Closed TBs and VP rewards

[Stamb]

I decided to play 1941 GC with closed TBs for the first time. As Soviet side, by turn 25 i got 1 VP/AP point and lost few. Meanwhile Axis got around +8.
Is it WAD that Axis gets free VPs that are equal to an on map objective (without bonus) just like that?
Soviet air values stay under 100% for an enormous amount of time due to squadron size reduction and lack of enough scheduled transfers.


In my opinion TBs should not give any VP at all. Only penalties when under 100%.

[Wiedrock]

The best thing would be to have all the TB Events (advance/delay/VP/AP) deactivated when TB control is off.
Otherwise one needs to change the TB needs to current state of closed TB vanilla games.

[HardLuckYetAgain]

Can the game be won if the Western Allies take parts of Germany? ;-P

[Joel Billings]

It's normal for some points to be scored, even in a locked game. Players can always transfer additional units to the TBs if they begin to get worried about a particular TB causing you negative points, or want to try to gain some points, though it's harder to gain than to lose points. I just looked at a couple of recent test games and saw Germans with 8 and 9 points on turn 25, so that fits with what you're seeing. There is some variability in the VP scoring, just like with weather. You can't assume that there will be no VP scoring for TBs in a locked game.

If the Western Allies take Berlin, the game will end. So usually not a good thing for the Germans, but the exact Soviet victory level (or draw) is based on when it falls as per the campaign victory rules.

The fall of Berlin gives the following outcomes:
§ If the Soviets take Berlin then this is a Decisive victory if
on or before 31 December 1944, a Major Soviet Victory
(if after 31 December 1944 but on or before 1 April
1945), a Marginal Soviet Victory (if after 1 April 1945 and
on or before 31 May 1945) or a Draw (if it falls after 31
May 1945 but before the scenario end date).
§ If the Western Allies take Berlin then this is a Decisive
victory if on or before 31 December 1944, a Major Soviet
Victory (if after 31 December 1944 but on or before 28
February 1945), a Marginal Soviet Victory (if after 28
February 1945 and on or before 31 May 1945) or a Draw
(if it falls after 31 May 1945 but before the scenario end
date).

[Stamb]

I am more worried about 2nd VP check condition which happens on turn 29. By that time Axis get ~10 VP advantage just for free, is there any reason for that?