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Soviet Rifle Division TOEs

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***************************WIP***************************

Slowly advancing, finishing off one after the other.
If you have further infos/suggestings, find errors, let me know!


Sources:
Zaloga & Ness, 2009, Companion to the Red Army
http://www.rkka.ru/org/str/sd-change.htm
http://niehorster.org/012_ussr/__stavka.htm
BArch, many different Intel folders directly or indirectly used: (RH 2/____) 1330, 1925, 2515-2530, 2689, 2695-2696, 2713 - used/shown documents have the folder in their name.
ruWiki Regiments
https://docs.historyrussia.org/ru/nodes ... nnoy-voyny
+ see links inside Posts



Content:
04/1941 - finished 09.07.2025
08/1941 - WIP (target finalizing) - it's a bit messy, may come last. :D
12/1941 - finished 14.07.2025
03/1942 - finished 14.07.2025
07/1942 - not availabe in game, not necessarily needed unless one wants to go "all in". So - finished
08/1942 - finished 14.07.2025
12/1942 - finished 15.07.2025
06/1943 - finished 16.07.2025
08/1943 - REDUCED STRENGTH + 12/1943 - not available in game, good for context, possible vanilla version when sticking to 11Men Squads - finished 18.07.2025
06/1944 - finished 18.07.2025
12/1944 + 1945
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02/157
02/158 Army Staff more Army?
02/158 Field Directorate of the Army
02/145 Front Staff
02/145
015/145 Air Division?
11th October 1941 Barrier Detachment?

04/1941 - finished 09.07.2025


04/16 State Bank
014/96 Post Office more
04/401 Beutegruppe
04/409 Chemical
04/413 HQ Staff
  • Regular Shtat No. 04/400-417 of 05.04.1941 NH or nwtele or rkka
    • Manpower (14827→14447)
      Using the CttRA and rkku figures of 14483 as a base over the German Intel report of 14454, which seems to be missing at least the Veterinary Hospital.
      From that then removing 36Men which would be part of the Armored (tanks) part of the Recon Battalion.
    • AAMGs (15xQuad+18xDShK→24xQuad+9xDShK)
      As again mentioned further down in the 08/1941 TOE, here already 6 Quad AAMG were present in the Regimental TOEs. Giving 3x6=18 in the three Regiments. Overall in this TOE even seems to have had 24 Quad AAMGs, but for some reason some sources give only 15 Quad AAMG. The totals remain the same tho, always giving a total of 33 AAMGs (Quad+DShK).
      The math exactly works out when simply mixing up the AAMGs with one another (e.g. 3x6=18 with 3x3+2+3+1=15 versus 3x6+2+3+1=24 with 3x3=9 ...and so), so I assume it's an translation related error. Russian sites and the German intel give the 24Quad+9DShK while english sources like the CttRA give the 15Quad+18DShK.
      It's also possible it's related to some amendment in June 41 or so...but the more likely situation is a confusion of the AAMG types I'd say.
      This is a good example with listing all the authorized numbers for the 400series TOE, clearly showing a 24+9 setup.
    • Flamethrowers (4x→3x)
      Numbers should be reduced from 4 Squads to 3 Squads, no compromises or so need to be made here. The Platoon had 30 Flamethrowers and a total of 38Men (33 in Squads).
      further main source example
    • Sappers (32→52)
      see the pic for calculations
      The Division's Sapper Battalion contains some "Blocking" Platoon, the role is not 100% clear. In this post someone tried to figure it out and found it being related to radio mines and other electricity used for creating types of barriers (smth. like that, autotranslation is bad).
    • Recons
      Take the 12xRifle Squad (-) [make it available 06/1941 already] for Regimental Foot/Mot. Recons.
      Divisional Foot Recons had LMGs and SMGs, so regular 9xRifle Squad 41 can be used.
      Cavalry seems fine with 9x, could also instantly use the following Squad type from 07/1941 but also fine as is.
  • Guards
    No Guards TOE available.
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08/1941
Currently WIP, things may not make 100% sense due to new findings which have to be worked through.


Timeline

Initial order to form 56 new Divisions.
Alternative Source
06.07.1941

To oblige the NPOs to mobilize in front-line regions (Kamenetz-Podolskaya, Zhytomyr, Odessa, Vinnitsa, Kiev, Chernihiv, Gomel, Mogilev, Vitebsk, Smolenskaya, Kalinin, Leningrad regions) The entire calling contingent is up to the age of 50, as well as mobilize horses to form 50 pages and 10 pages of destructive destruction Cavalry divisions. In addition, to form 6 divisions in the Central Asian Military District (4) and the Ural Military District (2).
08.07.1941 Further specification.

Initial 56 Divisions approved with dates and TOE proposal (the small one).
For whatever reason it is forgettoing about all AMMGs...
19.07.1941

3 Approve the following armament for each rifle division:
Rifles — 11,000 pieces
Light machine guns — 162
Machine guns — 108
PPSh — 162
50-mm mortars — 54
82-mm mortars — 18
120-mm mortars — 6
45-mm anti-tank guns — 18
76-mm regimental guns — 12
76-mm divisional guns — 16
85-mm anti-aircraft guns — 4
122-mm howitzers — 8
37-mm anti-aircraft guns — 6
Trucks — 120
STZ-5 tractors − 12
Initial TOE Version release.
29.07.1941 (Regiment):
[Otherwise, see BArch RH 2/2713 pics 9+21 for a "full TOE" and Errata in German Intel]
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Increase of 50mm+82mm Mortars from 50mm 54→81 and 82mm 18→54.
09.08.1941

In order to increase the firepower of the rifle division and cavalry division, the State Defense Committee decrees:
To change the organization chart of the above-mentioned divisions and have:

1. In a rifle division:
a) not 54 - 50 mm mortars, but 81 - 50 mm mortars, having 1 - 50 mm mortar for each rifle platoon;
b) to have not 18 82 mm mortars per rifle division, but 54, having in each rifle battalion not a mortar platoon, but a mortar company consisting of 6 - 82 mm mortars.
Increase of 120mm from 6→18.
11.08.1941
4. The rifle divisions shall have the following composition:
People - 11,447 people.
Horses - 2,698 heads.
Rifles — 8,844
Light machine guns — 162
PPSh — 162
Machine guns — 108
37mm anti-aircraft guns or 25mm anti-aircraft guns — 6
45mm guns — 18
12.7mm anti-aircraft machine guns — 9
or 25mm anti-aircraft guns — 4
76mm regimental guns — 12
76mm divisional guns — 16
122mm howitzers — 8
50mm mortars — 81
82mm mortars — 54
120mm mortars — 18
Cars — 4
Trucks — 192
Special vehicles — 5
Tractors - 15
It is highlighted that both Versions existed simultanously (besides the fact that many Divisions stayed on the 04/1941 TOE), whereas the Divisions created between 6th of July and 11th of August 1941 (all) most likely got and kept the initial TOE (small - currently available almost exactly like that as "Milita" RD) until December/early 1942 (at least) [example 226RD]. It'd make sense adding one TOE, making it two different ones during this period for regular Divisions and form the new/scheduled Divisions during this time according to their initial TOE. The following is a list of the 56 Divisions (see "Code window") initially ordered to be formed.
Note: We have 2 cases of Milita conversions and one case of a Error with mixing up two Divisions eventually.
...not 100% sure about the Milita stuff yet (the PTRDs should be deleted, that's 99%)...But from current observations I'd say to create all in this list according to the small TOE and leave everyting else as is.

