Mac OS X

[IanAM]

A question:

Is there ever going to be a possibilty of Matrix releasing games in Mac OS X format?

I know that is probably better asked of games' developers rather than publishers, but would be interested in hearing the Matrix position on Mac support.

I am a big fan of Matrix games - I own EYSA, Massive Assault, Korsun and HTTR - and would like, at some point to be able to play similar games on my Mac rather than PC...

[John David]

I'd like to see it to Ian.

Hopefully as the Mac continues to build on it's ever increasing market share, small as it may be now, more games will be made available!

The new G5 with Panther under the hood is simply awesome![&o][&o]

JD

[IanAM]

Anyone from Matrix got an interest in Macs then?

[Balls2004]

I would also like to see some mac compatibility.

[Fred98]

ORIGINAL: John David

The new G5 with Panther under the hood is simply awesome![&o][&o]

No its not.

If I am using a spread sheet or a word processor, its exactly the same as Windows.

There is no difference.

[YohanTM2]

I'm not sure how it impacts gaming but the OS.X is a #$%#$% pain in the ass to build an image for.

may it DIE IN PEACE

[Pippin]

If they port some good games over to the MAC, I do hope they take a one button mouse into consideration when designing the GUI.

[John David]

ORIGINAL: Joe 98

ORIGINAL: John David

The new G5 with Panther under the hood is simply awesome![&o][&o]

No its not.

If I am using a spread sheet or a word processor, its exactly the same as Windows.

There is no difference.

Let's not turn this into a typical Mac Vs Windows flame war OK!

I have both platforms, but I am a multi media developer and for graphics, video editing and other like tasks, no Windows machine can even come close to a Mac, especially the new Dual G5's Period! Everyone in the graphics , video and audio fields know's this. End of discussion!!

JD

[John David]

ORIGINAL: Pippin

If they port some good games over to the MAC, I do hope they take a one button mouse into consideration when designing the GUI.

Most mass market games are now avilable for the Mac. Look it up and see!

Oh BTW, I use a 2 button mouse on my Mac! Oh yeah, I also use a fly wheel for audio and video editing. Oh right... almost forgot, I use a Graphics tablet when I use Photoshop or Illustrator![:'(]

Oh, and to the rest of you who are going to try to come up with some smart ass remark or more opinions on the Mac, don't bother because I won't be returning to this thread. I've seen it and seen it! Both platforms have their strengths and weakneses, that's why it's good to have a CHOICE!.

This Mac bashing is typical and I don't come to the Matrix forum for this crap. Out!!

JD

[Fred98]

I did not come to bash Macs

I have asked Mac users 100 times to actually explain the differences - because if its better I am interested.

No Mac user has ever responded.

Even the staff in a Mac shop can't tell me.

[benpark]

I am a G5 Mac user for work (Photoshop & some video). My PC is for games only. I would love to have more wargames for Mac-my screen is vastly bigger than my PC's+my Mac is waaay faster.

Here is a game to try for Mac wargamers (it's free)-

http://sourceforge.net/projects/joyofhex/

It's as close as you can get on native OSX to Talonsoft's Operational Art of War. It has a good scenario editor, but no historical scenarios. I'm working on some, though...

[John David]

ORIGINAL: Joe 98

I did not come to bash Macs

I have asked Mac users 100 times to actually explain the differences - because if its better I am interested.

No Mac user has ever responded.

Even the staff in a Mac shop can't tell me.

I'm responding to this because Joe98 asked a legitimate question.

I told you what the Mac was best at. If you haven't used the Mac and a Windows machine to try to do the same things in regards to the areas I described in my previous post, then you wouldn't know or understand the difference. If your so curious, why don't you try for yourself. Don't ask other people to do the work for you and explain something that has to be experienced for yourself.

However, I don't want to fall under the category of your so called 100 Mac users who never can explain things to you so... here is an example!

Go ahead and try to import raw video, either digital or analog, then convert it through a bridge, then use an editor to edit the video,(and don't give me Adobe Premiere or Vegas Video or any other video editing software available on a Windows platform because none of them including Avid, can touch Apple's Final Cut Pro), then use any Windows software to create the DVD shell, menus etc..., to create the DVD, then use something to convert the video to MPEG 2 for DVD creation. Oh, you can't, not at all as well as with Apple's DVD Studio Pro 2 and QuickTime compression.

Oh and never mind what I say if you want, why don't you check to see for yourself what 95% of Pro Film & Television people in the business use. Check to see on remote locations for a shoot what laptop is being used and what software. Here's a clue, you'll see a big white Apple logo almost everywhere you look. Go into most recording studios and see what they are using, yep there's that darn Apple logo again!

Oh yeah, I'm not even going to go into the stability issue of the two OS, OS X and Windows, since it is no contest. Remember or FYI, OS X guts are Unix based...nuff said! One trully multi tasks, the other....please, I'll let you guess which is which!

Does that qualify to you as an answer from a Mac person as a response to your query!



As I said before, I like both platforms as they both serve a purpose, Just don't try to tell me and others that there is no difference.

