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[nekrosis]

This game must be so bad... I went to EB and I saw the game on the shelv.

The price dropped from CAD$39.99 to 9.99

lol, guess too many people got ticked off from all these insane solutions to equaly insane problems

[rosary]

You're wrong about that. TOS had some great reviews. I don't consider 79% in PC Gamer a bad number and I've seen them hand out many extremely low reviews to other computer games. Sales returns were less than 1% according to figures so its safe to say that 99% of those who bought it kept it.

[Gukal]

Lol this whole thread is hilarious. After playing a MMORPG for a couple years (Everquest), this game is a bug-free paradise.

I can't begin to recall all the system conflicts and other inexplicable errors I've endured over the years with various titles from various companies. Here my worst issue has been the occasional drop of an opponant in multi-player - requiring that we restart a saved game.

[william19k]

I have to agree with Gukal, ToS : WS is one of the few games I have kept on my computer since I bought it and I am still playing it. The lack of bugs and crashes are awsome compaired to allmost any other PC game I have played lately.

I get the feeling that Nekrosis is one of those Warcraft/Starcraft/ Command and Conquer players that can't enjoy a game unless it is real time strategy or first person shooter.

Or perhaps he is just mad that he cant figure out the time based turn sequence.

anyhow, great game. I'll shut up now and stop feeding the troll

[Thorgrim]

I don't think he even has the game. He's prolly just fishing for attention. Or he is just a frustrated pseudo-coder. [:D]

[Sleeping_Dragon]

ORIGINAL: nekrosis
lol, guess too many people got ticked off from all these insane solutions to equaly insane problems

Please put down your crack pipe.
If you don't like the game that's fine, but there nothing wrong with the code, so please stop blowing smoke out of you're ass.

[Xcorps]

ORIGINAL: nekrosis

This game must be so bad... I went to EB and I saw the game on the shelv.

The price dropped from CAD$39.99 to 9.99

lol, guess too many people got ticked off from all these insane solutions to equaly insane problems

Hunchback vs Troll....Hunchback wins.
AC20 to the head.

[Shadow Paladin]

It's not bad, it'sjust harder than your average RTS game. In RTS games being able to field more units than your enemy and click your mouse at great speed gives you victory, usually, unlike this game where you have to plan your actions or face certain doom.

If you can actually count above 20 without using your fingers and toes give it a go, if not go spam the command and conquer site or something [;)]

$9.99 Candian, £9.99 over here in GAME. What a bargain [:D]

[White Tiger]

ORIGINAL: nekrosis

This game must be so bad... I went to EB and I saw the game on the shelv.

The price dropped from CAD$39.99 to 9.99

lol, guess too many people got ticked off from all these insane solutions to equaly insane problems

Actually, I think he has a point. Yes, the price dropped, but when did the game come out? Most all games drop in price eventually. And I also notice that EB just lowered the price on LOTS of their games.

As for the insaine solutions, Yes also. I think it is a little out of the ordinary to request that a user demand they adjust their hardware to work with the copy protection. This is just a pain in the butt, and they should remove such cr*p because poor copy protection will only cause more problems than it helps.


Gotta go, boss looking over shoulder...

[Coyote27]

eh, if you can read the data you can copy it

[jermwz]

I have found ToS:WS to be a difficult game with a pretty step learning curve...but that's why I keep playing. Nekrosis, I think you should stick to brainless shooters instead of playing a truely unique game that challenges your intellect too much. And you'll pay a lot more than ten bucks for 20-hour game with little or no replay value.

ToS:WS - best game ever.

[Phreddo]

I'm finally understanding this game, and for the $7 I spent, it was totally worth it.

However, it would be remiss to suggest that this is an easy game to learn.

Yeah, yeah, it's all deep and wonderful and better than the brainless games, and we can all scoff at people who complain about the complexity. Kinda reminds me of Linux users. Anyhow, it's one thing to make a game challenging, but the game should have challenging gameplay, not a challenging interface.

So, sure, people gripe for the sake of griping. but that doesn't mean that this game is entirely intuitive.

[LarkinVB]

ORIGINAL: Phreddo

So, sure, people gripe for the sake of griping. but that doesn't mean that this game is entirely intuitive.

Nor is chess. It has a steep learning curve too [;)]

[jermwz]

You're right, it's not easy to learn. I played the freeware version for a while and then purchased the retail game. I still don't have 100% grasp on the game. However, every time I play, I learn. I pick up new strategies, figure out better ways to develop my jocks, learn about the effects of tweaking weapons and armor, etc. To me, the replay value of this game is incredible.

I imagine that a future release of the game could incorporate some interface improvements but I'm happy with the game as it is (now that I understand it). I guess I would be afraid of getting caught up in adding flashy bells and whistles, to the detriment of the most innovative strategy game I've ever played. I've never been a hardcore strategy gamer but this game hooked me the first time I played it. For me, that made learning to play fun rather than frustrating.

...and don't get me wrong, sometimes I like brainless shooters too.

[Phreddo]

I'm not talking about strategies or whatnot.
I'm just talking about getting past the interface and learning the basic rules.
chess is simple enough to pick up.

[Kovax]

Having just bought the game for $9.95, and being squarely in the middle of that steep learning curve, I can say that so far the game looks to be worth the original $39.95 pricetag, but the documentation and manual are more in the $1.99 category.

In any future releases or expansions, it would be a huge help to have both the Attack and Move menus for the current Titan visible at all times, and the currently active command highlighted.

I discovered, to my unhappy surprise, that if you set the battle conditions for 2 3 of your rookie jocks in 40t recon Titans vs an even size random AI force of the lowest skill level, it can still pick a 120t unit which will eat your recons before they can even get close enough to shoot back. Quad AC12s versus a bunch of medium or small lasers and MGs makes for a serious mismatch. I had one Titan lose the arm with its primary weapons on the opening volley, and another one with its LOT disabled the following turn. At least I got a few MG hits on it before it trashed my third one. Time to restart with a new squad.

[LarkinVB]

... and time to install the patch v1.2

[0dragon]

This is the best price ive seen for a new game inc shipping and handle for me here in canada its 15 dollars!!!!cant beat that can you?[&o]Dont knock what you dont know[:-]

[Coyote27]

If the weight's equal you should have a similar chance no matter how it's distributed. Terrain and tactics will make a lot of difference in this respect - a heavy with GM heatseeker racks will have an advantage over CC recons in wide-open terrain, but not so in the woods and hills. Design is important too. Some recons are fundamentally not good at engaging larger titans - small lasers won't do much, however vibra claws, emp's, and flamethrowers will. Some heavies and assaults are fundamentally not good at engaging recons and lights, LRM or GME designs for instance. The Lich is quite good against little titans though.

Back to the original topic - never assume the price of a game reflects its quality. It mainly reflects the pedigree of the publisher, which means nothing.

[majama]

Price is still quite high (almost 30 euros with post deliver), ok i will wait for better chance and maybe in future buy original version. TOS is one of all time playable, i know it from many years, begining on freeware versions somewhere in the past.

One thing that is not the best is most often simple computer players mainly tactic "all together go ahead and lay mass fire on closest enemy"