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211 SD - MVO - Zagorsk dislocation - by 28.07.41.		SR	T4
223 SD — HVO — Kharkov dislocation — by 24.07.41.		SR	T3
226 SD - Odvo - DISTaculation of Nuts - by 08.08.41.		SR	T5
230 SD - Odvo - dislocation of Dnepropetrovsk - by 20.08.41.	SR	T6
253 SD – Odvo — Nikopol deployment — by 01.08.41.		SR	T4
255 SD - Odvo - dislocation of Pavlograd - by 20.08.41.		SR	T4
258 SD – OrVO – Orel dislocation – by 24.07.41.			SR	T4
260 SD - MBO - Kimra dislocation - by 26.07.41.			SR	T3
261 SD — Odvo — Berdyansk dislocation — to 16.08.41.		SR	T5
263 SD - Archvo - dislocation of Vologda - by 30.07.41.		SR	T5
264 sd - CVO - dislocation of Poltava - by 24.07.41.		SR	T4
266 SD - MVO - Kaluga dislocation - to 12.08.41.		SR	T2
267 SD - OrVO - Dislocation of Old Oskol - by 20.08.41.		SR	T4
269 SD - MVO - space Colomna - by 28.07.41.			SR	T4
270 SD - Odvo - Dislocation of Melitopol - to 16.08.41.		SR	T4
271 sd - OrVO - Dislocation of Mzensk - by 30.07.41.		SR	T4
272 SD - LAN - dislocation Tikhvin - by 30.07.41.		SR	T5
273 sd - Odvo - dislocation Dnepdzerzhinsk - by 01.08.41.	SR	T4
274 SD - Odvo - dislocation Zaporozhye - to 08.08.41.		SR	T4
275 SD - Odvo - deployment of Novomoskovsk - to 08.08.41.	SR	T4
276 SD - OrVO - Oboyan dislocation - by 30.07.41.		SR	T4
277 SD — OrVO — Dmitrov-Lgovsky dislocation — to 08.08.41.	SR	T4
278 SD - OrVO - Livna dislocation - to 26.07.41.		SR	T4
279 SD - MVO - dislocation Gorky - by 28.07.41.			SR	T3
280 SD - MVO - Tula dislocation - to 28.07.41.			SR	T3
281 SD - LVO - Borovichi dislocation - by 30.07.41.		SR	T4
282 SD - MVO - dislocation of Yuriev-Polish - to 12.08.41.	SR	T3
283 SD - OrVO - Schigrey dislocation - to 08.08.41.		SR	T5
284 SD - HVO - dislocation of the Romn - by 30.07.41.		SR	T4
285 SD - UMV - Kostroma dislocation - by 12.08.41.		SR	T3
286 SD - Archvo - dislocation Cherepovets - by 30.07.41.	SR	T5
287 SD - OrVO - Yetz deployment - by 04.08.41.			SR	T3
288 SD - MVO - dislocation of Yaroslavl - to 12.08.41.		SR	T4
289 SD - HVO - dislocation of Lubnya - to 24.07.41.		SR	T4
290 SD - MVO - Kalyazin dislocation - by 28.07.41.		SR	T4
291 SD - MVO - Dislocation Rybinsk - to 16.08.41.		SR	T3	11th Moscow Militia (renamed T5)
292 SD - MVO - Ryazhsk dislocation - by 20.08.41.		SR	T3
293 SD - CVO - space of Sumy - by 16.08.41.			SR	T4
294 SD — OrVO — Lipetsk deployment — by 20.08.41.		SR	T3	1st. Gd. Leningrad Militia (renamed T14)
295 sd - HVO - Chuguev dislocation - by 01.08.41.		SR	T4
296 SD - Odvo - dislocation Genichesk - by 04.08.41.		SR	T3
297 SD - CVO - Dislocation Romodan - by 30.07.41.		SR	T4
298 SD - MVO - Dislocation Kalinin - by 24.07.41.		SR	T3
299 SD - Orvo - Belgorod dislocation - by 16.08.41.		SR	T4
300 SD — HVO — Krasnograd dislocation — to 08.08.41.		SR	T4
301 SD - HVO - Dislocation Mirgorod - by 24.07.41.		SR	T4
303 SD - OrVO - deployment of Voronezh - to 26.07.41.		SR	T4
305 SD - MVO - Dmitrov dislocation - by 30.07.41.		SR	T3
307 SD - MVO - Ivanovo deployment - to 12.08.41.		ERROR WITH 304 !!!
309 SD - OrVO - dislocation Kursk - by 26.07.41.		SR	T4
310 SD — SABO — dislocation Akmolinsk — by 01.08.41.		SR	T5
311 SD - UrVO - dislocation of Kirov - by 30.07.41.		SR	T5
312 SD — SABO — Aktobe dislocation — by 04.08.41.		SR	T5
313 SD — URVO — dislocation of Izhevsk — by 01.08.41.		SR	T5
314 SD — SABO — dislocation of Petropavlovsk — by 04.08.41.	SR	T6
315 SD - SABO - Alma-Ata dislocation - to 04.08.41.		(I assume) Disbaned and only created in 1942
Further Amendments happened especially in October.

Restructuring (centralizing Mortars into Battalions for each Regiment), totals: 72x50mm+72x82mm+18x120mm
12.10.1941

№ 91. Order on the reorganization of mortar units into battalions and divisions [Divizion, so Battalions ...]

№ 0405 October 12, 1941


The current organization and combat use of mortars, scattered among small rifle units, does not provide the necessary fire action against the enemy.

Mortars operating alone lose a lot in terms of firepower. Mortar fire, which is distinguished by a great moral impact and material damage, if not used massively, does not give the necessary results.

The same fire of a mortar group, centralized in the hands of one commander, by its power, destructive effect on the enemy always leads to its rapid suppression and destruction, predetermining the success of the battle of rifle units.

The ease of carrying mortars, the simplicity and accessibility of choosing firing positions make it possible to maneuver a group of mortars from one direction of battle of a battalion and regiment to another, which can achieve fire superiority over the enemy in a short period of time.

The existing organization of mortar units does not meet these advantageous requirements and is flawed.

I order:
  1. To cancel the existing staff organization of dispersed mortar units.
  2. To remove mortars from rifle companies and battalions and in each rifle regiment the regiment commander should have at his disposal {115} a mortar battalion of 3 companies, in each company 4 platoons, in a platoon 4 mortars.
    In a mortar company to have two platoons of 4 50-mm mortars and two platoons of 4 82-mm mortars. In total, a mortar company has 16 mortars; in a mortar battalion 48 mortars.
  3. Remove 120 mm mortars from the rifle regiment and place at the disposal of the division commander a 120 mm mortar battalion consisting of 3 batteries, each battery of 3 platoons with 2 mortars per platoon. In total, a battery has 6 120 mm mortars, a battalion has 18 120 mm mortars. [117]
  4. Regiment and division commanders are to use mortar battalions and battalions in a centralized manner, using them en masse and by maneuvering companies and the battalion (division) as a whole to create superiority in firepower over the enemy in the direction of the main attack.
Widely use maneuver, surprise in opening massive mortar fire to destroy the enemy's manpower and material resources.

People's Commissar of Defense I. Stalin

f. 4, op. 11, d. 65, p. 179-181. Original.
The addition of the SMG Companies to the Regiments:
12.10.1941

№ 92. Order on the introduction of submachine gun companies into the staff of rifle regiments

№ 0406 October 12, 1941


In modern infantry combat, mass{116} automatic fire represents a huge firepower, hampering the enemy's maneuver in defense and decisively suppressing his manpower during an attack.

Automatic fire, used suddenly and by a large number of submachine guns, allows the enemy's battle formations to be immediately disrupted and the enemy to be severely defeated.

