How to retake Narvik?

[ncc1701e]

Once you have an UK corps in garrison mode 10-2, how do you retake Narvik?

In WPP, there is port blockade to help you.
In WPE, any tips to share? Shore bombardment plus planes?

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[MagicMissile]

That looks nasty .

I guess a HQ 2 arm/mech corps some airplane and if the UK navy allows it some shore support might do it but wont be easy good luck .

/MM

[ncc1701e]

Well, I did not get it yet but the Royal Navy is paying a little price.

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[PanzerMike]

A little price...

[MagicMissile]

A little price...

Classic British understatement .

[ncc1701e]

Good morning, Mr. Phelps. Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to retake Narvik. As always, should you or any member of your IM Force be caught or killed, the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions.

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[AlvaroSousa]

it's tough to adjust there because there is only 10m of land between the sea and Sweden.

1 division can protect that.

[ncc1701e]

No worry, it was my fault not protecting it. And now, there is:

FIXED Came up with better solution for intercepting fleets going to port

[generalfdog]

there is no solution except to go back to Germany!

[battlevonwar]

That would probably say cost more money to take than it's worth. Anything that Large/Entrenched would take 'forever resources' the terrain and hexes are just awful. It's a Fools Errand but it may be impossible to see at first glance.

[CHINCHIN]

To recover Narvik you have to build several airports on the hill-road, to bomb the British fleet, then send submarines, and a good armored corps.

It is necessary to assess whether the British player is compensated for the naval losses and the corps that he will probably lose, and the German player should assess the effort that sending all those forces entails.

[ncc1701e]

To recover Narvik you have to build several airports on the hill-road, to bomb the British fleet, then send submarines, and a good armored corps.

It is necessary to assess whether the British player is compensated for the naval losses and the corps that he will probably lose, and the German player should assess the effort that sending all those forces entails.

It cost on both sides. The UK lost an aircraft carrier, one battleship and several naval steps against the Luftwaffe. UK lost several air steps too. But the Luftwaffe also suffered. And, it took me several land steps.

The secret, deny the Royal Navy the desire to be near Narvik. Then, perform several ground strikes to lower the effectiveness of the UK corps there, this during few turns. At last, the final ground assault with the help of the Kriegsmarine...

The Luftwaffe will now rush to the eastern front. It will be much needed there.

Qapla' (“success”) as we say in Klingon.

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[canuckgamer]

I am wondering how the UK managed to get a corps in Narvik? In our last PBEM and our current one, the Germans conquered Norway on turn 3 September 29. In this game he conducted 7 ground strikes against the Norwegian unit in Oslo, invaded with bombardment support from surface ships. Odds of 3-1 and the Norwegian unit retreated. Next turn the Germans transport units in to each port. I suppose the UK could station naval units outside of Narvik to attempt interceptions but is it worth the oil? What exactly does holding Narvik do for the Allies or the Axis?
All hexes in Norway immediately convert to German so the only way the UK can get a unit in to Narvik is by invasion except they don't start the game with any landing ships. Even if they built a couple the first turn they would not be available until November and by then the weather in Narvik would be snow.

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[ncc1701e]

I am wondering how the UK managed to get a corps in Narvik? In our last PBEM and our current one, the Germans conquered Norway on turn 3 September 29. In this game he conducted 7 ground strikes against the Norwegian unit in Oslo, invaded with bombardment support from surface ships. Odds of 3-1 and the Norwegian unit retreated. Next turn the Germans transport units in to each port. I suppose the UK could station naval units outside of Narvik to attempt interceptions but is it worth the oil? What exactly does holding Narvik do for the Allies or the Axis?
All hexes in Norway immediately convert to German so the only way the UK can get a unit in to Narvik is by invasion except they don't start the game with any landing ships. Even if they built a couple the first turn they would not be available until November and by then the weather in Narvik would be snow.

It costs nothing, no landing ships. Norway turns Allies when it is invaded. As such, Allies unit can disembark in any port not protected during the turn of the invasion. Protect your ports as Axis something I did not do. And anyway in this patch, there was a bug now fixed.

FIXED Came up with better solution for intercepting fleets going to port

[sveint]

You don't retake Narvik. Whomever gets there first will hold it for the duration of the war.

[canuckgamer]

Germany invaded Norway on September 29 and conquered it the same turn as per my description in my post. When it became the September 29 turn for the Allies all the Norwegian ports were German controlled so the only way the UK could take Narvik would be to invade it but no landing ships. I can understand if the Germans don't conquer Norway the turn they invade but that is not the case. I have attached two screenshots. What am I misunderstanding?

[sveint]

Need 10 landing ships.

[canuckgamer]

The UK starts with zero landing ships. Even if they build them on turn 1 it would not be available until November 30 1939. By then it would be snow, cold or both in Norway so they could not invade until the spring of 40. I'm thinking that the UK would have to invade with a corps to have a chance of taking Narvik, so 30 landing ships. That's assuming the German only have a division in Narvik. In addition I would think that division would have been converted to garrison mode to increase it's defense capabilities.
As I asked in my initial post, is it worth the oil since you would have to send 3 surface ships for shore bombardment as well. If the UK does not take the port on the invasion turn, the Germans would transfer air to Norway and the ships would have to leave. Then it would become a long drawn out affair of the UK supplying the corps using a sub and I still don't know what impact holding Narvik has on the Germans.

[sveint]

If there is already a division there, you can forget it until at the very earliest 1943.

Usually it goes like this.

A) UK parks a fleet with a division off Norway in early 1940
a) Germany takes Oslo
b) UK takes empty Narvik IF the weather allows it (smart Germany takes Oslo when the weather is bad in the north)
c) Germany escorts a land unit to Narvik (naval battle)
d) UK gives up taking Narvik

[stjeand]

The UK starts with zero landing ships. Even if they build them on turn 1 it would not be available until November 30 1939. By then it would be snow, cold or both in Norway so they could not invade until the spring of 40. I'm thinking that the UK would have to invade with a corps to have a chance of taking Narvik, so 30 landing ships. That's assuming the German only have a division in Narvik. In addition I would think that division would have been converted to garrison mode to increase it's defense capabilities.
As I asked in my initial post, is it worth the oil since you would have to send 3 surface ships for shore bombardment as well. If the UK does not take the port on the invasion turn, the Germans would transfer air to Norway and the ships would have to leave. Then it would become a long drawn out affair of the UK supplying the corps using a sub and I still don't know what impact holding Narvik has on the Germans.

The impact is the Germans lose the Swedish ore through the winter months.

Germany has to RUSH invade Norway...it is to easy for the UK to send 1 div there and once that is there...follow up with a corps and then...it is UK forever.
The Germans would need to send an armor and multiple air to have a shot...and the cost is extremely high to attempt to take it back. Usually if I take it, then It is lost.

I don't worry about German air normally...bring up a bunch of BB and sometimes I even bring in a fighter. The Germans would have to build airbases to take it. Now the price is getting higher and higher.

Sadly I rarely take Norway because of this.

I am hoping in WP2 that there is more of a reason for the Germans to take Norway and Greece...than there is here.

For example.

Sub Pens...Repair locations that can't be bombed by UK air...that would make Norway MORE valuable.