Kong vs Godzilla aaaaaawesome

[MrsWargamer]

Easily the best monster movie ever made.

Spoiler alert, the ending will leave you cheering.

Kong fans and Godzilla fans will love it.

And this film makes mincemeat out of every superhero film ever made. They are only second place to this film.

The movie has great music too.

[Lobster]

Two guys in rubber suits. [:D]
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056142/?ref_=ttpl_pl_tt

Oh, you mean the new one. [;)]

[JWW]

I think upcoming Alien vs. Predator remake may be even better. Preview.

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[rommel222]

Greetings MrsWargamer,
I am old school and only watch the original, Japanese, Toho originals of Godzilla and King Kong vs Godzilla with english subtitles.
I find the later/newer stuff ard to watch.

The original, Japanese Rodan with subttitles is better than the English/American version as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fONQK87h1X0

The Comet tv channel has been showing all the Godzilla "retreads" every week. I tend to pass on them.

Same is true for King Kong, only the original will do along with Son of Kong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMNICLfHE3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBW0AXSFk9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKRXzMj-YKI

[MrsWargamer]

I tend to agree rommel.

I have the original and the one with Raymond Burr.

I loathe the one in New York. Godzilla is not a scrawny knocked up bitch for crying out loud. Trust Hollywood to bugger a classic. And it sure made the US military look horrendous.

The recent one where he fights the his and her bugs was ok, but not much action really. The most recent big monster fest was a bit of a disjointed effort. It didn't 'flow' well.

The new one though, great pacing, great visuals, great music. And I can't say more without spoiling it, so I won't.

[RFalvo69]

I liked Godzilla in the 2014 version. It had an unexpected elegance mixed with some virtuoso sequences (the scene on the bridge at night was hitchcockian, and the HALO launch was totally breathtaking - I remember my wife grabbing my arm when they jumped).

I also liked how Godzilla was showed sparingly in the first part and slowly revealed. Alas, people didn't like this. I haven't seen the sequel, but I'm told that it is wall-to-wall monster feast. Amen to that.

Having said that, Shin Godzilla by Hideaki Anno wipes the floor with all the rest. Truly a masterpiece [&o]

[MrsWargamer]

No argument regarding Shin Godzilla.

The breath attack, totally devastation.

And the Japanese military can actually hit a massive target with modern hi tech weapons When I watched the battle in New York it was "wow, Hollywood really hates the US military."

[RFalvo69]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

No argument regarding Shin Godzilla.

The breath attack, totally devastation.

And the Japanese military can actually hit a massive target with modern hi tech weapons When I watched the battle in New York it was "wow, Hollywood really hates the US military."

It has been interpreted as a criticism (via a satire) of how the Japanese government mismanaged the crisis at Fukushima. In a way, Shin Godzilla returns to his roots: the symbol of a nuclear trauma burned deep into the Japanese psyche.

Regarding the US military... Their performance against Zod forces in "Man of Steel" wasn't really exemplary... Even if I believe that the F-35 fell down from the sky all by themselves, not due to the Kryptonian's defences. [:)]

[AndySfromVA]

Saw the movie. Fell asleep in the middle. Lots of noise and mindless action, ridiculous plot.
The best thing about it is Millie Bobby Brown, an excellent actress (even in this movie).

[Lobster]

The wife and I watched it today. She fell asleep a few times. It was boring for long stretches. Kong: Skull Island was a bit better except for the stupidity of the helo pilots. Godzilla (2014) was also better. Nothing will touch the original King Kong movie.

I missed the toy soldiers from the Toho movies. [:D]

[MrsWargamer]

Hmm. Well, I would never want to say my movie opinions are perfect. But falling asleep during it? I think you need more rest

Mindless action? Really?
Silly Plot? Really?

I mean, it is about two very large mega monsters, who have beaten all other monsters to this point, dealing with each other. That's like arguing over whether Elves are realistic in a fantasy setting. They're elves.
I think most comic book superheoes by the bucket load movies lately are so right overboard to the point of nausea, that they've burned out the idea of using CGI in films entirely.