The organization of submachine guns that exists in our infantry does not give the regiment commander the opportunity to decisively influence the enemy, both during the offensive and in defense, with mass automatic fire and thereby dominate him.

This same organization does not allow the senior infantry commander to have in his hands a permanent, maneuverable, strong fire fist of submachine gunners, using which in any combat situation the senior infantry commander could firmly impose his will on the enemy.

In order to eliminate the existing shortcoming in automatic fire of the existing rifle division according to the organization chart No. 04/600, I order:
  1. To place at the disposal of the regiment commander a company of fighters armed with submachine guns (PPSh) in each rifle regiment.
  2. To call the company a company of submachine gunners.
  3. Rifle regiment commanders are to widely use companies of submachine gunners to create decisive fire superiority over the enemy in close combat, in ambushes, during flanking, searches, to cover maneuvers, using the surprise and mass nature of automatic fire.
People's Commissar of Defense I. Stalin

f. 4. op. 11, d. 66, l. 182-183. Original. Published. in the Collection of Combat Documents of the Great Patriotic War. No. 5. Moscow, 1947. P. 24.
PTRDs seem to only/mostly been introduced into the later TOE 751 in December as far as I have found/understood (until now), so about as in game right now. First frontline use/trials of PTRD was in November according to CttRA.

  • Regular Shtat No. 04/600-616 of 29.07.1941 Soviet Archives or nwtele
    04/637 Military Tribunal TOE

    micelaneous/issues
    I do not yet know where the +9 Squads in the original vanilla TOE are originating from.
    The Pioneer Battalion didn't have SMGs, so this can't be it.
    Recons are all accounted for with the 21xFoot+6xHorsed.
  • NEW (eventually)Regular Initial/Small 07/1941 (Updates to 12/1941)
    • Manpower
      see pic
      10790
    • AAMGs (0xQuad+9xDShK→18xQuad+9xDShK)
      Found the original Regiment TOE, there were 18xQuad AAMG+9xDShK inisde the 3 Regiments it appears, why they are not listed in some lists/occasions I do not know. So either add them or remove the manpower.
      Those 18 Quad AAMG need/would have needed 31Men x 3Regt = 93Men.
      Other Sources: The CttRA and the nwtele give 10859Men (2695Men per Regiment) and the 18xQuad and the German intel 10790Men (2695Men per Regiment) but does not list the Quad AAMG.
    • Flamethrowers (4→3)
      Need to be reduced, as with the TOE/Post before. It had 3 Groups of 11Men [10 Flamethrowers] each, totalling 30 Flamethrowers.
    • PTRD (IRL 0→0) 48Men
      I did not find TOEs from 06-08/1941 which are actually containing the PTRDs already. Most likely to me is that they got added to TOEs later on without highlighting them as an Amendment.
    • Mortars ([54-18-6])
      The Mortars were vastly reduced to 54-18-6 for a short period of time (~early July till early August, see Timeline above). Looking through several Strength reports which include authorized strengths it seems like the later setup of Mortars were more common (together with the setup of the prior TOE which also remained in service). So applying this TOE to the Division created during this time makes sense (it's about 50, see Timeline).
    • Sappers (19→50)
      see the pic for calculations
      As with the 04/1941 TOE massive amounts are missing, not sure what the reason for that is.
    • Recons
      see the pic for calculations
      Take the 21xRifle Squad (-) for Regimental and Divisional Foot/Mot. Recons.
      Cavalry may be some men too many, but keeping the 6x still seems alright.
  • Regular Amended/big 08/1941 (Updates to 12/1941)
    • Manpower
      see pic
      11496
    • AAMGs (0xQuad+9xDShK→18xQuad+9xDShK)
      Found the original Regiment TOE, there were 18xQuad AAMG+9xDShK inisde the 3 Regiments it appears, why they are not listed in some lists/occasions I do not know. So either add them or remove the manpower.
      Those 18 Quad AAMG need/would have needed 31Men x 3Regt = 93Men.
      Other Sources: The CttRA and the nwtele give 10859Men (2695Men per Regiment) and the 18xQuad and the German intel 10790Men (2695Men per Regiment) but does not list the Quad AAMG.
    • Flamethrowers (4→6)
      One of the amendments (I did not find the order, it's described in CttRA and shown in the German Intel's Amendment translation) added the Flamethrowers into the Regiments, so the 30x Flamethrowers in total became 20x per Regiment (so 60x in total).
    • PTRD (IRL 0→0) 48Men
      I did not find TOEs from 06-08/1941 which are actually containing the PTRDs already. Most likely to me is that they got added to TOEs later on without highlighting them as an Amendment.
    • Mortars ([54-18-6]→[81-54-18])
      The Mortars were reduced to 54-18-6 with the initial version, already in 08/1941 increased again to 81-54-18.
    • Sappers (19→50)
      see the pic for calculations
      As with the 04/1941 TOE massive amounts are missing, not sure what the reason for that is.
    • Recons
      see the pic for calculations
      Take the 21xRifle Squad (-) for Regimental and Divisional Foot/Mot. Recons.
      Cavalry may be some men too many, but keeping the 6x still seems alright.
  • Militia 06/1941 (similar to the small one, slight differences)

    General Note.
    Hard to rly find main sources or general proper Infos (and obv. each RD, especially amongst these Militias looked different). So I don't think I can right now look deeper into this.

    As far as I've found/seen the initial idea was to either use the normal TOE from 04/1941 with ~14k+ Men. The ~10500 ended up being the Lenigrad's sizes by massively reducing (or missing) all the Supporting stuff (as with the Moscow TOE, probably not as pronounced). Somehow as the quote shows there was already before the war some proposed ~9424 Manpower Divisional TOE (I can't access/find the source for that number in the Source), which is reflected in the Moscow Militia TOE, which seems fine.
    What both, Leningrad and Moscow region Militias ended up looking like is more in the area of the small 08/1941 TOE, so the currently ingame TOEs therefore look pretty good and could only need minor changes eventually, if any. There are just some Militias/Communist RDs which got later mobilized or last long enuff to even be remotely close getting PTRDs, so I assume this causes the PTRDs to be present already in the initial TOE.

    Some Info I've found:
    List of Divisions creation/disbandment/renamings
    https://journals.rudn.ru/russian-history/article/view/42329/24370 wrote:In their organization, personnel, weapons, and equipment, the people's militia divisions differed significantly from the rifle divisions of the Red Army. When they were created, they were initially guided by the staffing and organization of a reduced-strength Red Army rifle division (9,424 men) introduced shortly before the start of the war12. However, most of the people's militia divisions had to be significantly reduced in the first weeks after the withdrawal from Moscow, dismissing soldiers who were unfit for health and adjusting the staffing to the available resources. To replenish them, reserve regiments were disbanded, and their personnel and equipment were used to staff the remaining regiments. There was no unified organization of the militia divisions. For example, in the 33rd Army, there were three staffing tables for five people's militia divisions (from 7,547 to 7,831 men)13. In total, as of August 10, 1941, there were 87,946 people listed in the 12 divisions of the people's militia.1
    Organizationally, the people's militia division consisted of a command, to which were subordinated a headquarters, a political department, three rifle regiments, an artillery division of 45-mm guns, an artillery division of 76-mm guns, a medical battalion, and companies: motor transport, communications, sapper, and reconnaissance. A rifle regiment consisted of a headquarters, three rifle battalions, a battery of 45-mm guns, a battery of 76-mm guns, a communications company, sapper and transport platoons, and a supply point. A rifle battalion included a battalion headquarters, three rifle companies, a machine-gun company, communications, medical, supply, and 82-mm mortar platoons. 15 It should be noted that, in comparison with the organizational structure of a rifle division, many special and rear services of the people's militia divisions (communications, engineering, transport, rear, medical, food supply) were, as they say, in an "embryonic" state. Some types of combat support, such as air defense systems, were completely absent.
    Moscow Militia Text 2
    Moscow Militias Formation Order

    For the Moscow Milita RDs it is mentioned that the AA (batl.) was missing, this is a change I could imagine would make sense.
    Removing the PTRDs from the "regular" Militia TOE (so the one Leningrad RDs use) seems reasonable, none being around anymore when PTRDs pop up in 12/1941.

