1941 Hitler's Dream - New Scenario

[IslandInland]

Alternate Historical Background

In this alternate history Poland is the only country Germany has invaded. As with our timeline this campaign lasted just over a month before the Poles capitulated

The UK and France signed no treaties guaranteeing the sovereignty of Poland. Poland fought and lost alone. The Germans then built up their forces for the only war Hitler really wanted: the invasion and destruction of the Soviet Union.

A pro-German coup in Yugoslavia saved Hitler the trouble of invading. Mussolini warned and threatened in equal measure by Hitler embarked on no foreign adventures in Africa or south-eastern Europe. Greece remained independent and neutral as did Belgium, Denmark, Norway and the Netherlands in the west.

The now isolationist British are content to occupy themselves with their empire and want no part of another bloody continental war. An "Empire First" grass roots political movement came to power a few years after the Great War and the UK no longer looks towards Europe confident the largest navy in the world can protect them from any aggression directed at them from European shores. Winston Churchill, a former politician turned artist, told anyone who would listen that Hitler was a menace and that Britain should rearm was commonly derided as a warmonger.

Hitler, an ardent admirer of the British Empire, is content to let the British rule their quarter of the world while he only has eyes for the Germanic destiny of lebensraum in the East.

After a brief civil war in the first half of the 1930s a fascist government took power in France. This regime is sympathetic to Nazi Germany and wishes them success in their quest to rid Europe of Bolshevism. Whilst the French government has chosen not to participate in the anti-communist crusade so soon after their own civil war some Frenchmen anticipating the coming war of ideologies have crossed the border and joined the German Army. Other like minded individuals from across Europe have also joined the German armed forces.*

In the US President Lindbergh recently returned from a state visit to Nazi Germany. He found Herr Hitler a "most amicable fellow" and hoped the return visit would see Hitler in Washington DC soon where he would be granted the honour of staying in the White House for the duration of his visit. After Stalin and the Soviet Union had been dealt with Hitler promised his next journey would be to the United States.

In military circles in Tokyo high-ranking staff officers are openly discussing the new war plans which would see Japan secure its oil resources by invading and capturing the Dutch East Indies. Wisely Admiral Yamamoto stubbornly refused to include in the plan any sort of attack on the US or the British Empire. The Netherlands was half a world away and without any allies could do very little to stop the Japanese taking the oil-rich East Indies. Better to leave the Americans alone and not provoke that particular sleeping giant. After all, President Lindbergh has been very generous in his dealings with Japan since coming to power.


*NOTE: There are just the historic foreign SS units. No new units have been created in this scenario.


Theatre Boxes and Reinforcements

The only active Theatre Boxes (TB) are Axis Reserves (AR), Finland (FIN) and Soviet Garrison (SG).

Western Europe (WE), North Africa (NA), Italy (IT), Balkans (BA), Norway (NO) Theatre Boxes are inactive.

If a unit (ground or air) was due to arrive in any of the now inactive TBs then the unit will arrive in AR.

Any units that were in the now inactive TBs have been moved to AR.

Delays and reinforcement schedules have not been changed. The units will still arrive on the date they did historically but now they will arrive on the Map or in the AR, SG or FIN TBs.

What has changed is the internal withdrawals and transfers between TBs.

I have cancelled some of the transfers to SG because it was easier to cancel all of the transfers for a unit and then not have to reinstate any transfers to SG. SG still has to be populated as normal. I have not made any changes to the requirements for FIN or SG TBs. The difference now is you can decide which units you send to SG. You can send all the Rumanians or Italians if you like.

All Finnish units remain in the FIN TB. I have unlocked the German units in the FIN TB so they can be moved but you will need to replace them with other German units of your choice. Only Finnish and German units can be sent to the FIN TB. You cannot send the Italians, Rumanian or Hungarians there. As far as I am aware these restrictions are hardcoded and there is nothing I can do about them.

In the Reinforcement screen all you should see under the "To" column is MAP, Axis Reserves, Finland and Soviet Union Garrison as they are the only 4 destinations a unit can ever have.


German Amphibious Task Forces

The Baltic and Black Sea TFs are in this scenario. I used the 1941 No Early End Campaign as my template and in this they are delayed out of the scenario. I reinstated them. The Baltic TF can be found in the port of Hel in the Bay of Danzig and the Black Sea TF will arrive at Constanta in Rumania on the Black Sea coast on 20th July 1941 (Turn 4).

