Major damage repair in forward base
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bradfordkay
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Major damage repair in forward base
I have a Heyward class APA in Tulagi with both major flotation and engine damage. I have both an APSD class ARD and a Vulcan class AR disbanded in that port. Looking at the repair screen for the APA it shows that the flotation damage is being repaired but not the engine damage (there is an X on the line next to the engine damage). Is this because the ship is in the floating drydock and cannot be attended to by the AR until it is no longer in the drydock?
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
I presume that would be the case. Consider what each one can repair.bradfordkay wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:27 pm I have a Heyward class APA in Tulagi with both major flotation and engine damage. I have both an APSD class ARD and a Vulcan class AR disbanded in that port. Looking at the repair screen for the APA it shows that the flotation damage is being repaired but not the engine damage (there is an X on the line next to the engine damage). Is this because the ship is in the floating drydock and cannot be attended to by the AR until it is no longer in the drydock?
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
If the engine damage is greater then 5 you'll need a shipyard for it to be fixed....GP
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
First, there is a priority for repair, and floatation damage comes before engineering damage within the same relative damage band. Search for Alfred's Ship Repair 101 for the details.
Second, if the ship is in the ARD, I don't think the AR can do any repairs. The crew can pump out the minor Flood and repair minor Engineering and System damage. Once the APA is out of the ARD and unassigned, the AR contributes its repair points to the port's points to help with repairs. If there are other damaged ships in port, assign the ship to the AR if you want all the repair attention to go there.
Whatever you do, don't rush to get the ship out of repair at Tulagi unless it is in great peril there. I usually try to get all the minor damage and all the System damage fixed before moving a valuable ship.
Second, if the ship is in the ARD, I don't think the AR can do any repairs. The crew can pump out the minor Flood and repair minor Engineering and System damage. Once the APA is out of the ARD and unassigned, the AR contributes its repair points to the port's points to help with repairs. If there are other damaged ships in port, assign the ship to the AR if you want all the repair attention to go there.
Whatever you do, don't rush to get the ship out of repair at Tulagi unless it is in great peril there. I usually try to get all the minor damage and all the System damage fixed before moving a valuable ship.
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
If the ship is assigned to a repair ship, whether an ARD or an AR, only that repair ship will repair any damage. If the ship is assigned to pierside repairs, the repair ships if not otherwise assigned will help any ship that needs its help. I have seen in the operations report, ships on pierside repairs go into and out of an ARD. Of course, that may have been to find delicious barnacles to eat . . .
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
I am in no rush to get the APA out of Tulagi. I will happily wait until all of the flotation damage is repaired but it appears that I will then have to send her to Brisbane, Sydney or Auckland - depending upon which shipyard is available at that time.
However, this encourages me in that the Lexington which recently disbanded in Tabiteuea with 70+ sys, 17 flot (17maj) and 21 eng (1maj) - the fires have been put out since then so I forget what her fire level had been - will be able to be repaired on site as soon as I can get the ships there. ABSD-3 is already halfway between Palmyra and Baker islands (she had just arrived at Hilo when a major carrier battle occurred NE of Tabiteuea). I'll need to send an AR to the location as well. I've one at Funafuti that has been taking care of my sub base there which will do the trick.
However, this encourages me in that the Lexington which recently disbanded in Tabiteuea with 70+ sys, 17 flot (17maj) and 21 eng (1maj) - the fires have been put out since then so I forget what her fire level had been - will be able to be repaired on site as soon as I can get the ships there. ABSD-3 is already halfway between Palmyra and Baker islands (she had just arrived at Hilo when a major carrier battle occurred NE of Tabiteuea). I'll need to send an AR to the location as well. I've one at Funafuti that has been taking care of my sub base there which will do the trick.
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
Bring in some Naval support, they will help to repair the minor damage as well. Engineers can expand the port if it is possible to do so and that will also help to repair the minor damage as well. If you need to, just put it in an escort convoy and you can slowly move it a few hexes at a time, disbanding in a port each turn or so. But her float damage should be no problem if you move her at cruise speed when the system damage is repaired.bradfordkay wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 2:41 am I am in no rush to get the APA out of Tulagi. I will happily wait until all of the flotation damage is repaired but it appears that I will then have to send her to Brisbane, Sydney or Auckland - depending upon which shipyard is available at that time.