    Divisions that exist during period when PTRDs are a thing:
    2nd Communist Moscow Militia Rifle Division
    3rd Communist Moscow Militia Rifle Division
    4th Workers Moscow Militia Rifle Division
    5th Workers Moscow Militia Rifle Division
    ...all others have been renamed prior.
    All 4 using the "Moscow Militia" TOE.

  • Guards (only starts 09/1941)
    Nothing specific known.
    The first four Divisions were made Guards on 18.09.1941. Ingame it starts with T12 (07.09.1941).

    An idea would be to use an ameneded variant of the 600series TOE (Amended 10/1941) for this Guards TOE, it'd not be 100% historically reasoned (as in: this change wasn't influenced by Guards, nor was there any distinction between Guards and normal TOEs during this time (afaik)).
    This could include either of these changes:
    • 81x50mm+54x82mm Mortars changing to 72x50mm+72x82mm Mortars = +241Men
    • addition of the three SMG Companies (one=9squads of 10Men per Regiment) (+27 SMG Squads) = +300Men
      Latought this Squad's production only begins 10/1941, so tere'd be some leeway

    ....both are amendments/orders made on 12.10.1941.
    Just an idea, as said not necessary or 100% history-related.
  • Reduced Shtat RD TOEs [OB:2327-2352]
    I don't know what exactly they are based on/intended to do, they are not used in GC41 at least.
    The regular TOE (which we discussed in this Post) was "reduced" by erasing one Artillery Regiment and so on.
    The "Reduced" subject only later pops up (again) in ~1943 historically as you may see further down in the Thread. Possible that there were also been some adjustments prior but nothing "official" or not in a scale worth making an whole set of TOE for?!

    The Levels of this TOE's reduction I only know from ~1943+, since it requires quite a lot of "cutting" (324→108Squads).
    1. removing one Squad per Platoon (4→3), happened
    2. reducing the Battalions to 2 per Regiment, happened "oficially" in 12/1943 (one I know of)
    3. Reducing one more echelon which ussually has 3x to 2x (happened in varying versions)

    Additionally they are (except one other TOE) the only TOEs so far using the Reconnaissance Squad 41 with 11Men [10SMG, 1Carbine] which is also weird - A Squad I do not know what it is based on, but at least can good be used as Recon Squad in the Rifle Divisions from 12/1942 TOE onwards to represent the massive SMG influx.
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12/1941 - finished 14.07.2025
  • Regular Shtat No. 04/750-769 of 06.12.1941 nwtele
    • Manpower
      11907-191(Rocket)-213(Mot.Mort)=11503
    • Rockets
      It is noted that only a few Divisions ever received the Rockets. So the Manpower must be substracted.
      -191 manpower was removed (including the three AAMGs 12→9)
    • Mortars (Mot.)
      There were optional additional 18x120mm Mortars possible. Looking the ingame values for Trucks (only around 60 while IRL it was 220+ and 152 without the rockets+120mm "mot.") it does not add up using the "Mot." for calculations as the standard, so the towed (horsed) 120mm mortar manpower stays and the "mot." is substracted.
      -213 manpower removed
    • Sappers (15→30)
      Here it is not 100% clear. The total of the Battalion was/is:
      now: 241
      before: 417
      future: 228
      So there are varying versions how it could have been changed, Companies were most likely reduced from 3 to 2, but further the Squad number (4 or 3) and the Manpower per Squad (8 or 9) are not clear to me. Made it a compromise.
    • Recon
      21xFoot Recons (without LMGs), shifted 21xRifle Squad 41 to 21xRifle Squad (-)
      6xCavalry - again no perfect solution, left as is.

  • Guards
    Nothing Guards specific yet (as it seems).
    Some Guards (also normal Divisions) seem to still have been on the 400series 04/1941 TOE.

    Otherwise no additional Info known to me. Not sure when exacty the Guard's additional SMG Company per Regiment was introduced between 12/41-03/42.
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03/1942 - finished 14.07.2025

full official Weapons/Equip TOE
general calculation table 1
general calculation table 2
04/214 Chemical

  • Regular Shtat No. 04/200-216 of 18.03.1942 NH or nwtele or rkka
    • Manpower
      12Men vs 11Men Squad Issue:
      For this TOE we may I accounted for the Soviets authorizing 12Men per Squad. Before it's usually been 11Men Line Infantry Squads, after it it's been 9Men. This also goes for the Rifle Briage 04/1942 during this period. So a solution applied to (Div/Brig = Corps) equally is preferrable.
      This period is simply the one with the biggest ever Company size (CttRA), partially caused by this temporary Squad size increase.

      Base is 12813 or 12795 (I am using the first right now, it includes Post- and Payment-Office and +3 in Div. HQ)

      Two possible proposals:
      1. Simply substract the 324Men. = 12489
      2. 324 (missing men) - (30 Sapper) - (24 Cav) = 270
        ...by adding 3xSapper (so the Squad number of Sappers is correct) =30
        ...by accounting for surplus Cavalry with 12Men Squads vs 7 or 8 Men Squads ~(6x12-6x8)=24
        So 12813-270=12543


      I'd argue to use proposal 2, making it correct number of Sapper Squads and 12543Men per Division.
      And apply the same logic to the 04/1942 Rifle Brigade.
    • Reductions
      Removed Training devices for MMG, PTRD, 50mm Mortar, 82mm Mortar.
    • Sappers
      see calculation on pic
      I suggest the second manpower proposal and increase Sappers to the correct total number of Squads and account for some of the missing manpower inside regular Squads (12Men vs 11Men Squads).
    • Recons
      Foot: Had no LMGs, changed 21xRifle Squad 41 to 21xRifle Squad (-)
      Cavalry: Yet again no perfect solution possible without adding a new Squad, so stays at 6. Some surplus manpower was substracted with manpower proposal number 2.
  • Guards
    Each Guards Regiment had 2 SMG Companies instead of the 1 SMG Company in the regular division.
    Each SMG Company is 100Men → 9Squads of 10Men with 10SMGs.