My reasoning for doing this is historically Germany had a sea-lift capacity in the Baltic during WW II and with the UK and France being neutral there would be nothing to stop the Germans sending some ships through the Mediterranean to the Black Sea and also Rumania would have had some shipping which could have been placed at the disposal of the Axis high command.


Game Events and Lend-Lease

I have made inactive all Events which involve or include the Western Allies (UK, US) and all Events pertaining to any of the inactive Theatre Boxes.
Lend-Lease was a problem which I think (and hope) I have solved. I tried changing the size to zero for all Lend-Lease factories but they would always change back to default and the same happened when I deleted the Lend-Lease locations or factories.
In the end I arrived at a simple and elegant solution. Or at least it will be if it proves to work. What I did was for each of the 3 Lend-Lease Locations (Pacific, North, South) set the Historical City Owner Change on 22 June 1941 to the Western Allies. So in theory the Soviets should see none of the Lend-Lease stuff. I have played head to head up to Turn 10 and so far the Soviets have received nothing from the Western Allies.


Country and Region Specific HQ Units

I thought long and hard about these units and what to do with them. In the end I decided to do nothing. They can be brought to the map and you can use WMBef. Denmark as an army HQ in the Caucasus. I thought about delaying them out of the scenario and adding their manpower to the manpower pool, I thought about removing them and not adding their numbers to any of the pools as this could simulate the border forces Hitler would have needed in the west and south east. I considered renaming them but I came to the conclusion it is probably best to leave them as they are. The Axis player will probably just disband them whilst they are in the Axis Reserves as they will never have a shortage of higher HQ units. If you wish to consider them locked into the AR even though they are not as that goes against the philosophy of the scenario.


In conclusion Hitler effectively has at his disposal not only the armed forces of Germany but also the armies and air forces of Italy, Finland, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia.


If you play this and see anything that doesn't fit with the criteria laid out above then please let me know in this thread. I have noticed the Italian units in the AR have “Frozen for 249 turns” on their detail screen but if you bring them to the map they are not frozen and can be used as normal.

Sometimes support units do not show up in the Commanders Report. In my playtest I brought 3 Italian arty battalions from the AR and were not visible in the CR. I eventually found them attached to German 4th and 9th Army HQs. I do not know why this is. I suspect it is something to do with the game coding itself and not my scenario as such. In the editor I attached any Italian support unit which did not have a higher HQ set to OKH. If you bring an Italian support unit to the map I would recommend you have already brought either Italian 8th Army HQ, Italian Expeditionary Corps HQ or Italian Alpini Corps HQ to the map as most of the other Italian support units are attached to these HQs.


I intend to create a version of this scenario where the Soviets have no TB boxes other than Northern Front and Soviet Reserves (Stalin's Dream).

Then I intend to combine the two scenarios together to create a truly titanic war in the east where the Axis and Soviets have all units available to them. (Dual Dictator Dreams)


A Note To Anyone Who Plays This Scenario

The in-game editor is currently being worked on by the devs and consequently I will hold off on making any changes to this scenario until all the improvements to the editor have been thorougly tested and completed. The last thing I want to do is edit my scenario with the new editor and find it is irreparably damaged.

Thank you for your patience

[IslandInland]

This version of the scenario doubles the amount of Soviet AP per turn from 25 to 50 in order to give them a chance to weather the Axis onslaught.

This has not been tested and may prove to be too much or too little for the Soviets.

[IslandInland]

I have uploaded new versions of the scenarios.

They are the same as before but I have added a picture to the zip for the event which fires at the beginning of the scenario.

Drop hitdream.jpg in the events folder which is in Gary Grigsby's War in the East 2>Dat>Art>events.

Place 1941 Campaign - Hitler's Dream.jpg, 1941 Campaign - Hitler's Dream.scn and 1941 Campaign - Hitler's Dream.txt files into the Scen folder of your War In The East 2 install. The Scen folder is inside the Dat folder of your main War In The East 2 folder.

You will see all the other scenarios that come with the game in the Scen folder.

[IslandInland]

Additional Notes

If you are transferring HQ units from the AR to the map I would recommend setting their support level to 0 before transfer as the game will strip HQs already on the map to provide the newly arrived HQ with support units. This applies even more so if you are transferring a large number of HQs from the AR to the map. You can set the support level to 0 for all units in the AR in the Commanders Report without having to do it one by one.

