An anxious buyers question
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An anxious buyers question
Hello all, Im awaiting my copy of HTTR, its in the mail atm. I had a question about the gameplay. Specifically what position(s) can you command as. In other words, Can you only be the commander of large size units i.e. Corps, Armies. Or can you chose to be a specific Divisions commander for the length of the campaign. Could I for instance command only the 82nd Airborne Div. while maybe seeing other allied units (of other divisions) doing their own thing. Or is the player forced to control all units available to that side in a map. I dont suppose you could choose to command only a regiment could you?
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Another question.. What is the slowest speed you can play HTTR at? Is it possible to play it in absolute Real time so as to have a 4 day battle literally go on for for real days?
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Multiple speed setting from very slow to very quick (assuming your machine can handle very quick).
You command anywhere you feel like it, from an individual unit, to each level of command upwards.
Effectively think like the military. Each unit attaches upwards to a parent command. Each parent command attaches up to it's parent command and so on up to the top command (30 Corps, etc).
You are free to sever that command at any level to do what you want, including reassigning units to other commands.
It is seemless and easy to manage, but there are some real penalties imposed by command limits and order delays. The more units you detach, the more you load up the command net which increases delays in orders being communicated and actions being taken. You can also overload a command by attaching too many units to it, again increasing delays.
Basically put, it is too real to be good for your health. [:D]
You command anywhere you feel like it, from an individual unit, to each level of command upwards.
Effectively think like the military. Each unit attaches upwards to a parent command. Each parent command attaches up to it's parent command and so on up to the top command (30 Corps, etc).
You are free to sever that command at any level to do what you want, including reassigning units to other commands.
It is seemless and easy to manage, but there are some real penalties imposed by command limits and order delays. The more units you detach, the more you load up the command net which increases delays in orders being communicated and actions being taken. You can also overload a command by attaching too many units to it, again increasing delays.
Basically put, it is too real to be good for your health. [:D]
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Mr.Frag are you telling me that I can command any battalion I wish and only be responsible for that battalions subsequent units.... Ill get my orders from the AI at the Regiment level.... and it gets its orders from the Division level AI and so on?
If so I think this might be everything Ive ever dreamed of in a wargame. Could I command only a company?
If so I think this might be everything Ive ever dreamed of in a wargame. Could I command only a company?
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Some answers:
The AI besides functioning as your opponent will function as your subordinate officers on the map. Thus, you minimally are required to give orders to the ranking commander on the map. However, you may, in fact, give orders to every officer commanding a unit on the map. Of course, that would eliminate the entire chain of command. Typically, you will give orders at various levels in the chain of the command and the AI will handle any levels which fall below your orders.
I think the highest level of command represented is the corp or division and the lowest level of command is platoons for support units like mortars and ATGs; otherwise it is companies for the infantry.
There are three speeds settings and pause. The ratio for the passage of time is not absolute, but insteads depend on the scenario complexity and your processing power. I suppose if you could find yourself an old 80386/16 and load Windows 98SE on it, then you might be able to play really s l o o o o w, but then you would not enjoy it.
The AI besides functioning as your opponent will function as your subordinate officers on the map. Thus, you minimally are required to give orders to the ranking commander on the map. However, you may, in fact, give orders to every officer commanding a unit on the map. Of course, that would eliminate the entire chain of command. Typically, you will give orders at various levels in the chain of the command and the AI will handle any levels which fall below your orders.
I think the highest level of command represented is the corp or division and the lowest level of command is platoons for support units like mortars and ATGs; otherwise it is companies for the infantry.
There are three speeds settings and pause. The ratio for the passage of time is not absolute, but insteads depend on the scenario complexity and your processing power. I suppose if you could find yourself an old 80386/16 and load Windows 98SE on it, then you might be able to play really s l o o o o w, but then you would not enjoy it.
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By the way, I think if you read my sticky thread above: "HTTR (mini-guide): Tutorial, AAR, tips!", you should be able to get a good idea how the game is played prior to receiving it.
I hope that helps.
I hope that helps.
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RE: An anxious buyers question
Hello stall84,
Welcome to this great game and to the forum [:)]
Not really. Always remember that you act as the highest Commanding Officer in the field, so you can basically command any formation you want in a scenario.
First of all, no units on the map will move before you give specific orders. But you can choose from which point in the command chain you want to give orders and that is important since from the point in the command chain downwards, it will be the AI that will execute according to your order.
Let's suppose for example you start a scenario as the Germans, and your force is comprised of the 9th SS Hohenstaufen division, plus various Wehrmacht and Fallschirmjaeger units. The highest commanding unit in the scenario is the 9th SS HQ, so if you give an order to this HQ to capture this or that objective, the AI will mobilize all appropriate and necessary forces under the 9th SS to perform and execute your orders.
Let's now suppose that operations have started, the AI has prepared a plan according to your orders, and you now want to address some specific hot spot on the front line. So you take direct command of one of the regiments of the 9th SS by giving it a direct order. This means this regiment is effectively detached from the 9th SS HQ to now be on your personal command, while the 9th SS still remains under your command - the 9th SS AI still decide on how to use its other subordinate forces in order to execute the order you gave to it in the first place. When you are finished with the 9th SS regiment, you can reattach it back to the 9th SS, which will then give it new orders. When a formation and all its subordinates is completed with one of your orders, you need to give another one or it will simply dig in and defend where it currently stands.