    • Manpower
      final regular figure +300Men (+27xSMG Squad with 10Men [10SMG] each)

      12843

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07/1942 - not used in game, therefore - finished 15.07.2025
This is essentially the over time upgraded TOE from 03/1942. German Intel always notes the this TOE most likely did not get into effect seriously/often, since new TOE came out End of July. But some Sources note that several Divisions remained on the 200Series (03/1942 + this 07/1942), some even at the 12/1941 TOE 750s series.
  • Regular Shtat No. 04/200-216 of July 1942 (Updated 03/1942 - version)


  • Guards
    Each Guards Regiment had 2 SMG Companies instead of 1 SMG Company in the regular division.
    Each SMG Company is 100Men → 9Squads of 10Men with 10SMGs.
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08/1942 - finished 14.07.2025
The TOE from German Intel contains changes up until 22nd of October 1942.
The issue is that in later reports from ~October 1943, the TOE is re-calculated to have +18Pak and +27MMGs.
This makes per Regiment +6Pak and +9MMGs. This exactly matches what was changed in the Regimental DECEMBER 1942 TOE 04/551. My assumption is that all the larger numbers calculations from German intel which were published in 1943 (e.g. using +18Pak +27MMG) are based on using this TOE.
Regarding the +18xPak there was already a change to the old TOE (300 series) with Order of October 18th 1942 it appears! So since this is "proven" the replacement of the 18xAmpoulet with Pak makes sense at least.
The Intel also contains a mentioning about restructuring of the HMGs, not sure if this lead to "double-counting" or actually adding additional 27xHMGs (and the date is unknown), so this isn't fully clear, I propose adding the 27HMG only to the Guards. not a factual 100% proven/historic thing but I'd say it fits.
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Ampoulets are not available in game, some TOEs have 18 of those (6 per Regiment). But I have also found this TOE (no date), of an Ampoulet unit in a Regiment using 8.
Following is a calculation on how the replacement may look like:
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  • Regular Shtat No. 04/300-316 of 28.07.1942 nwtele

    calculation (includes Rifle Brigade)

    • Manpower
      Basis 10393+108=10501
    • Ampoulet
      Replaced by 18x45mmPak ends up being +108Men to the Divisional total, using 3x the Regimental Tank Destroyer Battery added in 12/1942.
    • HMGs (139→108)
      The original TOE clearly does only have 108. For the Guards I'd add additional 27 as an compromise.
    • Mortars (see pic - removed training devices)
    • PTRD removed training devices
    • Sappers (24→22)
      see pic for calculation
    • Recon
      Foot: Previous 21xRifle Squad 42 (9Men) becomes 18x11Men Rifle Squad (-), so Recon stays the same Squad up until this point. The first change comes in the following 12/1942 TOE.
      Horsed: As before no perfect solution without new Squads, stays as is.
  • Guards
    • Manpower
      Basis 10393+108+300+162=10963
    • Ampoulet
      Replaced by 18x45mmPak ends up being +108Men to the Divisional total, using 3x the Regimental Tank Destroyer Battery added in 12/1942.
    • HMG (139(108 IRL)→135) see the light blue in the pic
      I decided to add the 27HMGs here, not 100% Guards related (if related to anything actually), ...but would make sense. I basically added 3 HMGs (so one "group") per Battalion to the already existing HMG Company with 9 HMG each, using a ratio of 6Men per 1 HMG. It'd also be possible that those additional HMGs (if actually in place) were already the later found HMGs inside the Companies (1 per Company in regular TOEs from 12/1942 onwards), but I don't want to mess with the Company when adding it in this issue.
    • Mortars (see pic - removed training devices)
    • PTRD removed training devices
    • Sappers see Regular
    • Recon see Regular

    No definitive Info besides the regular doubling of Regimental SMG Companies compared to the Regular TOE.
    For Guards specific, German Intel only has a "13000" with questionmarks in reports. It seems that (some) Guard units were left at the previous TOE 200series with changes till 07/1942 (which had added lots of Mortar quantity but also had more than 13k Men) until in December when the first "real" Guards TOE was published. As an compromise 27 additional MMGs are added.
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12/1942 (first time official GUARDs TOE) - finished 15.07.2025

General Note:
I take the highest Manpower figure I can find (CttRA/rkku/nwtele/calculations) to start (which is already lower then what's currently ingame). German Intel is even lower. I assume this is related to continuous amendments reducing/increasing TOEs over the time. It is noted (CttRA) that some parts were simply renamed/restructured while keeping the same Manpower, so the "size" may have changed from Company to Battalion (or reverse) but manpower remained (largely) the same. Additionally there were/may have been some actual size changes (one part scaling up, one down) simultaneously which also kept the manpower relatively constant (and not having any effect on the ingame situation (e.g. changing communications and training "parts").
To me it appears that the many small changes over time, combined with the change of the AT Battalion and addition of the AAMGs in mid 1944 overall kept those TOEs at about the same manpower [+/- 100] (eyeballed numbers).
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  • Regular Shtat No 04/550-562 of 10.12.1942 NH or nwtele
    evaluation of the TOE from May 1943
    04/551 Regiment (short summary)
    04/551 Amendments (July 1943?)
    04/551 111Men Company
    штата № 04/552 артиллерийского полка стрелковой дивизии
    04/552 Artillery changes to TOE
    04/552 Artillery more changes 1945
    04/553 Field Training
    04/554 AT Battalion
    04/555 Recon Company
    04/556 Sappers
    04/556 + 04/561 (Sappers)+Medic
    Sappers 1945
    04/557 Communications
    04/558 Chemical
    04/559 Auto/Transport
    04/560 Field Bakery
    04/561 Medic Battalion
    04/562 Horse Veterinary
    04/563 HQ/Staff
    04/563 HQ/Staff
    04/569

    Further:
    04/552 Artillery Regiment (RH 2/2518 page 184ff)
    04/556 Pioneer Battalion (RH 2/2518 page 190)
    04/551 Regiment (RH 2/2518 page 192)
    04/552 Artillery (RH 2/2517 page 586)

    • Manpower
      9435
    • Mortars
      120mm: (18→21)
      Here there are contraticting infos on whether each Regiment had 6 or 7 120mm Mortars.
      Many Divisions kept the 300series of 08/1942 TOE at least till 02-04/1943 it appears and therefore those ran with the 18x120mm Mortars. Not sure if there is a 100% truth here. I found two mentionings in interrogation reports, that the 7th Mortar in a Regiment (making it 21 instead of 18) was somewhat "separate" because this one was supposed to be "directly available for the Regiment and/or Battery Commanders". I assume this causes some of the confusion.
      I decided to go with the 21, since there's just too many proper Sources citing the 3x7=21.
      82mm: (see pic - removed training devices)
    • HMGs (see pic - removed training devices)
    • PTRDs (see pic - removed training devices)
    • Sappers (24→18)
      The Regular Divisions had only 2 Companies in the Divisional Engineer Battalion, making it 18 Squads (to fit the total Manpower).
    • Recon
      Foot: SMGs as discussed in other occasions were massivley increased during early/mid 1943. One increase already must have happened before the (further) increase in 05/1943, so these additional SMGs I'd put in these Recon Squads and simply use 12xReconnaissance Squad 41 [10SMG, 1Carbine].
      Horse: 3 Squads make sense here, stays and gets Upgraded in 06/1943 to the new Cavalry Squad 43 with many SMGs.
  • Guards Shtat No. 04/500-512 of 10.12.1942 nwtele

    total Manpower/parts calculation 10670Men
    another Manpower/parts calculation 10670Men
    several changes (date?)
    Some Guards TOE numbers from late 1943. Regiment=2758
    German Intel TOE numbers List [BArch RH 2/2519 p.217]
    04/500 HQ Staff
    04/501 Regiment [BArch RH 2/2519 p.219ff] - see Attachment
    04/502 Artillery (strength report 1945)
    04/502 Artillery (changes when mot.)
    04/503 Training Battalion
    04/504 AT Battalion (45mm(12x)+PTRD(36x)) [BArch RH 2/2519 p.205]
    04/505 Recon Company
    04/506 Sapper Battalion
    04/507 Communications Company (may have later become Battalion (without real manpower changes))
    04/508 Chemical Co
    04/509 Motor Transport Co
    04/510 Field Bakery
    04/511 Medical Battalion
    04/512 Horse Vet
    04/96-W Field Post
    04/16 Bank