Some HQs in the AR have units attached to them. You can see this in the editor though in game they will not be visible. For example OB West has several divisons, panzer regiments and sundry support units attached but if you view the unit in the AR in game it will show no units attached. If you were to bring OB West to the map it would not bring the units attached to it with it. They would remain in the AR. If you wanted to disband OB West in the AR it would have no bearing on the units attached. If you wish to be extra careful you could consider bringing a HQ unit to the map and then disbanding it but I don't think there is any need for this level of caution.


I will add to this post as I delve deeper and explore the scenario more.

[IslandInland]

Formations in Axis Reserves at start of Hitler's Dream Scenario ORGANISED BY TYPE AND NATION

Drill Down In CR for further detail.

66 German Divisions of all types - 27 Inf, 31 Sec, 4 Armoured, 1 Mot, 1 Airborne, 2 Mtn
868,514 Men 5,768 Guns 477 AFV

69 Italian Divisions of all types - 39 Inf, 3 Armoured, 11 Motorised, 2 Cav, 14 Mtn
505,174 Men 6,235 Guns 626 AFV

HQ High Commands and Army Groups German [2]
OKW
OB West

HQ High Commands and Army Groups Italian [4]
Italian High Command
Ital. Southeast Army Group
Regia Aeronautica
General HQ North Africa

HQ Armies German [9 Heer 4 LW]
1st Army
7th Army
12th Army
15th Army
Norway Army
WMBef. Belgium
WMBef. Denmark
WMBef. France
WMBef. Holland
LW Kdo Middle
Luftflotte 3
Luftflotte 5
Italian Luftwaffe Command

HQ Armies Italian [5]
2nd Ital. Army
4th Ital. Army
6th Ital. Army
9th Ital. Army
11th Ital. Army

HQ Corps German [17]
German Africa Corps
Norway Territorial Mountain Corps
Fortress Crete Corps
XI Fallschirm Flieger Corps
XVIII Mountain Corps
XXV Corps
XXVII Corps
XXXI zbV Corps
XXXII zbV Corps
XXXIII Corps
XXXVII zbV Corps
XXXX Motorised Corps
XXXXV zbV Corps
LIX zbV Corps
LX zbV Corps
LXV zbV Corps
LXX zbV Corps

HQ Corps Italian [24]
Armoured Ital. Corps
Celere Cavalry Ital. Corps
I Ital. Corps
II Ital. Corps
III Ital. Corps
IV Ital. Corps
V Ital. Corps
VI Ital. Corps
VII Ital. Corps
VIII Ital. Corps
IX Ital. Corps
X Ital. Corps
XI Ital. Corps
XII Ital. Corps
XIII Ital Corps
XIV Ital. Corps
XV Ital. Corps
XVI Ital. Corps
XVII Ital. Corps
XIX Ital. Corps
XX Mot. Ital. Corps
XXI Ital. Corps
XXV Ital. Corps
XXVI Ital. Corps

Armour German [9] [4 divisions]
2nd Panzer Division
5th Panzer Division
15th Panzer Division
5th Light Division
201st Panzer Regiment
202nd Panzer Regiment
203rd Panzer Regiment
204th Panzer Regiment
212th Panzer Battalion

Armour Italian [3]
131st Centauro Ital. Armoured Division
132nd Ariete Ital. Armoured Division
133rd Littorio Ital. Armoured Division

Mechanised [1]
Fuehrer Begleit Infantry Battalion

Motorised German [3] [1 division]
90th Light Afrika Motorised Division
288th Special Purpose Battalion
Netherlands Mot. SS Infantry Regiment

Motorised Italian [12] [11 divisions]
10th Piave Ital. Motorised Division
16th Pistoia Ital. Motorised Division
17th Pavia Ital. Motorised Division
25th Bologna Ital. Motorised Division
27th Brescia Ital. Motorised Division
60th Sabratha Ital. Motorised Division
101st Trieste Ital. Motorised Division
102nd Trento Ital. Motorised Division
103rd Piacenza Ital. Motorised Division
104th Mantova Ital. Motorised Division
136th Giovani Fascisti Ital. Motorised Division
10th Ital. Mot. Bersaglieri Regiment