However, this encourages me in that the Lexington which recently disbanded in Tabiteuea with 70+ sys, 17 flot (17maj) and 21 eng (1maj) - the fires have been put out since then so I forget what her fire level had been - will be able to be repaired on site as soon as I can get the ships there. ABSD-3 is already halfway between Palmyra and Baker islands (she had just arrived at Hilo when a major carrier battle occurred NE of Tabiteuea). I'll need to send an AR to the location as well. I've one at Funafuti that has been taking care of my sub base there which will do the trick.
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
Tulagi is maxed on on build and I have had the 9th Port Advanced Base Force there for some time (as well as the 7th Fleet HQ which unfortunately has no naval support squads). South Pacific HQ is in Noumea and needs to stay there as that is also a major forward repair base (along with Luganville).
When the flotation damage is repaired on the Neville, I'll just have to have her escorted to an actual shipyard for the engine work. Not a serious issue. The thread was started because I had forgotten that major engine damage over 5 cannot be repaired by the tenders.
Oh... you may be talking about the Lexington. I'll get all the flotation damage taken care of and a good chunk of the system damage before I consider moving her. Tabiteuea is also maxed on build and I have the 2nd Port Advanced Base Force there, so we have plenty of naval support at that location.
When the flotation damage is repaired on the Neville, I'll just have to have her escorted to an actual shipyard for the engine work. Not a serious issue. The thread was started because I had forgotten that major engine damage over 5 cannot be repaired by the tenders.
Oh... you may be talking about the Lexington. I'll get all the flotation damage taken care of and a good chunk of the system damage before I consider moving her. Tabiteuea is also maxed on build and I have the 2nd Port Advanced Base Force there, so we have plenty of naval support at that location.
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
I do have another question: I already have a small ARD (ARD-6) at Tabiteuea repairing flotation damage on an APD which took a fish from a Betty during the invasion of Abemama. Will this confuse the system when ABSD-3 is disbanded in the same port?
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
Normal repair rules apply. Only one type of damage is worked on at a time in this order; floatation, engine, system and within that there are bands based on level of damage.bradfordkay wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:27 pm I have a Heyward class APA in Tulagi with both major flotation and engine damage. I have both an APSD class ARD and a Vulcan class AR disbanded in that port. Looking at the repair screen for the APA it shows that the flotation damage is being repaired but not the engine damage (there is an X on the line next to the engine damage). Is this because the ship is in the floating drydock and cannot be attended to by the AR until it is no longer in the drydock?
Docks only repair floatation so until it is reduced to a certain level the AR will not repair engine etc. The AR should work on other stuff depending on repair priority setting. Once float damage gets to 5 you can remove it from the dock and let the AR take ove completely.
Re: Major damage repair in forward base
Yes, I was referring to the Lexington but it also applies to any ship in that condition that may be subject to a port strike.bradfordkay wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 3:28 am Tulagi is maxed on on build and I have had the 9th Port Advanced Base Force there for some time (as well as the 7th Fleet HQ which unfortunately has no naval support squads). South Pacific HQ is in Noumea and needs to stay there as that is also a major forward repair base (along with Luganville).
When the flotation damage is repaired on the Neville, I'll just have to have her escorted to an actual shipyard for the engine work. Not a serious issue. The thread was started because I had forgotten that major engine damage over 5 cannot be repaired by the tenders.
Oh... you may be talking about the Lexington. I'll get all the flotation damage taken care of and a good chunk of the system damage before I consider moving her. Tabiteuea is also maxed on build and I have the 2nd Port Advanced Base Force there, so we have plenty of naval support at that location.
Another suggestion is to remove her air units if you have not done so unless they are carrier capable but not yet carrier qualified since they will still do their carrier training while the carrier is undergoing repairs.
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
Short answer is no....GPbradfordkay wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:20 am I do have another question: I already have a small ARD (ARD-6) at Tabiteuea repairing flotation damage on an APD which took a fish from a Betty during the invasion of Abemama. Will this confuse the system when ABSD-3 is disbanded in the same port?
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Re: Major damage repair in forward base
Slightly longer answer is you can assign the ship to the ARD you choose. It will not receive other assistance while so assigned, AFAIK.btd64 wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:04 pmShort answer is no....GPbradfordkay wrote: Thu Nov 02, 2023 4:20 am I do have another question: I already have a small ARD (ARD-6) at Tabiteuea repairing flotation damage on an APD which took a fish from a Betty during the invasion of Abemama. Will this confuse the system when ABSD-3 is disbanded in the same port?
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