    • Manpower
      10670
    • Mortars (see pic - removed training devices)
    • HMGs (see pic - removed training devices)
    • PTRDs (see pic - removed training devices)
    • AAMG (9→0)
      I did so far not find proper mentioning of those 9 DShK in Guards TOEs. I only have this calculation accounting for 3xDShK per Regiment, but it also accounts for 24x50mm+24x82mm Mortars per Regiment (instead of 18+27)...so it's little weird. Additionally the 120mm Mortar is separated, so it reminds one more of earlier TOEs (before 12/1942).
      Mostly the AAMGs re-appeard in Divisional/Regimental TOEs sometime in 1944 again.
    • Sappers (24→18)
      Guards supposedly had 3 Companies (CttRA) in the Divisional Engineer Battalion, leaving the 24 Squads (to fit the total Manpower).
      Unfortunately there are some contradictions with the 05/506 TOE, which is ~165Men as the 05/556 is and which leaves the question where the additional ~9x7Men Squads are supposed to be comming from. Since the 556 only has 2 Companies. So I stick to 18 Squads.
    • Recon
      Foot: SMGs as discussed in other occasions were massivley increased during early/mid 1943. One increase already must have happened before the (further) increase in 05/1943, so these additional SMGs I'd put in these Recon Squads and simply use 12xReconnaissance Squad 41 [10SMG, 1Carbine].
      Horse: 3 Squads make sense here, stays and gets Upgraded in 06/1943 to the new Cavalry Squad 43 with many SMGs.
    Following is a German Intel calculation from late 1943, it again contradicts the 18 vs 21 Mortars in the Regular TOE. Otherwise this should be about the best listing I could find. They make some conclusions/comments at the end in which they compare it to the TOEs used before the 12/1942 TOEs.
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06/1943 (MISSING GUARDS Update) - finished 16.07.2025
Here the SMG situation needs to be solved (for both types of TOEs) I'd say. See the Thread on Soviet SMG Squads for more info.

During this time the 12/1942 TOE was slightly adjusted, it appears here officially the number of SMGs was increased by making one Platoon per Company a SMG Platoon Order #46175 of 23rd of May 1943. Further an order of late (25th/27th(??)) May 1943 must have put the SMG numbers from "1450 to 2110" (German Intel: BArch RH 2/1330 pic 71) it appears. But the actual 12/1942 TOE only had 727 MP, so there must have been an official increase beforehand already.
The Additional SMGs were, used to equip one Platoon of each Company fully with MPs. Some kept their LMGs, others didn't. I've also seen some of those Platoons having some weird "LMG Squad" with multiple LMGs, so this seems to also have been a way to make use of the LMGs when the Squads where fully armed with SMGs. I seen noted in several occasions that the total of LMGs per Company was not supposed to be changed/reduced due to the up-/rearmament with SMGs. Later on in 1944 there are occasionally whole Companies being equipped with SMGs.
  • Regular - about the same as 12/1942
    Some in early 1943 were still on the 08/1942 300series TOEs.
    German Intel calculation: RH 2/2517 p.556
    • Manpower
      9402 - probably cut some corners while also adding several smaller elements giving a slight overall decrease.
    • Line Infantry
      Adding 1/3rd of Squads as SMG Squads (+) with LMGs. Those need to be reduced from 11 to 9Men! See this Post further down for all the Squad changes needed.
    • Mortars
      81mm - reduced training devices
      120mm (21)
      "21 vs 18 issue". As noted it's not 100% clear how it happened/was set up to me. My assumption is that the 18 is either related to the several reduced Divisional TOEs or it is related to the "special use" as the "Commanders Mortar" (see 12/1942 for more info).
    • MMGs - reduced training devices
    • PTRD - reduced training devices
    • Sappers (24→18)
    • Recons
      Foot: keeping the Setup of 12/1942 with 12xReconnaissance Squad 41 [10SMG, 1Car]
      Horse: Using 3xCavalry Squad 43 to reflect the massive addition of SMGs to the TOE seems fine.
  • Guards - about the same as 12/1942
    MISSING - There needs to be an Guards TOE as well on this date.
    There may have not been an "official" new release (as with the many official reduced TOEs ...), so I assume that's why it is missing in game. I feel like Guards also regularly used the Regular TOEs (especially the reduced versions) and may have only kept the Artillery Battalion a little larger.
    The numbers of SMGs were equally to the Regular TOE increased, to 2480 in late May 1943 for the Guards.

    • Manpower
      10708 - there seems to be a slight increase of ~50, due to either newly adding or previously forgetting to calculate into the totals of some small Supporting elements. In this case mostly the Division's Artillery Commander Battery mostly. Adding them here fits well, for when negative Ammo modifierts are reduced in 01/1944 I suppose.
    • Line Infantry
      Adding 1/3rd of Squads as SMG Squads (+) with LMGs. Those need to be reduced from 11 to 9Men! See this Post further down for all the Squad changes needed.
    • Mortars - reduced training devices
    • AT Guns
      Upgrade to the new 45mm AT Gun M42 seems reasonable (I don't have any hard facts on which formations would receive these new guns. Those 45mm guns are nowhere separately mentioned, only some interrogation reports report some "long barreled 45mm").
    • MMGs - reduced training devices
      They simply can keep Maxims (as currently without any new TOE for Guards), so they do not suddenly disappear and Production for SG-43 is reflected/"limited".
    • PTRD - reduced training devices and further reduced by some change to PTRD numbers in the Artillery Regiment in 1943/44.
    • Sappers (24→18)
    • Recons
      Foot: keeping the Setup of 12/1942 with 12xReconnaissance Squad 41 [10SMG, 1Car]
      Horse: Upgrading to 3xCavalry Squad 43 to reflect the massive addition of SMGs to the TOE.

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Need to be assigned/worked through:
calculation Regiment 08/1943
calculation Regment 04/551 2083Men
Regimental Equipment calculation, (DShK)
Comparison regular Regiment vs reduced


08/1943 - REDUCED STRENGTH (or reduced before that date)

calculation 04/1943
7500 (7487) Rgt:1923, Btl:472, Co:110
7150 Men
7000 Rgt:2444, Btl:612, Co:141 - Regimental Calculation (2 Regiments)
6456Men
#6000 (6026) - no training
5146Men
#5000Men (5141) - no Training, no AA
#4000Men (4277) - no Training, no AA
4500Men 1945 Rgt:1004
4000Men
5680Men
Reduced comparisons Regiments
List of reduced Manpower (exact positions removed) for different divisional sizes of the 3rd Ukrainian Front 04.10.1944 (BArch RH 2/2518 p.10ff)


  • Regular same Shtat numbers as regular TOE it seems, 22.08.1943
    Major TOE that changed was the Regiment Shtat No. 551 of 22.08.1943 which I posted here already. It must also be the reason for thw hole 9→11Men increase, which therefore needs to be accounted here.

    TOE(s) changed in varying ways during late 1943 and 1944 and several different proposals were made which TOE to use at which manpower strength of a Division, Squad compositions and Squad numbers per Division also changed.

    Currently no Reduced strength Divisonal TOEs are used in GC41. But the Rifle Squad 43 increases manpower from 9 to 11Men based on ht mentioned Reduced TOE. So if one does not want to change the 11Men Squads a reduced composition of 8k men must be used (otherwise a Corps will have 1944Men too much inside the main Squads [3Divx324Sqx(11-9Men)=1944Men), so here's a variant of the 06/1943 TOE using the 11Men Squads available in game and as comparison how the full TOE looks with corrected Squads (Sources in the linked Post/Thread).
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  • Guards
    Not sure if there were any specific reduced Guards TOEs. I do not think so.
    Probably using the vanilla Reduced TOE and adding
    +4x76mm Artillery (+87Men)
    +SMG Company per Regiment (3x80=+240Men (of which 20xSMG Squads))
    ...would make sense



12/1943 (does not exist - only GUARDs it seems - if needed)
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During this time the 76mm Pak was added to the TOE but this may not rly have had an effect due to focusing on equipping the separate AT formations.
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06/1944 - finished 18.07.2025

Here we have lots of uncertainties caused by loose statements and changing Squad composition to 11Men without accounting for the reduction in Squads (see Reduced 08/1943 TOE).