Infantry German [43] [27 divisions]
69th Infantry Division
81st Infantry Division
82nd Infantry Division
83rd Infantry Division
88th Infantry Division
93rd Infantry Division
96th Infantry Division
98th Infantry Division
163rd Infantry Division
164th Infantry Division
181st Infantry Division
196th Infantry Division
199th Infantry Division
205th Infantry Division
208th Infantry Division
211th Infantry Division
212th Infantry Division
214th Infantry Division
215th Infantry Division
216th Infantry Division
218th Infantry Division
223rd Infantry Division
225th Infantry Division
227th Infantry Division
246th Infantry Division
260th Infantry Division
344th Static Division - wrong TOE in editor - should be Security
638th LVF French Infantry Regiment
361st Mot. Separate Infantry Regiment
388th Grenadier Separate Infantry Regiment
Oslo Separate Infantry Regiment
125th Mot. Separate Infantry Regiment
Flandern SS Infantry Battalion
373rd Wallonian Infantry Battalion
III/241st Infantry Battalion
III/255th Infantry Battalion
III/258th Infantry Battalion
III/268th Infantry Battalion
III/347th Infantry Battalion
Denmark SS Infantry Battalion
Finnish SS Infantry Battalion
Norway SS Infantry Battalion
233rd Bicycle Infantry Battalion

Infantry Italian [43] [39 divisions]
5th Cosseria Ital. Infantry Division
6th Cuneo Ital. Infantry Division
7th Toscana Ital. Infantry Division
11th Brennero Ital. Infantry Division
12th Sassari Ital. Infantry Division
13th Re Ital. Infantry Division
14th Isonzo Ital. Infantry Division
15th Bergamo Ital. Infantry Division
18th Messina Ital. Infantry Division
19th Venezia Ital. Infantry Division
20th Fruili Ital. Infantry Division
21st Sardegna Ital. Infantry Division
22nd Alpi Ital. Infantry Division
23rd Ferrara Ital. Infantry Division
24th Pinerolo Ital. Infantry Division
28th Aosta Ital. Infantry Division
29th Piemonte Ital. Infantry Division
30th Sabauda Ital. Infantry Division
31st Calabria Ital. Infantry Division
32nd Marche Ital. Infantry Division
38th Puglie Ital. Infantry Division
41st Firenze Ital. Infantry Division
44th Cremona Ital. Infantry Division
47th Bari Ital. Infantry Division
48th Taro Ital. Infantry Division
49th Parma Ital. Infantry Division
50th Regina Ital. Infantry Division
51st Siena Ital. Infantry Division
53rd Arezzo Ital. Infantry Division
54th Napoli Ital. Infantry Division
55th Savona Ital. Infantry Division
56th Casale Ital. Infantry Division
57th Lombardia Ital. Infantry Division
58th Legnano Ital. Infantry Division
201st Ital. Coastal Division
202nd Ital. Coastal Division
203rd Ital. Coastal Division
204th Ital. Coastal Division
205th Ital. Coastal Division
28th Ital. CCNN Legion
36th Ital. CCNN Legion
79th Ital. CCNN Legion
95th Ital. CCNN Legion

Airborne [1]
7th Flieger Division

Cavalry [2]
1st Savoia Ital. Celere Division
2nd Ferro Ital. Celere Division

Artillery German [13]
II/2nd Lehr Gun Battalion
510th Mixed Artillery Battalion
II/115th Howitzer Battalion
I/155th sFH Heavy Howitzer Battalion
II/155th sFH Heavy Howitzer Battalion
III/155th Mixed Artillery Battalion
408th Heavy Cannon Battalion
523rd Coastal sFH Heavy Howitzer Battalion
528th Coastal sFH Heavy Howitzer Battalion
529th Coastal sFH Heavy Howitzer Battalion
532nd Coastal sFH Heavy Howitzer Battalion
I/231st Heavy Cannon Battalion
716th Heavy Cannon Battalion

Artillery Italian [3]
XXI/6th Ital. Light Gun Battalion
CLXII/6th Ital. Heavy Howitzer Battalion
CCIX/6th Ital. Medium Howitzer Battalion

