July 6th 1941 Invasion of East Prussia by Soviet 13th Rifle Division

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July 6th 1941 Invasion of East Prussia by Soviet 13th Rifle Division

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Should I try for OKH near Koenigsberg or see if it can make it to Berlin?
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Lucky 13th. Try for Rastenburg. Get the Wolf in his Liar. :mrgreen:
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How the hell did that division manage to survive that long behind enemy lines? :D
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Teo41_ITA wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:03 pm How the hell did that division manage to survive that long behind enemy lines? :D
I'd be curious as to how many rifle squads are still on their feet.
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Teo41_ITA wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:03 pm How the hell did that division manage to survive that long behind enemy lines? :D
It got surrounded at the start of the game and I went west to move next to a German Corps HQ (fortuitous as it ended up killing Gotthard Heinrici) and it just got passed by.
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Platoonist wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:29 pm
Teo41_ITA wrote: Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:03 pm How the hell did that division manage to survive that long behind enemy lines? :D
I'd be curious as to how many rifle squads are still on their feet.
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Ooo. Supply on hand 18/Needed 121. Better ransack a depot first before storming Berlin. :shock:
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with that limited supply it should never have gotten so many movement points
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The minimum amount of MPs for non-motorised units is always 8.
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if that's independent of supply status its just plain wrong.
If you don't have fodder for your horses you can't move. The limited amount of vehicles can't move the whole unit regardless of how much fuel is present
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It's independent, yes. Only when a unit is essentially "fully isolated" (it can't even defend itself anymore) you can't do anything with it. That's several turns of isolation.

Non-motorized units will always receive at least eight MP, even when out of supplies unless the unit was air dropped in the current turn (23.9). The exception is static units that will receive two MP.
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I'd be curious to know how far west the unit gets before a hunting party tracks it down or it evaporates.
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It should go for the ports in east Prussia to remove its isolated status. Then it can probably wreak havoc along the coastline to Berlin.
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funny, nothing to eat or drink but still able to move with all equipment
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Denniss wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:42 pm funny, nothing to eat or drink but still able to move with all equipment
Soviet supermen subsisting on sawdust sandwiches.
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It's only 20 miles inside East Prussia and has only been able to move 2 hexes a turn since it was passed by.

I wish I could track to see how far west it could get but I'm stopping this game to downgrade to a previous version.
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