Into the Light HLYA(G) VS Beethoven(S)

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From the dark.....

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To the Light....

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This is an AAR from the German perspective on a two AAR Game between Beethoven and myself. I will update with turn one information later tonight.

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Settings for the game

* AI Air Assist off - Playing with full control of the Air

* Theater boxes unlocked - both Soviets and Germany have full control of TB boxes


House Rules:

1) No temp motorization - This is a game breaker for both sides and not allowed in game
2) No para drops - Side BS stuff that detracts from the flow of the game and house ruled out by me (I will play with it if asked for by the Soviets, but best to take out the extra steps for a faster paced game - Remember the Axis can Para drop too in WITE2
3) No naval invasions - Side BS stuff that detracts from the flow of the game and house ruled out by me (I will play with it if asked for by Soviets, but best to take out the extra steps for a faster paced game)

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Beethoven is doing the Soviet AAR here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=385955

Beethoven and I are playing "No Early End" 41 scenario. The 41 Sudden Death scenario is a Pipe Dream against a competent Soviet player for the Axis to win early. Thus I chose, and we both agreed, that the "No Early End" would give a better game for full duration to look at the play balance between two equal skilled opponents from beginning to end. Although I feel Beethoven is more skilled than I and gives me way too much credit on my skill. I have no skill, Jubjub & K62 are the true Axis masters.

Having said that I don't believe I will make most of the historical advances the Axis did in real life getting thwarted before getting to those positions. Leningrad and Moscow, and Stalingrad are pipe dreams in my head and will more than likely be the only place that I actually take them. The game will be a phrricc victory just to survive before Beethoven strolls into Berlin in 44.

Don't get me wrong, the Germans are strong but not strong enough long game. To win you have to win by 41 which just isn't going to happen against equal skilled opponents and this game will go the distance(even if I get thrown off this forum the game will go on this time since I have two AAR's going with more stuff on the discord channel not shown here) I will have my few turns of fun before I start getting hammered. Make no mistake I play to win, even though some suggest to play for fun! Ha, play to win and have fun doing it! Because if you make a mistake against me, you are going to pay!

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Turn 1

Ground Losses

I will be posting T1 deposition of troops once I get turn 2 from Beethoven. Until then here are the ground losses from Turn 1. I have talked about the gun losses on the discord channel & will briefly expand on it here once I get turn 2 back. I have also brought up the gun losses on the BETA Dev Board

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Air Losses

here are the Air losses for Turn 1

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Beethoven is doing the Soviet AAR here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=385955

Beethoven and I are playing "No Early End" 41 scenario. The 41 Sudden Death scenario is a Pipe Dream against a competent Soviet player for the Axis to win early. Thus I chose, and we both agreed, that the "No Early End" would give a better game for full duration to look at the play balance between two equal skilled opponents from beginning to end. Although I feel Beethoven is more skilled than I and gives me way too much credit on my skill. I have no skill, Jubjub & K62 are the true Axis masters.

Having said that I don't believe I will make most of the historical advances the Axis did in real life getting thwarted before getting to those positions. Leningrad and Moscow, and Stalingrad are pipe dreams in my head and will more than likely be the only place that I actually take them. The game will be a phrricc victory just to survive before Beethoven strolls into Berlin in 44.

Don't get me wrong, the Germans are strong but not strong enough long game. To win you have to win by 41 which just isn't going to happen against equal skilled opponents and this game will go the distance(even if I get thrown off this forum the game will go on this time since I have two AAR's going with more stuff on the discord channel not shown here) I will have my few turns of fun before I start getting hammered. Make no mistake I play to win, even though some suggest to play for fun! Ha, play to win and have fun doing it! Because if you make a mistake against me, you are going to pay!

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HLYA's 10th Pz Div ready to conquer Russia.

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Ok somethings not right here, Oh that's The 10 Panzer division of the Bundeswehr, well maybe they can help capture Moscow with there 1941 counterparts

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This unit looks like the right one

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Thank you for the post TM1, nice seeing you again! I do have to say something about a woman in uniform that is just so nice. Hopefully 10th PZ can do something this game besides lose tanks

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Just a quick update. I have received turn 2 back from Beethoven yesterday afternoon. I should be updating towards the end of the week. I am also thinking of throwing in a surprise to this AAR for those that read it. Until then stay tuned.

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Just a quick update. I have received turn 2 back from Beethoven yesterday afternoon. I should be updating towards the end of the week. I am also thinking of throwing in a surprise to this AAR for those that read it. Until then stay tuned.

Japan declares war on Russia instead of the Allies and the Soviets have to fight a TWO FRONT WAR.

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Just a quick update. I have received turn 2 back from Beethoven yesterday afternoon. I should be updating towards the end of the week. I am also thinking of throwing in a surprise to this AAR for those that read it. Until then stay tuned.

Japan declares war on Russia instead of the Allies and the Soviets have to fight a TWO FRONT WAR.

