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kanliot2
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Diplomacy musings

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"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given. Merry Christmas!"

I was save scumming diplomacy.
I wanted to know if "free" trade agreements require higher bonus diplomacy levels. After all, some governments really have a negative diplomacy. (First) turns out, it tested out that money gifts get the same benefit from a -10% diplomacy empire as from a higher one.

Thinking on this a bit, I have a general theory of diplomacy. All the modifiers to diplomacy stacked on the contact screen do not change across less diplomatic players. What does change is the race vs. race debuffs, which is the "least liked races". So a general theory of diplomacy is that if I have a 40% diplomacy, then the diplomacy percent is just a bias on the racial debuff. Which makes diplomacy more important for disliked races. I like it.

Also, if you want an whatever trade agreement, you can just send the exact amount needed through the "discuss a deal". As long as you are not in deficit, you can send any amount. ... testing... (500k yields 19.8 for an empire with 700k population). This seems to be logarithmic function approaching +20 relations.
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