OT: UFO Bombshell: US Government Has Wreckage Material

[Dante Fierro]

UFO Bombshell: US Government Has Wreckage Material
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I9Yd4O5CDk

Thoughts?

[Jorge_Stanbury]

a lot of hyperbole on that link

the only news: "Pentagon UFO unit to publicly release some findings"... the rest is just conjectures from some crazy dude

[pmelheck1]

release some findings...

" We........ ahhhhh didn't find anything.... wasted tax payer money looking for something not out there."

[Shellshock]

Meh. I'd rather watch The Thing.

[RangerJoe]

Anything that is flying that can't be identified is a UFO. So think of just how many people see every day.

[Dante Fierro]

Anything that is flying that can't be identified is a UFO. So think of just how many people see every day.

True. But how often do you get reports from US aircraft carriers like the USS Nimitz? With experienced Naval pilots not only recording the 'UAP's, registering the objects on different technological platforms, but also stating they visually eye-balled the objects? [8|]

I'm not a UFO nut. Just find the latest two videos to surface pretty interesting ...

[RangerJoe]

Well, considering that there were two squadrons of F-117s that the rest of the Air Force knew nothing about, who knows if they did not see something secret yet man made.

[Jorge_Stanbury]

This is an interesting (but long) interview with one the pilots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ

I have no issue with what the pilot guy says and explains, on what he saw and experienced

but then there is this second guy that pretty much destroys any credibility by interpreting that this was an Alien. This is my issue with the UFO nuts; there are strange things that we don't understand, but then they try to push it into their nonsense, based on half truths, "maybe" statements, and all kind of scams and fraudsters

[Dante Fierro]

Yes, the Joe Rogan interview. I watched that interview. It's hard to believe the pilot made it all up. But I'm not any kind of UFO expert, or know anything about what it takes to become a pilot on a US aircraft carrier. Other than I imagine these guys are obviously pretty well trained.

[RangerJoe]

Just because people are trained does not mean that they have common sense. In fact, the more trained that they are, the less common sense that they have. Even/especially those with advanced technical training.

[Jorge_Stanbury]

Yes but once you have sensors locked on "something" it is hard to question the fact that something was there. This was not an old camera or some doctored video, but the sensors of an F-18

that said, we don't know, nobody knows, what was this "something" they got

[Dante Fierro]

that said, we don't know, nobody knows, what was this "something" they got

Agree, 'Don't know'. But that works both ways: you can't immediately assume it has off-world origin, but you can't also immediately assume it doesn't.

I really didn't follow Ufology too much until these two videos surfaced a few months ago, along with the corroborated naval pilot testimonies. Now it seems like they say they got material and other footage. So ... I don't know. Some people think this is some kind of military propaganda campaign so Americans will be gung-ho on funding the Space Marines project. I'm not sure if I buy into that line of thinking - I mean, congress and POTUS pretty much gives the pentagon whatever they want these days. Why concoct some wild UFO story??

[Rob322]

UFO is the perfect acronym. Unidentified Flying Object. The first word is key, Unidentified. That doesn't mean intelligent life from another planet or dimension or what have you, it means the observer could not successfully identify what they saw. I'll bet even trained pilots can't immediately ID everything they might possibly encounter in the air down to the make and model number.It's fun to believe in aliens and I'm not saying it isn't but there are easier answers out there.

[Dante Fierro]

but there are easier answers out there.

Sure. But this appears to be taken more serious than normal (at least by the DoD). And if you listen to the Joe Rogan interview of the Naval pilot, this 'UAP' performed aerial maneuvers that should not be possible given known US technology. And also had other features that do not match any known technology.

So, what is a reasonable explanation for what was tracked by several different platforms of tracking technologies on the USS Nimitz (and fighters themselves), was visually acquired by a veteran US aircraft carrier pilot, and of which more than one video footage was obtained?

Coupled again with the DoD now announcing they have off-world material. Which sounds like a storyline from Independence Day the movie or Arrival.

[Ian R]

[Ian R]

Oldy but a goody:

The "USO"

[Dante Fierro]

Could do without the ridicule Ian R.

The story was published in the New York Times and confirmed by the DoD.

[Ian R]

It is not ridicule Dante.

Did you read the NYT piece, or just watch the video? The article speaks of "the possible existence of retrieved materials from U.F.O.s." - a matter of conjecture. Nowhere does anyone say "DoD now announcing they have off-world material". Further, the two reporters in their previous articles (including one about a week ago) reported on some guy who said "he believed" and another fellow who said "he concluded" certain things. Neither is a statement of fact. A closer reading of what the ex-subcontractor allegedly says, is that he saw some material he didn't recognise that he thought might not be from earth. All that the DOD has confirmed is that they will make an announcement of some sort of "findings" that some committee has reached.

The video you posted exaggerates the nature of what was said and adds some hype. Please apply Occam's razor to this.

[Ian R]

Dante, here is the 23 July NYT article:

July 23 article

And please note the correction:

Correction: July 24, 2020

An earlier version of this article inaccurately rendered remarks attributed to Harry Reid, the retired Senate majority leader from Nevada. Mr. Reid said he believed that crashes of objects of unknown origin may have occurred and that retrieved materials should be studied; he did not say that crashes had occurred and that retrieved materials had been studied secretly for decades. An earlier version also misstated the frequency with which the director of national intelligence is supposed to report on unidentified aerial phenomena. It is 180 days after enactment of the intelligence authorization act, not every six months.

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ORIGINAL: Dante Fierro


UFO Bombshell: US Government Has Wreckage Material
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I9Yd4O5CDk

Thoughts?

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