Any way to choose race of colonists to load on a colony ship?

[ppga]

Is there some way to tell a colony ship what race of colonists to load up from on a multi-racial world?

Auto-colonization is annoyingly not always choosing the appropriate race for the target planet.

I'm currently 'fixing' that by just using the game editor ro change the race to the appropriate one, but would prefer not to have to do that.

[zgrssd]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

[battlefield91]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

Not true. Set the pop you want on the colony ship on "resettle" and every other on "Assimilate". Then load the colony ship.

[zgrssd]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

Not true. Set the pop you want on the colony ship on "resettle" and every other on "Assimilate". Then load the colony ship.

How do you even order to load the colony ship?

[battlefield91]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

Not true. Set the pop you want on the colony ship on "resettle" and every other on "Assimilate". Then load the colony ship.

How do you even order to load the colony ship?

Have a empty colony ship selected, hover over the planet with your mouse and hold down right mouse button. Then a list should popup. There you can order "Load colonist". To avoid that the AI automaticly fills in the colony ship, have it set to "manual" for newly build ships in your Empire Policy.

[Badbonez]

There is definitely a bug, or more than one.

ATTACHMENT 1 (and 1a)
I have a planet, Wurtal 1, which is a desert planet, best suited to Securan. When I go to the colony screen and click the Colonize button, a colony ship begins being built at Gurqi 1, which has a population of 32m Securans and 103m Humans. I don't know what the ship will do, but my experience is that it will try to start filling the ship at that location. That's a bad choice. But maybe it chose that because it was closest and had available materials.

Also, that planetary port is already building something, so I think it would be better to prioritize build locations to a port that is available AND has the correct race.
(I reloaded this save 3 times and clicked the colony button, the AI always selected Gurqi 1 as the build planet.

ATTACHMENT 2
So instead of waiting for that ship to build, after the space port. I built a colony ship at my home world, set to automatic. I then went to the Colony screen, selected Wurt 1 to colonize. When the colonizer was built, it immediately began filling colonists from the Homeworld,

100% human.

Again, bad choice. This is a desert planet.

The expected behavior is for the colony ship to travel to an appropriate planet to fill with appropriate colonists. Or, if on Manual, allow me to select that colony ship, right click on the planet I want it to fill from, and select the appropriate population. But it's clear the auto process is not working. Hope these saves help.

Unfortunately, each of these saves are 11mb, so I cannot upload them here. You can find the saves here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

ADDENDUM:
ATTACHMENT 3
I took that manual colony ship from above and sent it to refuel at a Securan desert planet (100% Securan population). Hoping that when I set up a world to colonize it would take the population from the closest planet. I then put the colony ship on auto, went to Wurtal 1 and clicked Colonize. After a few seconds, the colony ship indicated it was going to the planet Aretusk to fill with colonists. Aretusk is populated overwhelmingly with humans.


So I have no viable way to colonize any of my desert worlds with an appropriate population until my current desert worlds get enough resources to build colony ships. That is a whole lot of bother for an emperor to deal with.

[zgrssd]

I think planets below a certain population are not eligible for Colonist retreival.
"This planet is still growing - do not start removing population. In fact, add population via Migration"

I would guess the threshold is at 500M.
That figure is used in a lot of places.

[Badbonez]

I think planets below a certain population are not eligible for Colonist retreival.
"This planet is still growing - do not start removing population. In fact, add population via Migration"

I would guess the threshold is at 500M.
That figure is used in a lot of places.

That does not seem to be true. Look at the first and final image in my post above, you will see both colonies have less than 500m yet the colony ship was still drawing from there. Also kind of misses the point of this thread, which is how to get the AI to select appropriate colonists for any given world.

[zgrssd]

I think planets below a certain population are not eligible for Colonist retreival.
"This planet is still growing - do not start removing population. In fact, add population via Migration"

I would guess the threshold is at 500M.
That figure is used in a lot of places.

That does not seem to be true. Look at the first and final image in my post above, you will see both colonies have less than 500m yet the colony ship was still drawing from there. Also kind of misses the point of this thread, which is how to get the AI to select appropriate colonists for any given world.

You Homeworlds starts with 2000M and yours has grown to 7497M.
Those numbers are a order of Magnitude bigger then 500M

[Badbonez]

I think planets below a certain population are not eligible for Colonist retreival.
"This planet is still growing - do not start removing population. In fact, add population via Migration"

I would guess the threshold is at 500M.
That figure is used in a lot of places.

That does not seem to be true. Look at the first and final image in my post above, you will see both colonies have less than 500m yet the colony ship was still drawing from there. Also kind of misses the point of this thread, which is how to get the AI to select appropriate colonists for any given world.