Anti Air [76]
2nd Marine Flak Regiment
6th Marine Flak Regiment
20th Marine Flak Regiment
22nd Marine Flak Regiment
216th Marine Flak Battalion
226th Marine Flak Battalion
229th Marine Flak Battalion
232nd Marine Flak Battalion
242nd Marine Flak Battalion
808th Marine Flak Battalion
5th Motorised Flak Regiment
39th Motorised Flak Regiment
40th Motorised Flak Regiment
201st Motorised Flak Regiment
431st Motorised Flak Regiment
8th Flak Regiment
14th Flak Regiment
15th Flak Regiment
24th Flak Regiment
30th Flak Regiment
44th Flak Regiment
45th Flak Regiment
46th Flak Regiment
47th Flak Regiment
49th Flak Regiment
64th Flak Regiment
100th Flak Regiment
111th Flak Regiment
124th Flak Regiment
126th Flak Regiment
129th Flak Regiment
132nd Flak Regiment
141st Flak Regiment
144th Flak Regiment
152nd Flak Regiment
613th Motorised Army Light Flak Battalion
615th Motorised Army Light Flak Battalion
851st LW Motorised Light Flak Battalion
861st LW Motorised Light Flak Battalion
751st LW Light Flak Battalion
772nd LW Light Flak Battalion
773rd LW Light Flak Battalion
147th Mixed Flak Battalion
236th Mixed Flak Battalion
296th Mixed Flak Battalion
303rd Mixed Flak Battalion
352nd Mixed Flak Battalion
385th Mixed Flak Battalion
323rd Heavy Flak Battalion
342nd Heavy Flak Battalion
363rd Heavy Flak Battalion
384th Heavy Flak Battalion
702nd Heavy Flak Battalion
2/47th Motorised Army Light Flak Company
5/52nd SP Army Light Flak Company
2/55th SP Army Light Flak Company
II/22nd LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
I/49th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
127th Mixed Flak Battalion
235th Mixed Flak Battalion
I/18th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
I/43rd LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
612th SP Army Light Flak Battalion
841st LW Motorised Light Flak Battalion
II/25th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
I/33rd LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
I/15th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
II/3rd LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
302nd Mixed Flak Battalion
609th SP Army Light Flak Battalion
73rd LW Motorised Light Flak Battalion
II/Lehr LW Motorised Light Flak Battalion
I/6th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
II/12th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
I/19th LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion
I/23rd LW Motorised Mixed Flak Battalion

Mountain Infantry German [2]
5th Mountain Division
6th Mountain Division

Mountain Infantry Italian [14]
1st Taur. Alpini IT Mountain Division
2nd Tridentina Alpini IT Mountain Division
3rd Julia Alpini IT Mountain Division
4th Cuneense Alpini IT Mountain Division
5th Pusteria Alpini IT Mountain Division
1st Superga Ital. Mountain Division
2nd Sforzesca Ital. Mountain Division
3rd Ravenna Ital. Mountain Division
4th Livorno Ital Mountain Division
26th Assietta Ital. Mountain Division
33rd Acqui Ital. Mountain Division
36th Forli Ital. Mountain Division
37th Modena Ital. Mountain Division
59th Cagliari Ital. Mountain Division

SP Gun [4]
244th Stug Battalion
245th Stug Battalion
227th Stug Battery
605th Panzerjaeger Battalion

Engineer [3]
900th Pioneer Battalion
659th Pioneer Battalion
666th Pioneer Battalion

Construction [23]
314th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
8th Construction Battalion
59th Construction Battalion
211th Construction Battalion
40th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
61st Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
77th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
82nd Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
88th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
89th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
149th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
152nd Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
157th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
220th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
242nd Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
85th Construction Battalion
19th Construction Battalion
60th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
160th Coastal Fortress Construction Battalion
372nd Construction Battalion
K52 R.A.D. Labour Detachment
K376 R.A.D. Labour Detachment
245th Construction Battalion

Security [31]
302nd Static Division
304th Static Division
305th Static Division
306th Static Division
319th Static Division
320th Static Division
321st Static Division
323rd Static Division
327th Static Division
332nd Static Division
333rd Static Division
335th Static Division
336th Static Division
337th Static Division
339th Static Division
340th Static Division
342nd Static Division
702nd Static Division
704th Static Division
708th Static Division
709th Static Division
710th Static Division
711th Static Division
712th Static Division
713th Static Division
714th Static Division
715th Static Division
716th Static Division
717th Static Division
718th Static Division
719th Static Division

Machine Gun [5]
16th Machine Gun Battalion
17th Machine Gun Battalion
4th Motorised Machine Gun Battalion
13th Motorised Machine Gun Battalion
14th Motorised Machine Gun Battalion

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German Divisions in Axis Reserves at start of scenario.

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Italian Divisions in Axis Reserves at start of scenario.

