated and occupied long ago. Yet they still appear in the top left hand corner of the main game screen and they have MPPs. Germany has 1529 and Italy 768. Both are also at 100% morale. How is this possible? Is there an eagles nest somewhere?

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I think I'll have to take a look at a saved turn to get a better idea, could you send me one to support@furysoftware.com?

Saved game files are typically found here:

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If the file is too big for email, you can send it via WeTransfer:

https://wetransfer.com

Just select 'No Thanks' and the 'Get Link' option and it is free and straightforward after that.
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