Open Questions:
  • NH gives a change of a TOE 04/570 of 30.05.1944 in both Divisional types, what TOE is this? What changes were made?
  • Which order/reason removes the PTRDs from the Guards TOE (reduced?)?
  • Which order/reaason adds supposedly 37mm already here (NH)?
  • 50mm were never rly removed "officially", but still disappeared in probably 90% of Divisions during this period, for once caused by Reduced TOEs (usually instantly set 50mm Mortars to "0") or Front/Army exclusive orders to use Manpower for better assets.
    (What happened to the manpower ...if DIvisions were not Reduced isn't clear (most Divisions were way under strength anyways), ingame those men need to be removed I assume).
  • Squad 43, probably mostly based certain types of Reduced TOEs, see Reduced 08/1943 TOE.
    ...waiting for Devs to tackle issue in one way (fix Squad size) or another (use reduced TOEs).
  • The SU-76 question (when, how many, for whom, which date/order?)

  • Regular NH
    See pic
    • Manpower - see pic
      9430
      As mentioned before, the manpower must have remained somewhat similar with some additions and some straightening of TOEs. With account for the removed 50mm manpower this is actually the case, compensating the new AAMGs/bigger AT Guns/added Sappers.
    • AAMG (0→18)
      18x DShK were added, +97Manpower to the Division's totals.
    • MMG removed training devices
    • Mortars removed training devices
      50mm: were mostly removed - altough not "officially", so Manpower needs to be accounted for.
      120mm: The standard TOE didn't change, so 21 remains 21 and reductions are in all likelyhood related to using reduced TOEs!
    • PTRD removed training devices
    • AT Guns
      AT battalion changes from 12x45mm to 12x76.2mm.
    • Sappers (18→24)
      Supposedly all got an additional Company of Sappers in the Sapper Battalion.
      But obv. not all, ...any at all?
      (all citing the normal 163-166Men Sapper Battalion)
      149.RD 17.08.1944
      241.RD 28.03.1945
      192.RD 15.05.1945
      ..occasionally there are requirements at ~100Men, so possible it was reduced and the stated increases are just "normalizations".
    • Recon no changes to before 12 Foot + 3 Horse
    • Rifle/SMG Squads
      using all corrected Squad sizes, see pic.
  • Guards NH
    See pic

    • Manpower - see pic
      10529
      As mentioned before, the manpower must have remained somewhat similar with some additions and some straightening of TOEs. With account for the removed 50mm manpower and the (for whatever reason) reduction of PTRDs this time the manpower actually decreases, despite the new AAMGs/bigger AT Guns/added Sappers.
    • AAMG (0→18)
      18x DShK were added, +97Manpower to the Division's totals.
    • MMG removed training devices
    • Mortars removed training devices
      50mm: were mostly removed - altough not "officially", so Manpower needs to be accounted for.
      120mm: no mentioning that a full Guards TOE suddenly would lose some. Again, it's in all likelyhood related to using Reduced TOEs!
    • PTRD removed training devices
      As described further down, not 100% clear what this reduction is based on, stays.
    • AT Guns
      AT battalion changes from 12x45mm to 12x76.2mm.
      18xRegimental 45mm AT Guns are replaced by 18x57mm AT Gun.
      Total of AT Guns remains at 48.
    • Sappers (18→24)
      Supposedly all got an additional Company of Sappers in the Sapper Battalion.
    • Recon no changes to before 12 Foot + 3 Horse
    • Rifle/SMG Squads
      using all corrected Squad sizes, see pic.

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messy list full of notes:
  • AAMG
    addition of 18 DShK AAMGs: 06/1944
    +97Men
    Here supposedly both get the DShK AAMG back 18x (supposedly all Truck-Mounted(?)).
    TOE AAMG 1944_RH_2_2517_0202.jpg
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  • 37mm AA (delay to 12/1944)
    The Guards supposedly have gotten an additional 37mm AA (Niehorster gives 6x4=24?!), in game the 37mm Flak only arrives 12/1944 and only lists 12. ...sooo...
  • 50mm Mortar
    removal of [all 50mm Mortars] 06/1944
    7Men per 2 Mortars in TOE, makes 54/2x7Men=189Men reduction
    Many (reduced) TOEs seem to have lost the 50mm Mortars (not 100% clear when exactly, it's stated to be in late 1943). Like here is an example of a Guards unit in 10/1944 still having 54 50mm Mortars "authorized" but 0 in use. Those may need to be accounted for in Manpower if it gets to "exact" manpower figures.
    German intel concludes that from ~May 1944 50mm Mortars were no longer used.
    Then multiple of such reports/orders from early (~February) 1944 exist to no longer use those Mortars. Not found the "official order" from STAVKA/Stalin (if it exists) on that question. So it may all have been an Front/Army Level order + Reduced Strength result (see "Reduced_Baltic Front_RH_2_2517_0029+31.jpg" in the Reduced 08/1943 Post to see the removal of 50mm for reduced TOEs).
    Further there are several reports/conclusive statements on the Mortars/50mm Mortars at the end of the war, most concluding that 50mm does not justify to be used anymore.
    50mm Mortar removal_RH_2_2517_0295+96.jpg
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  • AT Guns
    new AT Battalion 06/1944 see previous Post for the TOE
    [12x45mm Pak+36xPTRD] → [12x76.2mm Pak+36xPTRD]
    [~208Men (sometimes give as as low as 180)] → [251Men, sometimes 243Men]
    so + ~43
    Guards: replacing some 45mm with 57mm AT.
  • SU-76s (delay to 12/1944)
    12? 16? Replacing 76mm AT Guns (or additional)?
  • PTRD
    PTRDs, it is possible that the Battalion's Company of the Guards (with 16) was reduce to 9 (so as the regular TOE). Not 100% sure.
  • MMG
    HMGs, for the Guards Niehorster gives a reduction from 12 per Battalion to 9, not sure about that. In December both supposedly get to 160+ HMGs again...suspicious. The Reduced Strength TOEs state things like the removal of one Platoon of HMGs (CttRA), it's possible this got confused. Also see "Reduced_Baltic Front_RH_2_2517_0029+31.jpg" in the Reduced 08/1943 Post for this change/possible confusion.
  • Sappers
    +1 Sapper Co in the Sapper Battalion in October 1944 (CttRA), but may have been added earlier (NH)?!
  • Squad 43 [9Men, 1LMG]
  • SMG/LMG
    Here the reduction from the 10Men [10SMG] SMG Squad to 9Men [9SMG] seems to have taken place (if at all), at least it is occasionally portrayed like this, altough 100Men per Company remained the same. maybe the Soviets finally decided to get proper "runners" positions set up?! Or those dudes became Snipers? In any event, for game terms leaving them at 10Men (not 11) seems reasonable.
    SMG numbers sometimes "needs" as ~1050 while "have" sometimes like ~1250 for regular Divisions. ...this may also all be related to the many different ways of "reduced" TOEs.

