8.1 should follow H2H's steps :-)

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PzV im Einsatz!
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8.1 should follow H2H's steps :-)

Post by PzV im Einsatz! »

I've just downloaded SP:WaW 7.1 + H2H mod and wow... merry christmas to me!

Many thanks to Panzer Leo and his team!

I'll have to custom design my coffin so it can contain a PC along with SP:WaW and H2H. :D
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Re: 8.1 should follow H2H's steps :-)

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Originally posted by PzV im Einsatz!
I've just downloaded SP:WaW 7.1 + H2H mod and wow... merry christmas to me!

Many thanks to Panzer Leo and his team!

I'll have to custom design my coffin so it can contain a PC along with SP:WaW and H2H. :D


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Post by PzV im Einsatz! »

ok... so the Wurfrahmen 40 has an incorrect distribution of ammo... go to this site http://www.theblitz.org/member_sites/pa ... rework.php , and if you tell me that all the features written there don't compensate for the latter error, I will give you 1 million dollars :D

PS Panzer Leo and his team have taken user input much more seriously than the SP:WaW staff. The minor countries from H2H are portrayed quite more realistically than in 7.1
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Post by o4r »

Originally posted by PzV im Einsatz!
ok... so the Wurfrahmen 40 has an incorrect distribution of ammo... go to this site http://www.theblitz.org/member_sites/pa ... rework.php , and if you tell me that all the features written there don't compensate for the latter error, I will give you 1 million dollars :D

PS Panzer Leo and his team have taken user input much more seriously than the SP:WaW staff. The minor countries from H2H are portrayed quite more realistically than in 7.1


There are good and bad in both game. There are also error in both games too. Panzer Leo really concentrate alot on the German unit, but somehow some other country unit may not be so. If we have ppl as commited as him in reflecting and study on other country maybe this would be better. However at this time to make such a statement maybe blunt I think.
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Post by Panzer Leo »

Originally posted by o4r
There are good and bad in both game. There are also error in both games too. Panzer Leo really concentrate alot on the German unit, but somehow some other country unit may not be so. If we have ppl as commited as him in reflecting and study on other country maybe this would be better. However at this time to make such a statement maybe blunt I think.


You would be surprised how many helped me to work on better OOBs and I only deserve a part of the credits on that.

It's a lot of dedicated people who gave much input and if you hit my banner, you will find a few of the ones who helped a lot, but there were much, much more...



...so nothing blunt about that comment at all ;)
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Post by o4r »

Panzer Leo wrote:You would be surprised how many helped me to work on better OOBs and I only deserve a part of the credits on that.

It's a lot of dedicated people who gave much input and if you hit my banner, you will find a few of the ones who helped a lot, but there were much, much more...



...so nothing blunt about that comment at all ;)
Well then you are blunt too. In your mind is only H2H, I appreciate your effort in it but you seen to forget about the campagin built in for OOB 7.1. Your OOB is totally not compatible with the current version of SPWAW by Matrix. Try to think in the bigger picture rather in a small little OOB which is corrected. Maybe the comment should be H2H newer version should consider that it is compatible to SPWAW and mega campagin is fitted in properly.

You have went into detail for the German unit but some units in other country are not that accurate.

Example

It does not mean that gun are not able to raise to high angle is not capable of using as an artillery. All guns are usable as an artillery. But the problem a raise when one call for artillery cause every tank can be firing like an artillery. In real situation they did not do it cause they preserve their round rather for direct support.

If you see correctly, Hummel gun is only able to raise to an max elevation of 42 deg, the max range of the gun is normally around 40 deg and most of the tank gun raise to approx 20 deg, they too can be able to use as an artillery but certainly the range of the gun is much reduce. High angle are for close range and good for dropping into trench like a mortar.

Russian like to use their IS 152 for bombard and this is a fact which you cant change. Though their gun are only raise about 20 deg, this only reduce their min range for bombardment which they do not require since they can direct fire on it. The max range is reduced too but even at half range of a 152, it is good enough.

In Okinawa, when the American are in shore and too far for the Battleship to support, they used their sherman 105 for artillery support too.

Also

Rocket impact are dispersed and scattered over a large area that why Hilter did not consider the ideal to use 280mm HE for really close support and develop that sturmtiger cause 280 carry fuel which when hit even by small arms round may explode. So Sturmtiger are actually not an artillery at all.

What SPWAW lack now is the only classification of some vehicle to mobile artillery and some data they had are actually more accurate in other country. Some data they used are also more accurate in German tanks like their optical equipment, Pz IV in H2H when using their 75mm gun from model C to D is too accurate, which may not be true.

In short Matrix need to improve their OOB by making it compatible to not only PBMM but also their mega campagin like wise H2H though still can be played solo failed to take into consideration of the mega campagin.
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