The latest incarnation of Justice League for instance. I couldn't care less what it's like. Good bad, whatever, that horse has been beaten into nothing but a red smear.
Even the superhero movies I liked, I don't want the dvd. Not worth the shelf space. I'll watch them on my TV through whatever method, if at all. I'm not spending a cent on them though.

These days, I'd rather read a good book for what a movie is intended to deliver. The pictures in my head are better than any amount of CGI.

[Lobster]

So Godzilla movies been beaten into a red smear? There's only 36 of them! King Kong movies? 18 of them.

Some animated, most not. So to talk about things beaten into a red smear. [:D]

Getting KK home was anti climatic. That really could have been expanded and much of the drivel eliminated to expand on that. The blog guy was almost pointless. The movie's plot line was way over rushed. Michael Bay probably would have made a better version. At least more explosions and less blah blah. He was really good at sinking carriers too. [;)]

But hey. Opinions and belly buttons, everyone has one. [8D]

[MrsWargamer]

No, I said Super hero comic book movies have been beaten to death.

I thought the blog guy was a bid for humour that was clumsy.

[Lobster]

Just to be sure you understand. Your opinion is as valid as anyone's. Not seen Justice League yet but not sure I want to sit through a four hour movie. I have a hard time with a movie much over two hours. My butt gets numb.

[RFalvo69]

ORIGINAL: Lobster

Just to be sure you understand. Your opinion is as valid as anyone's. Not seen Justice League yet but not sure I want to sit through a four hour movie. I have a hard time with a movie much over two hours. My butt gets numb.

Since it is on streaming you can consider it like a two-parter, or a four hour miniseries. There are even chapter titles intersped in the storyline.

As I wrote elsewhere, I don't see a reason to suggest this movie except if you are a fan of Snyder's specific style of shooting - and consider the various action scenes as videoclips (the final assault was the only really cool moment, but I had to live through 3+ hours of nonsense to reach it).

To give an example, I'll spoil a small thing story-wise but an incredible hole logic-wise. Both in Man of Steel and in Batman vs. Superman (I only watched the Director's Cut of BvS) the superhero action was grounded in reality. In MoS the US Army reacted in force to an alien invasion. BvS literally started with something that usually is hadwaved away: the enormous human toll and collateral damage that a superhero battle unavoidably causes. Here, we have a big battle in the middle of Metropolis and only two soldiers and a cop show up (?!?). There is a colossal superpowered battle in Russia, near Moscow, and no one shows up, not even a Russian helo.

An important part of the story is "a strong heat bloom" and only Bruce Wayne's satellites can see it. Notice that this heat bloom is nothing special. Is not a "sci-fi heat bloom" (for the lack of a better term) that can only be seen if you know some right frequences or such. It is a heat bloom visible from space. Is the World asleep?

Zack Snyder's Justice League is four hours of this and nothing more. Four hours wasted [8|]

[RFalvo69]

ORIGINAL: AndySfromVA

Saw the movie. Fell asleep in the middle. Lots of noise and mindless action, ridiculous plot.
The best thing about it is Millie Bobby Brown, an excellent actress (even in this movie).

I'm halfway in, just after the first big battle, and I got my first nosebleed.

Yes, MBB is usually good - pity that she is saddled with the tired "Godzilla just obliterated Pensacola (literally... I mean: how many people were killed? [X(]) but I'm plucky so just do know that he is good!" insufferable trope. Plus, the comic-relief sidekick. Plus "We find some guy that no one else in the planet was able to find because we ask around!"

(BTW: an extreme paranoid buys something in unusually enormous quantities from a single place that has his address? Seriously? He doesn't buy small doses in a lot of places and hasn't them delivered in, dunno, a shed that he keeps under remote surveillance anyway?)