One last thing for you, you mentioned that when running a spread sheet or word processor that there was no difference. Your not going to like this but... even Bill Gates himself, along with many other software consultants stated that Microsoft Office runs better on OS X then it does on Windows. This is not my opinion but fact, look it up!

Oh,BTW, the staff in the Mac shop that you refer to are incompetent if they couldn't tell you the above things I mentioned, so I would look for another place to do your research!

JD

[John David]

ORIGINAL: benpark

I am a G5 Mac user for work (Photoshop & some video). My PC is for games only. I would love to have more wargames for Mac-my screen is vastly bigger than my PC's+my Mac is waaay faster.

Here is a game to try for Mac wargamers (it's free)-

http://sourceforge.net/projects/joyofhex/

It's as close as you can get on native OSX to Talonsoft's Operational Art of War. It has a good scenario editor, but no historical scenarios. I'm working on some, though...

Thanks for the heads up on this benpark. I'll check it out!

JD

JD

[Marc von Martial]

The only problem I have with a Mac is that they´re overprized and that Adobe doesn´t offer crossplattform licensing anymore. As much as I would like to switch for artwork, web and media production, it´s simply not affordable.

[John David]

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

The only problem I have with a Mac is that they´re overprized and that Adobe doesn´t offer crossplattform licensing anymore. As much as I would like to switch for artwork, web and media production, it´s simply not affordable.

The same problem with Adobe or Macromedia or any other software as far as crossplatform issues would apply to a Mac user wanting to get the Windows version. That has nothing to do with Apple or Microsoft.

As far as Mac's being more expensive, yes they are, but you get what you pay for. One of the best benefits of owning a Mac is that the hardware and OS are all made by the same company. Also, show me anything on the PC side that is even in the same galaxy as the iLife bundle (iPhoto,iTunes,iMovie & iDVD), and iLife comes with the OS!! You can't, because Windows has nothing like it.

I can't tell you how sick I am of all the different problems people have had with the unending hardware choices, driver issues and configurations with a PC. I know because I help my friends and family all the time. However, with my Mac friends, we only talk about how we get things done and the differences that the individual choices we make, or advice on how to do something using a piece of software.

Again, I own and love my PC. It rocks for gaming and surfing the net, and I do use some other work related software on it. So I am not a PC basher by any stretch.

My comments were in direct result of the continuing ignorance by allot of PC users about the Mac. This has been going on for years. This thread started with a legitimate inquiry of future Matrix games available on the Mac platform, which I agreed upon, only to have somone who isn't even a Mac user, come in and state the usual ignorance shown towards the Mac.

Yes the price of a Mac is more, but the prices have dropped considerably with the intro of the G5 line, but as I said before, and it is true with everything in our consumer world, you get what you pay for!

JD

[IanAM]

Thanks for the mention of Joy of Hex benpark...I'll take a look.

And see http://www.macwargames.com/ for some Napoleonic and ACW Mac wargames.

And War! Age of Imperialism, recently reviewed by Wargamer

http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/war_age_of_imperialism/

is available for Mac.

And, dare I mention I've got HOI for Mac.

And Combat Mission is available for Mac, but not, I'm afraid OSX.

But none of this means I can play my favourite Matrix games

Surely what it does mean though is that it can be financially viable to produce Mac wargames. Which is why I started the thread - to find out if there was any possibilty of Matrix going down that route...not to start a Mac v. PC debate.

But, just to join in, I work with PCs, have always had a PC at home which is used for gaming a lot, but have just upgraded from a PC notebook to a Mac Powerbook - and I find the Powerbook a joy to use! And I don't think it's that overpriced - to get a similarly specced and styled PC notebook - say the Sony Vaio - I would have spent a similar amount.

[John David]

ORIGINAL: IanAM

Surely what it does mean though is that it can be financially viable to produce Mac wargames. Which is why I started the thread - to find out if there was any possibilty of Matrix going down that route...not to start a Mac v. PC debate.

I agree, but sadly, this seems to happen all the time, no matter where or what the subject is about. I just want to get the facts straight.

JD

[IanAM]

ORIGINAL: John David

I just want to get the facts straight.

Fair enough...and you're doing a good job

[John David]

Thanks Ian.

You don't suppose Steve Jobs has any Apple stock options waiting for me do ya![;)][8D]

JD

[Marc von Martial]

ORIGINAL: John David

ORIGINAL: Marc Schwanebeck

The only problem I have with a Mac is that they´re overprized and that Adobe doesn´t offer crossplattform licensing anymore. As much as I would like to switch for artwork, web and media production, it´s simply not affordable.

The same problem with Adobe or Macromedia or any other software as far as crossplatform issues would apply to a Mac user wanting to get the Windows version. That has nothing to do with Apple or Microsoft.

Sure it´s not an Apple problem [;)], but it´s still a problem if you want to switch, sadly.

I guess I´ll buy a powerbook someday, for all the video stuff.

BTW, I have a Mac, a SE 30, with Freehand. Marvellous what desktop publishing has been like back then [:D]

The second Mac in the family is my girlfriends iMac and a VERY old powerbook (don´t know which one.