What do supply bases DO?

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HansLemurson
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What do supply bases DO?

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What exactly are supply bases supposed to do. My understanding is that they increased the range of your trucks without necessarily requiring more trucks from a truck depot.

I've built 3 supply depots along a route out of my capital through a mountain pass to try to ensure logistics reaches the other side, but after going at full strength for a while, the logistics sharply drops off right after the 3rd Supply Base.

Clearly I'm misunderstanding something, since this Supply Base is blatantly failing in its job of extending my logistics range.

(I'm playing in the 1.4b11b patch, but in a game started on 1.4 official, if that makes a difference)
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In beta - Supply Base ADD a bit movement points (50/75/100, so ~5/7/10 more hexs) to each pack of logistics points moving through it.

Major issue that they AREN'T stack. If your pack of logistic points received a +50 MP from Supply Base - it will be NOT affected by another Supply Base lvl 1 and will get only +25 MP from lvl 2.

Still in beta they're much more useful - additional MP are much better then restoration of MP.

P.S. Discard that post if your game indeed started in 1.4 release as in this post I'm describing mechanic of 1.4beta1.
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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(I'm playing in the 1.4b11b patch, but in a game started on 1.4 official, if that makes a difference)

Are you sure that your game started on 1.4 and NOT beta1? As in 1.4 release Supply Bases simply increase REMAINING MP, so in theory you're capable to do what you want (but you will eat so huge admin penalty...).

In release 1.4 you should place Supply Bases right before hex where your LP will start to diminishing (for example on dirt road with truck station lvl 3 logistics could move 110/10 = 11 hexs before diminishing, so your Supply Base should be on 11 hex from city).
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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Supply bases increase Truck Action Points.

For reference, see also Where do I put a Supply Base?.

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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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Supply bases increase Truck Action Points.

For reference, see also Where do I put a Supply Base?.

Please note that this link is relevant only for obsolete game versions (1.0 - 1.4 release) as 1.4 beta1 get a rework of Supply Bases.

P.S. You need to update that post :P
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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ORIGINAL: Malevolence

Supply bases increase Truck Action Points.

For reference, see also Where do I put a Supply Base?.

Please note that this link is relevant only for obsolete game versions (1.0 - 1.4 release) as 1.4 beta1 get a rework of Supply Bases.

P.S. You need to update that post :P

You're welcome to update the thread if you think a change as impacted the details posted there.
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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Thanks for the info.
Hmm...so trucks passing through a Supply Base gain a one-time boost to their total range, but which cannot be further boosted by more supply-bases?

Truck Station = 10 square range
Truck Station + Supply Base = 15 square range
Truck Station + Supply Base + Supply Base = 15 square range.

And it doesn't matter where the Supply base is, just that the Trucks did in fact pass through it. Can you build a Truck Station and Supply Base in the same square for instant maximum logistics range?
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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Can you build a Truck Station and Supply Base in the same square for instant maximum logistics range?

Supply base cannot be built in a city.

demiare mentioned a re-work. It was actually a correction to bring supply bases in-line with the intended design. As the guide there was written to the design (not the bug) it remains correct.

Before the bug fix, you could put a supply base one hex outside the city and gain the same benefits. Not anymore. That bug was fixed.
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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ORIGINAL: HansLemurson

Thanks for the info.
Hmm...so trucks passing through a Supply Base gain a one-time boost to their total range, but which cannot be further boosted by more supply-bases?

Truck Station = 10 square range
Truck Station + Supply Base = 15 square range
Truck Station + Supply Base + Supply Base = 15 square range.

Yes for any game started in 1.04 beta1 or older.

No for any previous version - in that case you should place Supply Bases at distance as they're replenish used points, not providing additional.
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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So I just need one Supply Base that's positioned far enough down the road so that at least 50 AP have been consumed, so that the Supply Base can add its full 50 Extension-Points?
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RE: What do supply bases DO?

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So I just need one Supply Base that's positioned far enough down the road so that at least 50 AP have been consumed, so that the Supply Base can add its full 50 Extension-Points?

For 1.4 release - yes, you're correct. Again don't forget about admin penalty [;)]
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