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[kahta]

This is great, thanks for sharing!

[kahta]

A couple of points of feedback:

I think you need to create map units for the Luftflotte Units that are imported. Something is not right with them compared to the units that the game starts with on the map. I remember that I ran into this issue when creating Endseig, but I don't remember how I fixed it.

11 units appear to come into the game depleted

There are a lot of flak units that start the game attached to cities. Under this alternative history scenario, would it be expected the cities would still have their flak units attached?

I think it could be argued that for the purposes of this scenario, the static flak units should be converted to non-static

There is also an interesting question as to whether in this alternative history scenario, how the foreign tank equipment should be modified accordingly.

Similar to the point above, there is also an argument for adding back in the losses that Germany experienced historically in 1940 aginst France, Britain, and the low countries. This would include aircraft, pilots, tanks, fuel, etc.

[IslandInland]

A couple of points of feedback:

I think you need to create map units for the Luftflotte Units that are imported. Something is not right with them compared to the units that the game starts with on the map. I remember that I ran into this issue when creating Endseig, but I don't remember how I fixed it.

11 units appear to come into the game depleted

There are a lot of flak units that start the game attached to cities. Under this alternative history scenario, would it be expected the cities would still have their flak units attached?

I think it could be argued that for the purposes of this scenario, the static flak units should be converted to non-static

There is also an interesting question as to whether in this alternative history scenario, how the foreign tank equipment should be modified accordingly.

Similar to the point above, there is also an argument for adding back in the losses that Germany experienced historically in 1940 aginst France, Britain, and the low countries. This would include aircraft, pilots, tanks, fuel, etc.

Thanks for the feedback.

I know there are some issues to be worked on but my main focus was getting the scenario into a playable state and then getting it out to the WITE 2 community so that they could do most of the testing.

If you could remember how you fixed the issue with Luftflotte units in Endseig that would be a great help.

I have a list of things to address in the scenario and top of that list is flak attached to cities. I might move them to eastern cities in the Reich or add them to the AR or just leave them. I am undecided. I prefer to take a "hands off" approach with decisions of this nature in regard to this scenario which is why I left the German country specific HQs (WMBef.) in the AR and did not disaband them.

The losses incurred in previous camapigns and reorganisations I did consider but erred against doing this as it seemed too retroactive. Also I was wary of going back "too far" in this fictional timeline. If I start second guessing myself then I would never have got even version 1.0 of this scenario out to the public. However I suppose it would be relatively easy just to add the lost men, guns and AFVs to the pools. It is something I will consider doing.

The foreign tanks could be considered a gift from the now fascist French government. To be honest up until now I had not considered the foregn tanks in German service.

[kahta]

If you could remember how you fixed the issue with Luftflotte units in Endseig that would be a great help.

With a little bit of testing, I figured it out. I also confirmed that Automated AI assist also picks these units up and makes choices for them.

1. In the Editor go to the Air Groups tab
1A. Click on "Edit Air Operational Groups" if it defaults to the Edit Air Groups page
2. Scroll down to Row 105-107
3. Copy Loftflotte 1, 2, or 4.
4. Paste it into Row 108 and rename it.
5. In the top left under the unit ID, where it says "Air HQ" click on "- (0)"
6. In the next menu, that comes up, click on the unit you want to link it to. For example, if you are creating an entry for Luftflotte 3, click on the entry for 2568 in the menu.
7. Now, when the unit is transferred from the reserves it behaves as expected.



I would be happy to collaborate or assist as you continue developing this and build it out as a true "alternative history" mod.

[kahta]

I started making some edits to the scenario but decided it might be better to share my sources instead.

Here are armor losses for 1939 and 1940: https://panzerworld.com/german-armor-losses

Overall, it looks like about 1,100 tanks including 1941 losses before June 1941:
321 Pzr I
338 Pzr II
54 Pzr 38 (t)
172 Pzr III
117 Pzr IV
105 Command Tanks (Some quick googling showed these were largely Pz Is and Pz IIs)

One thing that is a little surprising is that total reported losses for Pzr Is totaled 532 through March 1942 yet there are only 239 in units when the scenario starts.



More info on Aircraft losses...

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/AA ... tml#tableX

Table VII gives an idea of the proportions of twin-engine represented by each bomber type in the total losses in table X

Table X gives pretty good numbers of what the losses were

[IslandInland]

If you could remember how you fixed the issue with Luftflotte units in Endseig that would be a great help.