No, not a two front war. Sorry to disappoint. I was going to do a surprise walk through of both the Rovno pocket & Rumanian border opener for German players T1. I really feel that the Germans needs to start using a good opener in the South with current patch up to .32. This would be a doorway for others to copy and expound on The opening would be like what I did for the Stalingrad to Berlin game here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=368011 (I could do other links to WITE1 walk throughs but I don't want to confuse WITE2 players that did not play WITE1) But I really don't have the time to do so at the moment, therefore this is postponed until I actually have time to give my take on the T1 German opening in the South, maybe in my next opening game.

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Turn 2 was sent to Beethoven yesterday afternoon. It wasn't one of my best turn 2's but if you like to check out Beethovens write-up of that turn on the Soviets perspective you can find it here https://discord.gg/FDeFYnNZDG (I believe this is the correct link, correct me if I am wrong please) I can't see anything in that link but does have the current' perspective of the game up to the minute until it is posted here on the Matrix Forums after so many turns. That way you have "HOT OFF THE PRESS MOVES! without the wait for posting to the Matrix forums. Beethovens Matrix AAR is here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=385955 As you can tell I write with crayons and charcoal compared to Beethoven who is a master of composition. Give him a read and enjoy the show.

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Turn 1

A blast from the Past

This is a real old post but still holds true today.

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 9#p3929339

It lead to me being chastised by two of the top players at the time but I was able to prove my saying correct back then. Now the problem is it is now 2022 and this is a bit different than WITE1 with unit density. BUT I think "The Great Wall of Smolensk"(see Crackaces I remembered this time the "THE" Thank you Sir!) and "The Great Wall of Luga" can be breached if the Germans so desires. I semi proved this theory of old in my Jubjub game here https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 2&t=371605 but did not go to fruition which I will not go into but you can read the last post on that last link. (not the same kind of defense but sorta of the same for argument sake for WITE2).

Anyway, that is what I am going to face, THE Great Walls, I am almost "sure" of it. How I go through that wall, around that wall, or just plainly go somewhere else will dictate this game. I am NOT playing for VP's at the beginning of this game. I am 100% going for the VVS first, Soviet units 2nd, and VP's third. VP counting will get you into trouble if you aren't taking care of the ultimate problem. We all by now should know what that is. Don't be surprised if after the first two turns I don't take another VP location until turn 9ish. Don't tell me I didn't warn you.

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Im off to bed but "should" be posting some pics of turn 1 tomorrow, I hope.

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Turn 1

Weather!!!!

Sticking with "tradition" (Roman Catholic Church will love me for sticking with tradition) I am posting the Weather report for the 1st turn. YES! the weather report. You realize that the weather is random after the first turn and is only "historical" for the 1st turn I really am curious why I don't hear the Historical argument of not giving the Germans "historical" weather I hear the historical argument everywhere else. Anyway, does not matter to me either way. I will be marching forward no matter the weather.

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Turn 1

Event!!!!

Sticking with "tradition" here is "THE Event" for the first turn. We all know it and have come to love the event. This event kicks off the game! So you gotta love it.

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Turn 1

Air Phase

This game I will do my tried and true bomb the Soviet Fighters on the airfields(you can see that in other AAR's I did if you are interested) Then during the ground phase I would shoot down the Soviet bombers using the fighters on intercept as they came in for Ground Support. Now I already know how this turns out in this game since we are a turn ahead. But to be fair I was being warned before I did my Air Phase that I needed to bomb more Soviet bomber bases. But of course in my arrogance & stupidity (how efficient of me to have both in the same package) I went full steam ahead without listening to their voices. I was hell bent on Soviet fighters and Soviet Fighters alone. I saw nothing but RED.

Well, the bombing went well, in my opinion, at this moment in time. Little did I realize that "MASSIVE" amounts of bombers would be coming in for Ground Support and Interception just did not want to fly My pilots were still back in Paris enjoying the women I do believe. Here are the results from the bombing. Please note I lost 7 Stukas and will go into detail shortly since I did not fly escort this time. Here are "just" the Airphase bombing results.

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Turn 1

Air Phase

In the past I would run escort for Stukas always, but chanced it this time because I was feeling ballsy. I do have to say that l was "pleasantly" surprised that only "7" Stukas got shot down. So there had to have been an air update or something since I had left. Because before the Stukas would have been massacred by the Soviet "i" frame fighters not being escorted. I thought this might have been a one off but has not been so far in 2 turns.

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Turn 1

Air Phase

Well, I messed up. In my stupor I bombed a bomber base by accident and missed the fighter base to the North. Oh well, another mistake on my part.

Again, Soviet Fighters are my #1 objective in the game with Beethoven. #2 is Soviet manpower either in Cities or in units.

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Turn 1

Airphase

Every single German Fighter squadron that starts on the East Front is now permanently assigned to the War in Russia. All withdraws have been canx. Will see where this takes us.

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