You Homeworlds starts with 2000M and yours has grown to 7497M.
Those numbers are a order of Magnitude bigger then 500M

You obviously did not read the entire post. The colony ship should not have drawn from Homeworld. This is about colonizing a desert world. Humans are not the best choice, the colony ship should not be drawing humans, I have Securans in my empire.. But if you read further you will see:

After a few seconds, the colony ship indicated it was going to the planet Aretusk to fill with colonists. Aretusk is populated overwhelmingly with humans.

Look at the last image I spent time including, it is clearly not 500m population. And it has a low percentage of Securans. And while you're at it, look at the first image I included and read the part about the colony ship being built there. Guiq 1 doesn't even have 200m population. It should not draw from their either.

Again, this is not about colony ships being able to load colonists. This about the colony ship loading appropriate colonists.

[battlefield91]

Have you read my post? The only way to control which pop get´s loaded onto a colony ship is to do it manually.

[zgrssd]

That does not seem to be true. Look at the first and final image in my post above, you will see both colonies have less than 500m yet the colony ship was still drawing from there. Also kind of misses the point of this thread, which is how to get the AI to select appropriate colonists for any given world.

You Homeworlds starts with 2000M and yours has grown to 7497M.
Those numbers are a order of Magnitude bigger then 500M

You obviously did not read the entire post. The colony ship should not have drawn from Homeworld. This is about colonizing a desert world. Humans are not the best choice, the colony ship should not be drawing humans, I have Securans in my empire.. But if you read further you will see:

After a few seconds, the colony ship indicated it was going to the planet Aretusk to fill with colonists. Aretusk is populated overwhelmingly with humans.

Look at the last image I spent time including, it is clearly not 500m population. And it has a low percentage of Securans. And while you're at it, look at the first image I included and read the part about the colony ship being built there. Guiq 1 doesn't even have 200m population. It should not draw from their either.

Again, this is not about colony ships being able to load colonists. This about the colony ship loading appropriate colonists.

You do not seem to understand:
If the Automatic can not grab from a colony with less then 500M Poplation, that 1st Planet was never eligible to source the colonists.

Honestly, it not picking that planet is entirely expected.
New colonies have to grow to even start being productive.

You can not take 30-60M off them at that time. Or 100M with my Upgraded, redesigned Colonyship.

[Badbonez]

Have you read my post? The only way to control which pop get´s loaded onto a colony ship is to do it manually.

I read your post, but you assume the colony ship goes to a planet with multiple races, It does not always do that. if you read my example the colony ship went to my Homeworld which has a 100% human population. I was trying to colonize a desert planet, it should go to a planet with a race more suitable to desert planets, in my case, Securans.

[Badbonez]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

Exactly, this is the problem. It is not drawing from the most appropriate population, right now the AI just pulls every race on the planet, regardless of suitability. It should only load the most suitable population for the target planet.

[Calacorm]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

Not true. Set the pop you want on the colony ship on "resettle" and every other on "Assimilate". Then load the colony ship.

This is a fairly big thing, hard to figure out.
I am human primary.
The colony ships on auto do not draw the appropriate population when you queue up a desert for your teekans for example. They fly and pick up the primary population and then the colony request cancels since the humans have negative suitability. 50 million humans floating in space and you can't put them back.

The key to force it was to set the teekans as migrate in the population tab, only them. Now the colony ships will collect them if you do it manually, not the humans, did not try it on auto.

I did it and it worked, I got some teekans off a shit planet and put them on a desert.

But the new colony goes directly into rebellion, could be a bug, maybe the population loses their assimilation status when you colonise with them? Work around was to bring some troops and drop a garrison right away! I had to fight it back after it switched to independent however, but there is a small window to get troops in before it flips.

[zgrssd]

No manual way to load them.
If the ship is on automatic and a colonisation is queued, it will usually pick a colony with a fitting population.
However, it grabs every population type from the planet - not just the actuall one that is suitable.

Not true. Set the pop you want on the colony ship on "resettle" and every other on "Assimilate". Then load the colony ship.

This is a fairly big thing, hard to figure out.
I am human primary.
The colony ships on auto do not draw the appropriate population when you queue up a desert for your teekans for example. They fly and pick up the primary population and then the colony request cancels since the humans have negative suitability. 50 million humans floating in space and you can't put them back.

The key to force it was to set the teekans as migrate in the population tab, only them. Now the colony ships will collect them if you do it manually, not the humans, did not try it on auto.

I did it and it worked, I got some teekans off a shit planet and put them on a desert.

But the new colony goes directly into rebellion, could be a bug, maybe the population loses their assimilation status when you colonise with them? Work around was to bring some troops and drop a garrison right away! I had to fight it back after it switched to independent however, but there is a small window to get troops in before it flips.

With Migration, I noticed that any species reaching the planet for the first time starts at 0 Assimilation.

Definitely sure that is a bug. At least it should use the average assimilation across the empire. Ideally 100, as they went there willingly.

[WiZz]

I hope devs will add the way to load colonists manually with possibility to choose.