With a little bit of testing, I figured it out. I also confirmed that Automated AI assist also picks these units up and makes choices for them.

1. In the Editor go to the Air Groups tab
1A. Click on "Edit Air Operational Groups" if it defaults to the Edit Air Groups page
2. Scroll down to Row 105-107
3. Copy Loftflotte 1, 2, or 4.
4. Paste it into Row 108 and rename it.
5. In the top left under the unit ID, where it says "Air HQ" click on "- (0)"
6. In the next menu, that comes up, click on the unit you want to link it to. For example, if you are creating an entry for Luftflotte 3, click on the entry for 2568 in the menu.
7. Now, when the unit is transferred from the reserves it behaves as expected.



I would be happy to collaborate or assist as you continue developing this and build it out as a true "alternative history" mod.

Thanks for figuring it out.

As for collaborating I appreciate the offer but I would rather do the work myself and at my own pace.

[IslandInland]

I started making some edits to the scenario but decided it might be better to share my sources instead.

Here are armor losses for 1939 and 1940: https://panzerworld.com/german-armor-losses

Overall, it looks like about 1,100 tanks including 1941 losses before June 1941:
321 Pzr I
338 Pzr II
54 Pzr 38 (t)
172 Pzr III
117 Pzr IV
105 Command Tanks (Some quick googling showed these were largely Pz Is and Pz IIs)

One thing that is a little surprising is that total reported losses for Pzr Is totaled 532 through March 1942 yet there are only 239 in units when the scenario starts.



More info on Aircraft losses...

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/AA ... tml#tableX

Table VII gives an idea of the proportions of twin-engine represented by each bomber type in the total losses in table X

Table X gives pretty good numbers of what the losses were

Are you including losses from the Polish campaign in these figures? The premise for the scenario is the Polish campaign went the same way as it did in our timeline with the same concomitant losses. The Denmark, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway, Battle of Britain, Yugoslavia and Greece campaigns did not occur and so those losses in men, aircraft and AFVs can be looked at with a view to adding them to the starting pools in the scenario.

I don't have the time to do a lot of work on the scenario right now. It took a very long time to get it to a point where it was releasable. As I said in my earlier post I have a list of things I want to look at and address but not at the moment.

As it is the scenario is very playable and I would say is perhaps 90%-95% done barring the discovery of any game-breaking glitches.

[IslandInland]

Now I'm thinking that the German economy somehow has to be reduced as they would not have had the slave labour they historically had from the occupied countries of Europe in June 1941.

This is exactly this sort of thing I actually wanted to avoid as once you start second guessing a fictional scenario it can lose all touch with reality and become something almost farcical.

My scenario was created with the premise of just giving the Axis player access to everything historically the European Axis had in terms of ground and air units as much as the game engine allows. This meant creating a context where the Western Allies do not exist as such and the only country Germany has invaded is Poland. I wanted to keep the Finnish TB as that was a result of a war between them and the USSR. The Soviet Union Garrison would also be required but other than that I just wanted to dump everything else in the AR and create a sort of sandbox for the player where they have complete freedom and can do what they like with all the toys they have to play with.

I wanted the design philosophy of the scenario to stick closely to these principles and not stray too far from this initial inspiration and "mission statement". Most of all I wanted to avoid going down the rabbit hole with this and start making changes predicated on assumptions which are in turn based on another set of assumptions. This can be the bane of ahistorical scenarios and for this and other reasons I wanted to keep the rationale simple.

I will add to the manpower pools and AFV and aircraft pools the stuff the Axis lost in the campaigns which didn't take place in this timeline and there are things I want to look at such as city based flak but that it is further down the line. I really do not want this scenario to become something I have to continously second guess.

For the most part I am very happy with the way it is right now.

[kahta]

Sounds good. Looking forward to it!

[kahta]

Are you including losses from the Polish campaign in these figures?

No.

[IslandInland]

I am in the dev beta group and there is a new editor which at the moment seems to be quantifibly worse than the old one.

This modified scenario is still good to download and play.

[IslandInland]

Are you including losses from the Polish campaign in these figures?

No.

Good.

[Fullervc]

I want to modify the scenario...

How do you unfreeze the HQ units that start frozen? I try to use the unfreeze option, but it doesn't work.

How do you code the Italian air HQ units so that that accept units and stay on the map?