So basically, you can intervene anywhere in the chain of command to personally direct operations of this or that unit or formation. The lowest level you can command personally are companies, but most players will tell you that they usually stop at the battalion level, since commanding all companies in a scenario would be far too much micromanagement.
Now, as for the campaign question, well there is no "campaign" mode in HTTR where you would control everything that happened on one side during Market Garden. There are instead 3 separate campaigns, one centering around Eindhoven, another one around Nijmegen, and the final one around Arnhem. Along that you have dozens of other scenarios (there must be at least 30 different scenarios) covering various aspects of Market-Garden, as well as what-if situations.
And indeed, as MarkShot is saying, go see that HTTR Tutorial thread, and you will get a very good idea on how the game is played.
Welcome to this great game and to the forum [:)]
Mr.Frag are you telling me that I can command any battalion I wish and only be responsible for that battalions subsequent units.... Ill get my orders from the AI at the Regiment level.... and it gets its orders from the Division level AI and so on?
If so I think this might be everything Ive ever dreamed of in a wargame. Could I command only a company?
Not really. Always remember that you act as the highest Commanding Officer in the field, so you can basically command any formation you want in a scenario.
First of all, no units on the map will move before you give specific orders. But you can choose from which point in the command chain you want to give orders and that is important since from the point in the command chain downwards, it will be the AI that will execute according to your order.
Let's suppose for example you start a scenario as the Germans, and your force is comprised of the 9th SS Hohenstaufen division, plus various Wehrmacht and Fallschirmjaeger units. The highest commanding unit in the scenario is the 9th SS HQ, so if you give an order to this HQ to capture this or that objective, the AI will mobilize all appropriate and necessary forces under the 9th SS to perform and execute your orders.
Let's now suppose that operations have started, the AI has prepared a plan according to your orders, and you now want to address some specific hot spot on the front line. So you take direct command of one of the regiments of the 9th SS by giving it a direct order. This means this regiment is effectively detached from the 9th SS HQ to now be on your personal command, while the 9th SS still remains under your command - the 9th SS AI still decide on how to use its other subordinate forces in order to execute the order you gave to it in the first place. When you are finished with the 9th SS regiment, you can reattach it back to the 9th SS, which will then give it new orders. When a formation and all its subordinates is completed with one of your orders, you need to give another one or it will simply dig in and defend where it currently stands.
So basically, you can intervene anywhere in the chain of command to personally direct operations of this or that unit or formation. The lowest level you can command personally are companies, but most players will tell you that they usually stop at the battalion level, since commanding all companies in a scenario would be far too much micromanagement.
Now, as for the campaign question, well there is no "campaign" mode in HTTR where you would control everything that happened on one side during Market Garden. There are instead 3 separate campaigns, one centering around Eindhoven, another one around Nijmegen, and the final one around Arnhem. Along that you have dozens of other scenarios (there must be at least 30 different scenarios) covering various aspects of Market-Garden, as well as what-if situations.
And indeed, as MarkShot is saying, go see that HTTR Tutorial thread, and you will get a very good idea on how the game is played.
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RE: An anxious buyers question
You'll be in command of the 82nd airborne, but also of the XXX Corps helping the way through nijmegen. You can't control one without the other, only both at the same time. Also, (though i think it's pretty high in the "wish list") there is no exit point for say XXX Corps troops to exit the map with minimal casualties a la TacOps.
But i don't know with the addition of teamplay, in the 3rd or 4th game of the serie, if there will be the addition of a friendly AI independent from you and who have there own goals, but i don't see that. It would be much too difficult to coordinate it all without communication.
But i don't know with the addition of teamplay, in the 3rd or 4th game of the serie, if there will be the addition of a friendly AI independent from you and who have there own goals, but i don't see that. It would be much too difficult to coordinate it all without communication.
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ORIGINAL: stall84
Hello all, Im awaiting my copy of HTTR, its in the mail atm. I had a question about the gameplay. Specifically what position(s) can you command as. In other words, Can you only be the commander of large size units i.e. Corps, Armies. Or can you chose to be a specific Divisions commander for the length of the campaign. Could I for instance command only the 82nd Airborne Div. while maybe seeing other allied units (of other divisions) doing their own thing. Or is the player forced to control all units available to that side in a map. I dont suppose you could choose to command only a regiment could you?
The short answer to your last question is no. In all scenarios you are the Side commander. There is no way at present of commanding a subForce and letting the AI command everything alse. However, as others have mentioned, you can simply give very broad instructions to the "on-map boss" ( the senior force on the map ) - eg the Corps HQ - and choose to focus therafter on just one Brigade.
In the future we will be developing a Team Play feature which give you the ability you're looking for. But that is a way off just yet. [:)]
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Thanks all! The first posts were very helpful, but didnt answer my question exactly... Eventually you guys realized what I was asking and cleared it up perfectly. Ill be waiting for this new "team play" feature. All in all it doesnt really matter that this option isnt in-game yet, it will still be awesome to play.