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Capturing Factories?

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Can we capture factories and shipyards?

Can you then use those factories to produce your a/c or equip?

Can you force the Japanese army use navy a/c to simplify a/c production types?

Some of the threads I found on the subject dissolved into dicussions about everything but the topic. A little worried about the amount of Japanese replacment pilots and their exp, but will work with what I am given.
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Hi, Yes the Japanese capture a shipyard at Hong Kong. They can capture (or lose) factories (heavy industry) in China among other places.

Sorry about the army navy thing but they have their own aircraft programs.
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Thanks for the fast reply,

So if I understand you the japanese can only capture shipyards, hvy ind and not a/c factories. Bummer on the army a/c. So taking Seattle for the Boeing plant would not help any huh. Drat
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Post by pad152 »

No aircraft factories in China???

The Ki.27 production was transfered to Manchuria in 1940 at the Manchurian Aeroplane Manufacturing Co Ltd at Harbin. If fact most of the Ki.27's where made in China/Manchuria. I wonder what the factory was building before 1940??
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pad152 wrote:No aircraft factories in China???

The Ki.27 production was transfered to Manchuria in 1940 at the Manchurian Aeroplane Manufacturing Co Ltd at Harbin. If fact most of the Ki.27's where made in China/Manchuria. I wonder what the factory was building before 1940??
As Manchuria had been "Japanese" since 1931, I'd venture to guess that the
factory building Ki.27's was built there as an Aircraft Factory by Nakajima.
Manchuria was the source of much of Japans industrial resources during the
thirties, so putting a plant there saves shipping. This is just reasoned con-
jecture.
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2ndACR wrote:Thanks for the fast reply,

So if I understand you the japanese can only capture shipyards, hvy ind and not a/c factories. Bummer on the army a/c. So taking Seattle for the Boeing plant would not help any huh. Drat
Hi, Oh I suppose if you were able to haul 200k troops to Seattle you could maybe capture the place. But then who would run the factory and where would the material come from? Best bet would be to dismantle it and set it up again next to the Ki-27 factory in Manchuria. (Pad152: I'll see about getting that factory moved or one placed where it belongs) The plant should be ready to open by 1965. (limited production)
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Can the Allied player transfer all the execs from Brewster aircraft to Japan by sneaking them in on a rubber raft in an effort to retard a/c production?
Show me a fellow who rejects statistical analysis a priori and I'll show you a fellow who has no knowledge of statistics.

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Can the Allied player transfer all the execs from Brewster aircraft to Japan by sneaking them in on a rubber raft in an effort to retard a/c production?
Wouldn't getting rid of the deadwood oops execs improve production? :D
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Improve production in the US, retard production in Japan (at least until the Japanese figure out that the mgt team is incompetant). ;)
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mdiehl wrote:Improve production in the US, retard production in Japan (at least until the Japanese figure out that the mgt team is incompetant). ;)
Actually, the Brewster Executives might be some help to the Japanese Side.
Being on the low end of productivity in the US often still put you quite a bit
ahead of the rest of the world. Remember, Henry Ford considered Consolidated
Aircraft's Production Standards to be "sub par". Americans INVENTED Mass
Production, and were worlds ahead of almost everyone else.
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mdiehl wrote:Can the Allied player transfer all the execs from Brewster aircraft to Japan by sneaking them in on a rubber raft in an effort to retard a/c production?
I believe that this is prohibited by the Geneva Convention, Article 14 Subversive and Perverse actions. :D "Buff-a-toads" forever.
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"So if I understand you the japanese can only capture shipyards, hvy ind and not a/c factories. Bummer on the army a/c. So taking Seattle for the Boeing plant would not help any huh. Drat"

You could bomb it in the game if it makes you feel better. :)
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Mike Scholl wrote:Actually, the Brewster Executives might be some help to the Japanese Side.
Being on the low end of productivity in the US often still put you quite a bit
ahead of the rest of the world. Remember, Henry Ford considered Consolidated
Aircraft's Production Standards to be "sub par". Americans INVENTED Mass
Production, and were worlds ahead of almost everyone else.
Don't forget Brewster's QC problems - these were the guys who managed to build Corsairs so badly out of spec that they flew like Buffalos.

Although, considering the state the Japanese aircraft industry was in by 1944 or so...
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