No one warns the fleet that is escorting Kong that... you know, GODZILLA is on the hunt?

Big battle follows. Three movies in, and the US Navy still hasn't learned that their missiles don't even scratch Godzilla. In turn, they fire them while Godzilla attacks the ship where they chained Kong without being bothered by the fact that the ship is in the line of fire and full of civilians...

Godzilla and Kong sink more ships and kill more US Navy sailors than Pearl Harbor and Savo Island combined, but we are supposed to root for them anyway. (Who concocted this whole plan anyway? No one saw all of this coming?!)

Rebecca Hall is underused too. Very underestimated actress. "The Awakening" was one of the best ghost stories of the last few years. Nothing to do for her here.

More to follow, sadly [:(]

[Lobster]

One of the times my wife was awake during the movie I asked her why they didn't airlift the monkey in the first place. [:D]

Someone commented that they were taking a route that was Godzilla free. Did they have a tracking device on him? This movie had so many holes it must have been made in Switzerland. I realize it's a fantasy movie but there has to be some things that are grounded in the real world. Even Toho knew that and tried to use more logic. [;)]

BTW, the Japanese mostly defeated Godzilla with science. The U.S. used a little girl. [8D]

[MrsWargamer]

You guys actually expect rational, reasonable, realistic, in a movie where a guy can fly because of sunshine?
Where a man can fly fast enough to reverse time, but can't beat up a guy in advanced hi-tech body armour.
Come on.

The movie has a massive ape, who really is just a very large gorilla, nothing more magical, versus a very radioactive mutated lizard looking aquatic primitive dionsauroidish creature that can breathe fire and when really pisses can generate blasts of nuclearish, laserlike electrical energy beams.
But you want attention to logical detail?
Why would a plane that can engage targets from miles away, need to fly within arms reach of these monsters? Well, the monster's arms are only several feet long eh. They'd never be able to hit them if they flew out of reach. That wouldn't be fair or very dramatic.
As for troop casualties, well, it's supposed to be dangerous in the military right?

I suppose CGI can't yet simulate 100s and thousands of human bodies from all the sudden carnage of a monster being bodily thrown through a major urban structure.
So I'm not going to be that demanding.

But I'm kinda tired of comic superhero films being some form of superhero convention. Hey, let's mash up every character from the entire range of comic books that Marvel or DC has under their possession. I'm just wondering why no one has ever thought of to do Marvel vs DC. Maybe they would argue over who owned the movie.

Plots are routinely a hassle, but that's because authors know how to write books and not movies, and directors know how to direct movies, but not how to write books. Usually.
So books tend to have better plots. And movies tend to have better action. But you rarely get something that is both.
I hated the film Dune, because it wasn't the book Dune. Maybe if Frank Herbert was also a great director.
Perhaps if a director had ever written a great novel, they'd understand why sometimes the best action sequences can only be written down, not actually filmed. The best pictures appear in my head. I never watch the television version of my romance novels. They're always inferior.

Kong vs Godzilla IS a great movie.

But the world isn't Hollow, at all, in any way shape, or fashion. It isn't flat either. And nuclear waste won't feed monsters. And monsters will age like anything else living. They need a real ecosystem. They need to reproduce like all other life forms. They require a diet that has to come from something replenishable. And there, several of my knowledge sets ending in ology have just ruined everything

I don't like porn either. Too Fake, waaaaay to fake.

Best part of the movie, the little girl.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

Easily the best monster movie ever made.

warspite1

I hear its based on a true story....

[Lobster]

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

The movie has a massive ape, who really is just a very large gorilla,

Oh, Rampage is a fair movie with a big ape. I don't mean Dwayne Johnson, I mean the gorilla. Mighty Joe Young (1949) also, the original, not the lame remake.

ORIGINAL: MrsWargamer

But the world isn't Hollow, at all, in any way shape, or fashion.

Wut? [&:]
But Brendan Fraser went there in 2008. I saw it right there on the tv. [&:]