    The 18 LMG per Company get reduced to 12 in some reports/amended TOEs (so removing the second LMG in 50% of the Squads). The issue here lies in the fact that (I think) not rly any full sized official "official" TOE was proposed before December 1944 causing this "officially", in 15.07.1943 there must have been a release of a Regular/Guards RD TOE supposedly related to the increase of SMGs, maybe this also re-defined Squad composition to some extend, otherwise I only know the reduced TOEs from 1943/44 causing it, but that'd be 8k Divisions and many other changes.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BA_%D0%A0%D0%9A%D0%9A%D0%90#1942%E2%80%941944_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0 wrote:"On July 15, 1943, minor changes were followed in the state of the rifle regiment (both guards and ordinary), associated with a decrease in the number of rifles and an increase in submachine guns."
    SMGs, I'll maintain the SMG Squad (+) 9Men with 1LMG+8SMG to have the clearer distinction bewteen SMG Companies and Line Infantry and to have the proper Manpower (10vs9Men). The December TOEs end with 337 LMGs (12LMGx3Cox3Batx3Rgt=324), which matches somewhat perfect with 324 Line Infantry Squads with 1LMG + some used Scout'ish or Training...
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Re: Soviet Rifle Division TOEs

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12/1944
Generally, it seems like those changes never rly took effect in Europe before Berlin fell, CttRA cites as it only being used in the Far East later on. This may have been already accounted for by only doing slight/partial adjutsments to the Regular TOE by the Devs.
Weirdly enuff, this new 05/40-60 series TOE, seems to usually have the terminology "Guards" in its name. So I am not quite sure how it was supposed to be implemented. Since from summer 1945 all differences between Guards and regular Divisions were/seem to be erased this could mean that already from this December TOE the idea was to maintain only one TOE for all.

  • Regular Shtat No. 05/40 of 18.12.1944 nwtele or Soviet Archive 05/41 Regiment (there are more subTOEs available, may list them later on)

    Full TOEs
    05/40-05/60 calculation
    05/40 HQ
    05/41 Regiment
    05/42 Training Battalion
    05/43 Artillery Brigade Staff
    05/44 Cannon Artillery Regiment
    05/45 Howitzer Artillery Regiment
    05/46 Mortar Artillery Regiment
    160mm Mortar evaluation about Mortars
    05/47 AT
    05/48 AA Battalion
    05/49 Liaison/Communication
    05/50 Sapper Battalion
    51
    52
    53
    05/54 Motor Transport/Supply
    05/55 Field Bakery
    05/56 Veterinary
    57
    05/58 Medical Battalion
    05/59 Motor Recon Company
    05/60 Reserve Battalion / Frontline Backup Battalion

    The new regular TOE here has some oddities, like more than 3k SMGs, 1k more men than the old Guards TOE. And many more changes which as mentioned already may have never taken any effect anyways/during the war in Europe.

    1945 Examples, 18.03, 12.04, 19.04 Artillery reports/TOEs, include authorized figures. Looks like not much changed after 06/1944. So no general increase +4x76mm Artillery, but sometimes a 9th Battery, in this example with 122mm was added. German Intel also reports about some Artillery Regiments having one additional (the 9th) Battery getting to 36 Guns in the Artillery Regiment in total. But on the other side you also find a ton of Guards Divisions using Regular TOEs and only having the 20+12 Guns.
    In the following Amendment from late 11/1944 there it still uses 8 batteries as a base, nothing indicating an additional Battery (at least until this point in time).
    1945 Artillery amendment_RH_2_2713_0188.jpg
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    So to sum up, overall no general change towards the proposed December TOE seems to have happened in an timely manner (meaning before the End of war in Europe) from how far I can tell (until now).
    • Manpower
      The strength reports are usually still giving the same Manpower (especially Regimental manpower) which they had for years. Despite removing the 50mm Mortars (this change seems to never been applied "officially" to the old 550 series TOE, so this ~189Men Manpower must be taken into account (and was already in 06/1944 - which Manpower I will use as a base here).

      Totals:
      from 06/1944: 9400Men
      to: 9400-75(Recons)+85(Artillery)+300(SMGSquads)=9707 WIP
    • SMG Squads
      Would get an additional second SMG Company per Regiment (total 27 Squads, 10Men each), bringing it on equal grounds on that with the Guards TOE (CttRA).
    • Artillery
      When adding +4 76mm Guns this would mean using the original TOE from 10/1942 adding: 295-213=+82Men to the Division (see BArch RH 2/2518 pic 188).
    • Recon
      I do not have any info on equipment (if it changed), but several sources cite the reduction by one Platoon (3 Squads) and this change was also part of the new December TOE (which was never applied as mentioned).
      So Foot recons get reduced by 3, Mounted Recon stays at 3xCavalry Squad 43 (using the in game available Squads, which fit well).
    • Sappers
      There are mentionings about an increase in Sappers to 3 Companies in October (CttRA). But the thing is that (according to some sources/interpretations) the Guards already had 3 Companies. So this mentioned increase may only matter for Regular TOEs and it is either now (12/1944) or before (06/1944), when the regular TOE gets +6Squads (actually 9Squads with ~7-8Men). I have already done this in 06/1944 according to NH.

  • Guards nwtele
    In Game it appears this TOE gets a third SMG Company per Regiment (or a new SMG Battalion) with 27 Squads, I did not find evidence so far on that taking place (only the Regular TOE would get +3SMG Companies is mentioned). So this may be an error in current TOEs.
    Further on that issue, suddenly ALL SMG Squads receive a LMG, I suggest using the SMG (+) from the getgo for line infantry SMG Squads and stick to the normal 10Men Squads for the "additional SMG formations".

    Received additional formation SU-76s (16, in game its only 12?). Supposedly this formation was intende to replace the 12x76mm ZiS-3 AT Guns in the AT-Battalion.

    AA here the Guards receives 12x37mm AA.

    Examples:
    12.08.1945
    01.09.1945


    Reduced Guards Support in 04/500 TOEs (early 1945)





05 or 06/1945 (does not exist)

general calculation 10/1945
general calculation October 1945 (04/100series)
  • Regular nwtele
    Supposedly here the Regular Division would also get the SU-76s. But it is unclear if ever properly executed before war ended.

  • Guards
    Both Regular and Guards supposedly were built the same.

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Re: Soviet Rifle Division TOEs

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***************************WIP***************************

Work is ongoing. Will take a while.


Squad changes "Musts":
old: Submachine Gun Squad (+) 11Men [10SMG+1LMG]; Start Date 11/1943
new: Submachine Gun Squad (+) 9Men [8SMG+1LMG]; Start Date 05/1943
DIvisions need 06/1943, Brigades 05/1943, simply start it 01/1943 - doesn't hurt? Will see what comes regarding MotMechTank formations.
See this Thread for more info.
old: Submachine Gun Squad 11Men [11SMG]
new: Submachine Gun Squad 10Men [10SMG]
See this Thread for more info.
old: Rifle Squad 43 11Men [2SMG+1LMG]
new: Rifle Squad 43 9Men [1 or 2SMG+1LMG]
The origin and therefore composition of this Squad is not 100% clear to me since it is related to Reduced Divisional sizes (causing 11Men). Just the 9Men and 1LMG seems "obvious" (altough the official TOE may have also simply kept the 12/1942 Setup - but there may have been "official-inofficial" amendments reduciong LMGs in favor of mroe SMGs (a guess)).
Rifle Squad (-) 11Men; End Date 03/1942
Rifle Squad (-) 11Men; End Date 04/1942
Divisions need 11/1942 End Date and Brigades need 04/1943.
There are several TOEs with either no end date or an end date after the end date of this element using this element.
Additionally this Squad seems best fitting to use as Recon Squad as highlighted in the different TOEs 04/1941-08/1942 in this Thread. Worth only to be changed in 12/1942 to reflect additional SMG availability. Alternatively one coul also let it run until 05/1943 and only replace those recons then.
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