A Corps Issue

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A Corps Issue

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I am attempting to build my first Tank Corps. The manual says that anytime you build a Corps from at least 2 Guards Elements, the newly-created Corps will then be a Guards Corps. This has worked swimmingly for creating Guards Rifle Corps. However, it does NOT seem to work for Tank Corps:
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Does the "At least two elements" apply to Guards Tank Corps creation? Or does it require all 3 elements to be Guards? Or is the only way to get a Guard Tank Corps the old fashioned way, i.e. lots of wins?

I farmed a bunch of Guards Tank Brigades over the winter, hopefully I can use those as other than nice SUs......

Also, two other things I noticed:

1. Manual says you can form Divisions from Brigades in April; IIRC, that is now MAY through an update/revision, is that correct? Because it ain't working in April
2. While I won't do this, I noticed that it's possible to abuse the Corps Limits. If you break down a CAV CORPS for example, you can then create a new CAV CORPS, and re-build the broken down one, thereby spamming past the limits. I won't do that, but that seems like an exploit that should be closed off
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Re: A Corps Issue

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Guards tank corps are not allowed until 12/42.

The corps limit can be an exploit. Building endless guards rifle divisions from airborne brigades is one too. The reality is 2x3 isn't fixing things like this given the game is essentially done.
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Re: A Corps Issue

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Thanks M60!

I noticed the Airborne Bde one; that should probably be a House Rule. Soviet Player should probably just not be allowed to create new Airborne Bde, just use the ones given at-start....seems like a reasonable restriction. It is AP-intensive to do that (basically 6 APs for a Guard Rifle Div) but that is still an exploit

For the Tank Brigades, that probably means I should try to keep many of the Guards Tank Bdes until 12/42, when I can use them to create Guards Tank Corps...and just use the "Regular" Brigades first

What about the Rifle Brigade combining....that doesn't work until May, is that correct? (Not APRIL, as the manual claims)
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Re: A Corps Issue

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Correct, 5/42 to combine brigades.
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Re: A Corps Issue

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That Airbone Brigade exploit should be closed by lowering the build limit to just 2 from 3/42 onwards.
Background:
The 5 Airborne Corps (a 3 Brigades) of 1941 war start plus the additional 5 of autumn 41 were merged into Guards Rifle Division by spring/summer 42.
By Autumn 1942 eight Corps were recreated but those were merged into Guards Airborne Divisions by 12/42 to 1/43.
The 42 action was repeated in 43
In classic WitE the Airborne Bdes were first able to be merged into GRDs by 1942 but this switched to GADs by 1943 thus the Brigades were required for both Div types.
In WitE2 The Airborne Divs are not connected to Brigades anymore thus no extended build limit required for Brigades.
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Re: A Corps Issue

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Denniss wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 12:03 am That Airbone Brigade exploit should be closed by lowering the build limit to just 2 from 3/42 onwards.
Background:
The 5 Airborne Corps (a 3 Brigades) of 1941 war start plus the additional 5 of autumn 41 were merged into Guards Rifle Division by spring/summer 42.
By Autumn 1942 eight Corps were recreated but those were merged into Guards Airborne Divisions by 12/42 to 1/43.
The 42 action was repeated in 43
In classic WitE the Airborne Bdes were first able to be merged into GRDs by 1942 but this switched to GADs by 1943 thus the Brigades were required for both Div types.
In WitE2 The Airborne Divs are not connected to Brigades anymore thus no extended build limit required for them.
but is it closed?
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Re: A Corps Issue

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It is NOT closed, but setting the build limit to 2 would do so. In April '42, the Build Limit is still 36, which means one could spam lots of Airborne if you were inclined to
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Re: A Corps Issue

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Ya, been in since the beginning and was brought up on more than a few occasions :-(
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